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As Americans gathered in cities across the country to celebrate the legalization of same-sex marriage, several thousand Turks also tried to march in support of rights for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people.
Police in Istanbul attacked them with water cannons and rubber pellets. The repression reflected the narrowing of freedom under President Recep Tayyip Erdogan; in past years, Turkey was the site of the largest gay pride marches in the Muslim world.
But Turkey is hardly alone in vilifying, isolating and threatening LGBT people. While 25 countries and territories now allow gay marriage, 75 nations treat homosexual behavior as a crime.
In 10 countries, it is punishable by death and even where it is not, just being gay is often fatal. A May U.N. report found continuing, serious and widespread human rights violations perpetrated, too often with impunity, against individuals based on their sexual orientation and gender identity.
Since 2011, hundreds of people have been killed and thousands more injured in brutal, violent attacks, the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights reported.
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mahatmakanejeeves
Hydra
(14,459 posts)And so do the bullets- rubber ones this time.
We're not even done here in the US, but the SCOTUS is a huge step.
Behind the Aegis
(53,944 posts)There is still much to be done in the US, without a doubt. I feel too many think the marriage equality win was the be-all-to-end-all for gay equality...it wasn't; it is simply one more layer of street leading us to equality. What I am finding interesting are the countries backsliding on GLBT issues, such as Turkey and Russia, and what those movements could have in store for LGBT people, not only in those countries, but in other countries where inroads have been made in GLBT equality. Sadly, many places are backsliding (or getting worse) because of American influence from the obsessed right-wing, fundamentalist groups exporting their "crazy" to other places.
brer cat
(24,556 posts)and GLBT issues. I am not automatically opposed to TPP, but the inclusion of Brunei is especially troubling. The priority of American foreign policy should be on protecting human rights, and Brunei's Sharia penal system is barbaric. I don't see how we can negotiate trade deals with such countries and still have a credible voice on GLBT abuses.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)openly rejected any discussion of human rights concerns around TPP in favor of lots of statistics about potential job loss and dense rhetoric about national sovereignty. It is very sad, because while both areas of concern are important, the human rights issues are easily communicated and contain clear moral arguments.
The whole 'Civil rights do not matter, only economics matter' mindset on DU caused DU to forgo all of the most effective arguments against the TPP.
Skittles
(153,142 posts)yes indeed
Heidi
(58,237 posts)eridani
(51,907 posts)951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)Saudi Arabia: http://9to5mac.com/2014/05/21/apple-cleared-to-operate-and-market-products-in-saudi-arabia/
and Brunei which adopted an interpretation of Sharia law that calls for execution of gays: http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/01/world/asia/brunei-sharia-law/
Behind the Aegis
(53,944 posts)951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)I'm just trying to figure out what you're getting at here with your "And?" response.
Behind the Aegis
(53,944 posts)I am just trying to figure out what the relevance of using a gay man as an example has to do with the article, especially given you said nothing about the article.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)You can hear similar arguments in defense of genital cutting, banning women from driving or keeping people with mental disabilities hidden away.
The appeal to a sense of tolerance may stop you for a moment, especially if you are loath to proclaim one faith or way of life superior to another.
But it shouldnt stop you for long. Nations are entitled to organize themselves as they wish, but not at the expense of fundamental human rights.
Thanks for posting this, BtA.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)There was a whole battle over trying to get permits for the parade last month and conservatives were applying for permits on the same day to prevent it. The police ended up telling the gay pride parade organizers no and it went before a judge and was reversed. I saw an article in an online newspaper/blog (not sure what to call it) that did an interview with one of these conservative pastors here in Korea and reading it made me want to hurl.
It seems there is still a fair amount of censorship in terms of certain subjects unless of course you are a conservative. I really have to bite my tongue not to tell Koreans how much it pisses me off. Even though I have residency, I still have to mind my manners a bit.
msongs
(67,394 posts)sheshe2
(83,728 posts)damnedifIknow
(3,183 posts)Maybe we should let these guys run things for a bit and see how it goes: