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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAn Appreciation Thread For Democrats President Barack Obama and SoS John Kerry on the Iran Deal.
And all Democrats involved.
This was a great success for the Democratic Party and the United States.
It's a great day to be a Democrat at Democratic Underground, which is a stronghold of Democrats!
Did I mention Democrats and the massive victory that our first African-American President, a Democrat, achieved today?
Rec this if you think that we Democrats did good.
It would be a shame if any DUer thought this was some sort of... Failure?
Uncle Joe
(58,481 posts)Thanks for the thread, onehandle.
MADem
(135,425 posts)She's also the one herding cats in Congress to make sure that Democrats stand with Barack Obama on this matter.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/14/politics/hillary-clinton-iran-nuclear-deal/index.html
What's bound to draw attention as the agreement's political ramifications come into focus: Clinton owns a piece of it. She helped the negotiations get started...Clinton explained her role in the negotiations in her memoir, "Hard Choices." She wrote that she began back-channel talks with Iran through the sultan of Oman, who had helped free American hikers imprisoned on espionage charges and suggested the nuclear talks.
She then had Sullivan, a top aide at the State Department, play a central role in getting the negotiations off the ground -- flying to Oman, meeting with Iranians and eventually leading to a September 2013 phone call in which Obama and Iranian President Hassan Rouhani agreed to formally pursue the negotiations.
...On Tuesday, Clinton praised her successor as secretary of state, Kerry, as well as Moniz, and said she'd ensure it is followed if she wins the 2016 presidential race.
http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-iran-deal-2015-7
Hillary Clinton may have just thrown the Iran deal a huge lifeline
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-iran-deal-2015-7#ixzz3fv2aSdd3
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton reportedly told Democrats on Tuesday that she strongly supports the president's nuclear deal with Iran.... Clinton gave a "full-throated endorsement" of the compromise.
The fact that Clinton and President Barack Obama are unified on the issue could be crucial for the agreement to survive the Republican-controlled Congress. ....If Congress sends a joint resolution of disapproval to Obama, it would trigger a new timeline. He would have 12 days to veto the resolution, something he promised he would do Tuesday morning. Then, Congress would have 10 days to vote to override his veto.
Overriding a presidential veto requires a two-thirds majority of both chambers of Congress, so Obama would then need 34 allied senators to block the override. If both chambers vote to override, it would prevent Obama from suspending sanctions on Iran related to its nuclear program.
Some congressional Democrats are more hawkish on foreign policy matters than Obama, giving hope to Republicans crafting a bipartisan pushback against the landmark agreement. However, Democrats would likely have a harder time bucking both Obama and Clinton, who is their party's front-runner in the 2016 presidential race.
Uncle Joe
(58,481 posts)this endeavor both past and future, much more will be needed from all the Democrats in power and even those that aren't.
Thanks for the reminder, MADem.
sheshe2
(83,986 posts)Thank you MADem!
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)Good thing history isn't written at DU I guess!
Didn't want to name her by name in the OP, but I sure did imply it.
heh...
MADem
(135,425 posts)That's one way around it...heh heh...!!!
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Give peace a chance
quickesst
(6,283 posts)...and rec for the sane party.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)As John Kerry said, "What do we do? Go to war? Bomb them? Sanction them more?"
Assuming the GOP and Blue dogs can't sink this, it may be one of the real cornerstones of Obama's Presidency- making peace instead of giving in to the "inevitable" war.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,246 posts)calimary
(81,556 posts)Cha
(297,888 posts)SunSeeker
(51,771 posts)Ilsa
(61,709 posts)To this news.
Thank you, Mr. President and Sec. Kerry!
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)It is too bad he is still trying to sell out the US citizenry to corporate oligarchs.
Kenjie
(122 posts)to avoid another foolish war in the middle east. Yes please!
calimary
(81,556 posts)Glad you're here! Diplomacy definitely. Let's keep talking, and not start shooting.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)their efforts were as well.
+1 for a sane world.
New Orleans Strong
(212 posts)...sadly, Lindsey Graham has referred to Iranians as Arabs. Bomb first! Learn ANYTHING second! Works every time! Amirite? Amirite??!! Learn Anything? Anything at all? Anything?... Nope... Even the Persians don't think so - Sweet Baby Jesus.
Who wouldn't want such an erudite thinker in charge of the free world?
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Some days I would swear it's in their DNA.
New Orleans Strong
(212 posts)So exciting. And hopeful!
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Look at this one here:
That's a reptilian thing.
Just think, he could be POTUS!
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)those visuals.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)That's a great graphic.
Even though I can't support insulting actual reptiles.
❤
freshwest
(53,661 posts)We love it because it feels so good!
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)THAT was hilarious!!
Sometimes I think maybe I'm missing out because I don't watch tv. This is one of those times.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Television is depressing, anxiety producing to set the brain up for propaganda and degrading for the most part.
Even entertainment show are conditioning for propaganda. They are commericals for a way of life that isn't democratic nor sustainable.
And a terrible waste of time. Our lives are made of seconds and minutes and hours, etc. We need to make use of our time for it is limited. The greats of our times know this.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)I don't watch for the same reasons you don't. You said it well. It makes me feel ill. So degrading, so Lowest Common Denominator.
mountain grammy
(26,663 posts)I think I'm drooling a little.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)Arabs are Sunni (Saudi Arabia), Persians are Shiites. I don't have a religious bone in my mind.
I do respect all people of good will. For war mongers and terrorists, rot in the hell of your own choosing.
rocktivity
(44,583 posts)Or Obama's hair is looking a little less gray.
rocktivity
whathehell
(29,100 posts)I thought the same thing!...Do you think maybe Michelle
maybe talked him into using "A Touch of Gray" or something?
I thought he should have done that all along.
sarge43
(28,946 posts)kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)President Obama and Secretary Kerry accomplished a great bit of diplomacy to stop another stupid war.
Stellar
(5,644 posts)Liberal_Dog
(11,075 posts)I fully support giving peace a chance.
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)I am very proud of Secretary Kerry!
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)We have nothing to lose in this deal. If Iran keeps its promises, it is one more step toward peace and international cooperation in the area. If Iran does not keep its promises, we still have the option of the last resort. I hope that Iran keeps its promises.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)I heard it right here on DU many times.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Moostache
(9,897 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(14,027 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)speaks volumes...
WillyT
(72,631 posts)think
(11,641 posts)Today is an awesome day.
kaiserhog
(167 posts)It is really a shame that Kerry was not elected President.
YvonneCa
(10,117 posts)...he persevered in his goal of making America Stronger by securing the safety of Iran's nuclear capability through diplomacy. I believe he would have done that as President. He did it anyway, when he could have just retired to a great life.
Only a person of great integrity does something like that. He deserves our gratitude. 🇺🇸
freshwest
(53,661 posts)HassleCat
(6,409 posts)Oh, yeah. I know people like that. Good enough is the enemy of the perfect. They're still complaining about not getting a single payer heath insurance law. When we get something people thought was impossible, they move the goal posts.
Botany
(70,627 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)Botany
(70,627 posts)flat knows about nuclear materials and weapons and he got to write up what was needed
to get the deal done.
http://energy.gov/contributors/dr-ernest-moniz
"they" have Tom Cotton and Lindsey Graham and we get Ernie M.
calimary
(81,556 posts)He certainly made good with this endeavor.
Actually, on edit, he also reminds me not just of an aging hippie, but he kinda looks like George Washington.
Botany
(70,627 posts)... nose hairs, and mis matched socks ....... The man is wicked smart and I am sure that
after running an experiment for 48 hours hw looked really wild.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)And he's been absolutely key to all this, along with the civilian nuclear deal being worked out with India.
Herman4747
(1,825 posts)nikto
(3,284 posts)And he had to defy the Neocons bigtime to do it.
Good 4 Him!!!!
eridani
(51,907 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)calimary
(81,556 posts)Reinforce good behavior!
Kudos to all the peacemakers.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Good job.
calimary
(81,556 posts)That'll put a big fat exclamation point and underline on this effort, and maybe his whole Presidency.
What a way to go out!
Recursion
(56,582 posts)That would be interesting
sheshe2
(83,986 posts)PBO, SOS Kerry and for Hillary as well.
Well done, all they are saying is diplomacy works and we have a chance for some peace.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)And long-term thinking. And responsible action. And intelligence. And Democrats.
❤
sheshe2
(83,986 posts)I agree with all you said, Blanche.
They rock!
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Really amazing.
(and so good to see...I was just looking at some appaling stupidity on fb. I needed this!)
George II
(67,782 posts)Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)I am sure that everyone involved worked their butts off to achieve this and the world thanks them.
Aristus
(66,487 posts)Congratulations, Mr. Secretary!
karynnj
(59,507 posts)Just reading of their many long negotiating sessions over many weeks, months and even years, this is a well deserved victory for them the EU, UK, France, Germany, Russia and China.
It had to be very tricky negotiating a deal acceptable to all 6 parties.
What is most important is that it is something that makes a terrible war less likely.
burrowowl
(17,653 posts)with messages on do not stop this.
Martin Eden
(12,881 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,484 posts)there do not hate us. It's all been two stupid governments having a pissing contest. Now maybe we can actually improve relations with the Middle East.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)I wonder if he'll take time off for a while so he can rest?
YvonneCa
(10,117 posts)...likely.
blue neen
(12,335 posts)I appreciate that the President and John Kerry tried diplomacy first - a stark difference from the scary members of the Repuke clown car. The President has done some very disappointing things and some very good things, and I give him credit here.
herding cats
(19,569 posts)My hat is off to all who took a stance for advancing diplomacy in these talks.
jazzimov
(1,456 posts)So good to see you~
Graet day, huh.
sheshe2
(83,986 posts)raven mad
(4,940 posts)Hence, Obama and Kerry did it.
KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)Happy for this and Cuba negotiations.
NanceGreggs
(27,820 posts)... this Obama kid is goin' places.
This will good look on his resume - just another amazing accomplishment for the BEST PRESIDENT EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kudos to everyone who worked so hard towards this goal - I'm sure it was not any easy task. But they DID IT - and President Barack Hussein Obama was the captain of the ship!!!
flamingdem
(39,333 posts)Great post, a day for dems to celebrate!
Hekate
(90,927 posts)nxylas
(6,440 posts)So it seems only fair to praise him when he deserves it. The whole world rejoices; at least outside the neoconservative bubble, where it's forever 1938, and banging the drum for war makes any man into Churchill.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)This is a lame duck (or 'canard boiteux' in French):
onehandle
(51,122 posts)mylye2222
(2,992 posts)VIVE KERRY VIVE LA DIPMOMATIE ET VIVE LA COOPERATION INTERNATIONNALE..
Btw... think of it...
A deal set... on Bastille Day... Thanks to a guy who loves France and speaks fluent French...
Cha
(297,888 posts)harun
(11,348 posts)66 dmhlt
(1,941 posts)betsuni
(25,730 posts)City Lights
(25,171 posts)Roy Rolling
(6,943 posts)"...not based on TRUST but based on VERIFICATION"
blm
(113,122 posts).
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)d_legendary1
(2,586 posts)mucifer
(23,589 posts)The republicans like to frame it like President Obama is some crazy rogue lunatic politician.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)President Obama has earned the Nobel Prize. I admire John Kerry more as a SOS than a Senator.
"Dancing in the Streets"
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)William769
(55,148 posts)paleotn
(17,993 posts)hopemountain
(3,919 posts)adult commitments to communication, open dialogue, and peaceful outcomes. negotiating a peaceful agreement requires the universal tenets of respect and sincerity which are beyond words or even actions, they are discerned. bravo, mr. president and mr. secretary of state - and all of the negotiators who contributed to reaching this agreement toward peace. and, of course, lots of oil.
Hekate
(90,927 posts)Duval
(4,280 posts)Maedhros
(10,007 posts)Bring Iran back into the community of nations, rather than ostracizing them further.
DrBulldog
(841 posts)... and how ineffectual and mediocre her tenure as SoS really was.
rury
(1,021 posts)And all involved parties!!
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Cha
(297,888 posts)nolabear
(42,001 posts)Turbineguy
(37,386 posts)After nearly 40 years.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)U4ikLefty
(4,012 posts)Good job Obama!!!
2banon
(7,321 posts)Bravo Kerry and Obama , Bravo!