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I've got a better idea than destroying the existing bas relief in Stone Mountain (Original Post) MohRokTah Jul 2015 OP
I'd love to see the carving on the right. Ilsa Jul 2015 #1
That's Sherman MohRokTah Jul 2015 #2
Oops, my bad. Old white warhorses all look the Ilsa Jul 2015 #3
That is some serious fucked up shit Telcontar Jul 2015 #10
Too soon? morningfog Jul 2015 #12
Nice! jen63 Jul 2015 #14
LOL!!!! Glassunion Jul 2015 #18
Too bad the General didn't extend the same courtesy to Native Americans... Marengo Jul 2015 #19
He showed the same courtesy to Native Americans. Igel Jul 2015 #21
Sherman did some seriously bad things. Igel Jul 2015 #20
You'd just have to buy it out from under the current owner linuxman Jul 2015 #4
The state of Georgia owns the property. MohRokTah Jul 2015 #5
Huh, no kidding. linuxman Jul 2015 #6
It was until 1958. eom MohRokTah Jul 2015 #7
I have a better idea Glitterati Jul 2015 #8
It's not possible to admire a piece of artwork while disagreeing with the artist's sentiments? Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #13
No need to shove it in the face of those who wish NOT to see it either Glitterati Jul 2015 #23
I like it REP Jul 2015 #9
William Tecumseh Sherman, maybe the only name Adenoid_Hynkel Jul 2015 #11
It's worth pointing out that Sherman was no abolitionist. Music Man Jul 2015 #15
He DID crush the Confederates REP Jul 2015 #16
I say just put a white flag in.... Bonhomme Richard Jul 2015 #17
And he was a half-hearted abolitionist. Igel Jul 2015 #22

Ilsa

(61,710 posts)
1. I'd love to see the carving on the right.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:56 PM
Jul 2015

And if we have to balance it with Grant, then let it be done!

Ilsa

(61,710 posts)
3. Oops, my bad. Old white warhorses all look the
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:03 PM
Jul 2015

Same to me, especially when they look like alcoholics.

 

Telcontar

(660 posts)
10. That is some serious fucked up shit
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 12:24 AM
Jul 2015

Sherman suffered massive PTSD saving this nation. Show some respect

 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
19. Too bad the General didn't extend the same courtesy to Native Americans...
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 07:40 AM
Jul 2015

A few quotes:

"we are not going to let a few thieving, ragged Indians check and stop the progress of [the railroads]."

"we must act with vindictive earnestness against the Sioux, even to their extermination, men, women and children."

"during an assault, the soldiers can not pause to distinguish between male and female, or even discriminate as to age."

Igel

(35,387 posts)
21. He showed the same courtesy to Native Americans.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 10:04 AM
Jul 2015

It's just that people get bent out of shape when the actions were against Native Americans. On a larger scale, against the South, it's viewed as justified.

In this case, there was equality of treatment and opportunity.

Igel

(35,387 posts)
20. Sherman did some seriously bad things.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 10:02 AM
Jul 2015

The whole "let's punish the civilian population as much as possible to demoralize them" thing.

Passing a farm and need food? Great. Take what you can carry. Then destroy the food that's stored, destroy the fields, kill the animals, destroy the housing, and destroy the equipment. Scorched earth policy--for the advancing troops. It left them with territories that really were set up to having starving populations.

It was a different time, but unless we want to be proud of intentional cruelty to the families of those fighting, let's not go there. (Otherwise the proper thing to do in, oh, Gaza is to intentionally target apts because they have civilians in them; in Afghanistan, raids should have been made on villages in Taliban-controlled territory for the purpose of destroying them, their animals, and their food crops. Only those really into hate and ill-will believed this was the case.)

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
5. The state of Georgia owns the property.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:07 PM
Jul 2015

It's managed by a private company, but the state owns it.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
8. I have a better idea
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:33 PM
Jul 2015

Enclose it in a building and charge the racists a fee to go admire it.

Hide it from the rest of us and make it available only to the racists who want to PAY for it. Then, nobody but the racists have to see it, deal with it and support it.

Besides, if we put out a guest book, we can get a list of the racists in their own hand.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
13. It's not possible to admire a piece of artwork while disagreeing with the artist's sentiments?
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 12:29 AM
Jul 2015

Anyone who might want to see "The Last Supper", for example, must be a Christian?

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
23. No need to shove it in the face of those who wish NOT to see it either
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 12:02 PM
Jul 2015

For some people, even YOUR definition of "art" is offensive.

You have no right to force ME to deal with it.

You do realize that the immediate community around this abomination of a "mountain" are 97% African Americans, right?

So they are forced to observe this "art" every day.

In. Their. Face.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
11. William Tecumseh Sherman, maybe the only name
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 12:27 AM
Jul 2015

that makes racist rednecks cry harder than hearing "Barack Obama"

Music Man

(1,184 posts)
15. It's worth pointing out that Sherman was no abolitionist.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 01:01 AM
Jul 2015

He was pro-Union, determined to crush the Confederates because they were traitors. But he believed blacks were inferior to whites and should remain slaves.

Just looking for consistency!

Igel

(35,387 posts)
22. And he was a half-hearted abolitionist.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 10:07 AM
Jul 2015

Freed many of his family's slaves, believed that in 20 years there'd be no slavery--and since slavery was evil, that was a great thing.

So the hero's tainted and the devil's not pure evil. Makes life tough for binary thinkers.

Both did their jobs, whatever their beliefs. Such was the interpretation of "honor" and "dignity" at the time.

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