Serena Williams Drinks, Bathes In, And Makes Lemonade With White Tears

[KamaAina]

http://verysmartbrothas.com/serena-williams-drinks-bathes-in-and-makes-lemonade-with-white-tears/

Serena Williams just beat Maria Sharapova. Again. Because that’s what she does. Chew bubble gum, beat Maria Sharapova, and win majors. And I have no doubt that, as long as she doesn’t become too distracted by the emojis Drake is texting her right now, she will beat Garbine Muguruza in the Wimbledon final.

There is a particular type of person who will read that last paragraph and become very angry. Whose soul is nicked with every one of her victories. And this tickles me. I am motherfucking tickled. Because it’s almost as if Serena Williams was specifically and intentionally created with the intention of pissing off the most racist sports fans possible. Her entire existence is an elaborate troll for White tears.

Be from Compton? Check. Dominate a sport traditionally dominated by conventionally attractive and affluent White women? Check. Do this while being “so thick that everybody else in the room is so uncomfortable“? Check. Rock literally every hairstyle every Black American woman has ever rocked, and sometimes all at the exact same time? Check. Despite endless attacks on her looks and “masculinity”, continue to have some of the most eligible Black bachelors in the country (literally) fight over her? Check. Have an active dad who gives no fucks about what White people think? Check. Do absolutely nothing remotely criminal or even rude, making the tearjerkers scour the Earth for shit to criticize? Check.

Are you tickled too? Because this is some tickling-ass shit.

The saucer she uses to mix the tears:

[wendylaroux]

1. Look at that smile!!!!

I want that confidence!!
I love her

[KamaAina]

2. Me too!

[randys1]

348. I did two threads today, one about how white people feel discomfort when called on for white

privilege, then a thread about white privilege, with white posters whining that it makes them uncomfortable

dear god, if I have to spell it out anymore I will fell like I am in kindergarten class

[KamaAina]

350. Aren't you?

[randys1]

352. Seems like it

[Comrade Grumpy]

3. Really? I don't know if that's your headline or not, but it stinks of race-baiting.

I don't see the need to denigrate her athleticism and great victories with this crap.

[KamaAina]

4. It is the actual headline.

From a site called Very Smart Brothas.

[Daemonaquila]

5. Lol! She better watch her salt intake!

She's just fabulous. I hope we have her winning for a long time.

[jeff47]

6. Yeah, it's not like a bevy of white folks started shouting "steroids!" or "she looks like a man!"

Nah, race wasn't mentioned at all around her recent win.

[AngryAmish]

24. The steroid thing is out there

For obvious reasons.

[stevenleser]

32. You mean its out there about athletes for obvious reasons or about HER for obvious reasons?

Tennis is not generally a good sport choice for steroids or other performance enhancing drugs.

Anything that can throw off your ability to concentrate or affects your mood or does anything remotely unsettling would almost certainly ruin a players ability to win matches.

Steroids works for sports where you might need to concentrate a little for a moment every now and then and strength is all important over all other concerns.

Tennis, particularly at the professional level requires you to maintain strong concentration and control throughout every point, and some points last a fair amount of time.

I say that as someone who was a fairly strong player in my day.

[AngryAmish]

78. Steroids help in every sport, including golf

Androgens help with focus and concentration plus recovery which allow more training. Also short burst accelleration, of which tennis has in droves.

Serena has the steroid thing out there because of her build and the panic room thing.

I don't follow tennis so I don't know about other players but I have eyes and Serena looks like a steroid user. As did Sosa, McGuire and all those ballplayers who got akinny when baseball got serious about drug testing.

[laundry_queen]

171. A lot of women

with PCOS look like that. WE tend to have slightly elevated testosterone levels (nowhere near male levels, but elevated enough to change our appearance). I've been called horrid names over the years due to my appearance. 'roid monster is just another to add to the list I guess.

[AngryAmish]

181. My sister has pcos.

I know. Are you suggesting Ms. Williams has PCOS? Because she does not.

[AngryAmish]

183. I feel like everyone is denying reality, and that sucks.

I have never known a woman as muscular as Ms. Williams. Even women taking steroids, which is not unknown in college sports.

I am not calling her a man, but jeez, folks.

[gollygee]

185. I've known plenty of women built like her

and she is feminine. There's a gorgeous picture of her in this post: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026969528#post134

She's a professional athlete who does a great deal of physical conditioning. Women do have muscle and can work those muscles.

I remember some other woman athlete once upon a time (ages ago) and people complaining about her thighs being big and muscular, and my thought was, "Look what she's doing! How much practice does that take? Practicing that kind of thing all the time for years gives you thighs like that."

[eridani]

199. That's something that a lot of men don't get about intense physical training

Higher androgen levels in men have the effect that average men, trained or not, are naturally closer to their peak physical capacity as a daily thing. Untrained women are much farther away from their potential peak. And that means that training makes far more of a difference for women than for men.

[7962]

221. Wish I had 'em.

[bravenak]

206. I'm built just like her. It's offensive.

I can't lose weight because when I exercise I accumulate muscle. I gain weight but lose inches. My daddy played every sport, I played lots of sports, did weight training. If I spend six month working out I'll look like a body builder.
It's offensive. I'm still feminine even if I barely have boob and can bench press my husband.

[laundry_queen]

212. I'm the same way

it is offensive. I can relate to the body builder/being able to bench press a husband. LOL. I get really strong when I life weights. Oh hell, I'm pretty strong without the weights. My 14 yo daughter and I stacked our super large washer/dryer when the contracted delivery guys wouldn't do it. We are pretty strong over here. And still feminine.

[bravenak]

215. Real women lift washing machines.:)

Love it! My nine year old is hella strong too. I have to stop her from beating up her older cousin. He's 12 and cannot get out of her headlocks.

[laundry_queen]

219. Too funny - I like it too.

My 2 older daughters (I have 4) are 3 years apart and total opposites. My oldest is tiny, small boned, thin and quite delicate looking. When she was a baby I was scared to break her, LOL. She was very weak, I was scared something was wrong with her but she hit all her milestones at the proper times. Then my second came along. Totally opposite (when her dad held her at first, he couldn't believe the difference - he said she was 'built like a brick shithouse' I said, "no, she's built like me".) Let's just say it's a really good thing they are the best of friends, because I know who would come out on top of that altercation and it wouldn't be the elder. And it just goes to show a lot of this stuff is genetics. And people come in all shapes and sizes (and strengths) and it doesn't make them more or less feminine or manly or anything.

[bravenak]

223. OMG!!

My mom says that to me! Built like a brick shithouse. You're husband is hella funny.
My youngest is a bit like your oldest but still quite muscular, but skiiiiny. She makes up for her lack of size by using objects to bring pain. Smart girl, always has a trick up her sleeve.

[awoke_in_2003]

252. Thanks to this sub-thread

the ear worm of the day is going to be Brick House by the Commodores

[Rex]

324. No no no...because the poster PERSONALLY doesn't know any muscular women, somehow

that means the entire WORLD is that way!

I swear the average human is so myopic, it is a wonder we are still alive and functioning as societies.

[bravenak]

351. Lol!

I know, right? This is how I know we are barely a step up from apes.

[Scuba]

243. You really, really need to self-delete your posts in this thread. Really.

[AngryAmish]

245. So I have an unpopular opinion. Big deal.

It is not the end of the world. We are grown ups. We will not melt if we disagree.

Cheers!

[Darb]

253. No, you have the exact opinion that racists asshats have, and, for that matter, the exact

opinion that the author is cracking on. The author is talking about you. He is laughing at you and loving it.

Do some soul searching as to why you feel the way you do. You might not like what you find.

[Mr Dixon]

271. I call BS

On your statement, i have a retired MSG that works in my office and she is bigger than Ms. Williams and older lifetime gym rat no drugs so now what?

[laundry_queen]

192. How do you know?

You have access to her medical records, do you? Or some kind of inside knowledge? Perhaps she gave you a call to let you know? It's not like you can just 'tell'. 6-10% of the female population has it.

What I'm saying is that how she looks is not outside the norm for some women PCOS or not. She is an athlete and if she tends to have a larger build, then it's totally believable that she could look so muscular without steroids. You should see my 2nd daughter. I'm trying to get her interested in something requiring upper body strength because she naturally has a ton of muscle. some people are just built like that. If my daughter became an elite athlete, her body would look a LOT like Serena Williams'.

[AngryAmish]

196. If you don't think Ms. Williams is in the 4th or 5th std of muscularity

Then I cannot help.

[laundry_queen]

202. What does that even mean?

please explain. Layman's terms please.

[KamaAina]

307. std = standard deviation

In English, Ms. Williams is among the most muscular of all women. Which might explain why she's racked up all those titles.

I have heard nary a peep in the Sports Group about Serena juicing, unlike, say, Rafael Nadal.

[TeeYiYi]

313. I think...

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...she's perfect.



TYY

[Polly Hennessey]

349. Oh, my, god

[TeeYiYi]

353. I know. ..nt

TYY

[laundry_queen]

374. I know what that is

Never have I heard it used how that poster used it so forgive me for not figuring out what in the heck he meant. And anyway, in my stats classes we used std dev as the abbreviation. And 3rd std dev is 99.7% - I doubt she is more muscular than 99.7% of women. That poster needs to go to a gym or a sports event. (anyway, 4th or 5th std dev is pretty meaningless given the small increments of percentages after 3rd std dev).

[PBass]

225. Looks like we have an "expert" here on world class female athletes,

An "expert" who admits that (s)he doesn't know any muscular women. Maybe you should talk less, and listen more? You might learn something from the women posting in this thread.

[Joe Chi Minh]

315. With their natural, hyper-athletic physiques, those sisters don't need steroids,

any more than African-American heavy-weight boxers do.

I remember reading that Henry Cooper, seeing his physique, once said to someone of Frank Bruno he's got a good physique, but doing all that weight-lifting isn't going to do him any good. Words to that effect. And he was told that no, that was just his natural physique. He didn't do weight-lifting to get like that!

[stevenleser]

330. Golf requires a moment of concentration every 10-20 minutes. Tennis requires 20-120 seconds of

concentration followed by breaks of 15-45 seconds.

There have been tennis players caught doing steroids. If you notice, its almost never the top 10 players.

[AngryAmish]

336. And you believe it is on the level?

What would happen to ratings and the gate if 50% of the field were juicing?

Nobody wants the stars caught. No upside to it.

[stevenleser]

343. Yep, I believe it's on the level. Ask any serious tennis player.

Heck my game was affected if I took a motrin. Most other folks are the same way.

[Marr]

142. That isn't true-- steroids sharply enhance physical performance in just about every activity.

I'm not saying the accusations against Williams hold any water, but still.

[stevenleser]

329. I agree it enhances physical activity. I disagree that it helps mental activity and concentration.

If you haven't played tennis at a strong intermediate level or higher, you probably won't understand.

Someone ranked USTA level 4.0 (an intermediate amateur level) or above would understand what I am talking about.

[Marr]

332. I never said steroids enhance your mental activity or concentration.

I'm not sure where that's coming from.

Steroids give just about any athlete a very real, very measurable, physical advantage. Such substances would absolutely improve performance in a sport like tennis, no doubt about it.

[stevenleser]

333. No, but you said it would improve performance in tennis. And disregarding the effects it has on

mental concentration means you don't understand tennis.

Any substance that could make it harder to concentrate and/or control your emotions is a very bad thing for one's tennis game. Everything I have heard about steroids suggests that at performance enhancing dosages they tend to cause emotional instability and uncontrollable outbursts.

Most other sports don't have this component to them. If you can pull it together for 2-4 seconds of concentration every minute or two you can still perform at most sports. That won't cut it for tennis.

[Marr]

337. And you don't understand performance enhancing drugs.

Steroids don't cloud your ability to think or make you any more incapable of controlling your emotions. So-called 'roid rage' is not even proven to exist. Some studies have suggested that violent behavior has a correlation with steroid use, but not a causal connection. Steroid use is markedly higher with people who already have a history of violence-- in prisons, for instance.

Concentration just isn't a factor here. There's no denying that steroids increase performance in just about every physical activity. I expect they'd be particularly suited to a sport like tennis, personally-- not particularly unsuited.

Again, I'm not saying Williams is using steroids. You just can't look at a person and say with certainty whether they're using steroids or not. You can have reasonable suspicions, particularly when an athlete is well past their prime for any given sport and continues to perform at their peak-- like Lance Armstrong. But even then, you can't be sure. There are incredible physical outliers that just make it impossible to make such accusations, and those physical outliers are always going to filter into the top ranks of physical competition.

[stevenleser]

340. The National Institutes of Health agree with me and disagree with you

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8534221

Abstract
The literature on the psychiatric aspects of anabolic steroids (AS) abuse in the United States is reviewed. Since the 1980s the use of AS has become prevalent among adults and adolescents who are concerned with muscle size and strength, and the abuse of these agents is regarded as a serious drug problem. Researchers noticed that illicit, high-dose use of AS may produce not only somatic adverse effects but behavioral changes. Several studies using psychometry and questionnaires suggested that characteristic psychological phenomena such as increased aggression and irritability may be observed in AS abusers. Although the evidence determining the addictive potential of AS is limited, some authors provide evidence that the long-term use of AS may lead to a mental disorder which meets the DSM-III-R criteria of psychoactive substance abuse. Detailed case reports of AS-induced mental disorders are scarce, but characteristic symptoms, particularly major mood disturbances, have been recognized. Violent crimes committed by abusers taking large doses of AS have also been highlighted. In these cases the dangerous behavior appears to have been induced by aggression, grandiosity, and rage. This review indicates that empirical data specifying psychiatric effects of AS are not sufficient at present, and more attention needs to be paid to trends in AS abuse in Japan.

ON EDIT and more recently:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15984895

Behavioural manifestations of anabolic steroid use.
Trenton AJ1, Currier GW.
Author information
Abstract
The use of anabolic androgenic steroids (AAS) for gains in strength and muscle mass is relatively common among certain subpopulations, including athletes, bodybuilders, adolescents and young adults. Adverse physical effects associated with steroid abuse are well documented, but more recently, increased attention has been given to the adverse psychiatric effects of these compounds. Steroids may be used in oral, 17alpha-alkylated, or intramuscular, 17beta-esterified, preparations. Commonly, steroid users employ these agents at levels 10- to 100-fold in excess of therapeutic doses and use multiple steroids simultaneously, a practice known as 'stacking'. Significant psychiatric symptoms including aggression and violence, mania, and less frequently psychosis and suicide have been associated with steroid abuse. Long-term steroid abusers may develop symptoms of dependence and withdrawal on discontinuation of AAS. Treatment of AAS abusers should address both acute physical and behavioural symptoms as well as long-term abstinence and recovery. To date, limited information is available regarding specific pharmacological treatments for individuals recovering from steroid abuse. This paper reviews the published literature concerning the recognition and treatment of behavioural manifestations of AAS abuse.

[Marr]

341. No, they don't.

They're noting a correlation without asserting a causal connection-- and even note that they're talking about the extremes of AS abuse, and that such episodes are not expected, predictable symptoms but a kind of possible reaction.

Here:

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/neuroskeptic/2014/08/30/myth-roid-rage/#.VaVyGfmdo3U

[Rex]

320. No no no...because the poster PERSONALLY doesn't know any muscular women, somehow

Serena MUST I TELL YOU, MUST be taking steroids!

JUST BECAUSE!

I like it when posters out themselves like this one has.

[stevenleser]

334. Exactly. There are a lot of dimensions to this accusation, and all of them are wrong.

There is the racial offensive aspect to it. The "i don't know any women this muscular" aspect to it which is ridiculous, I know of plenty of women that muscular. And then there is the fact that the particular sport we are talking about is probably one of the poorest choices to try to enhance your performance with steroids.

Blood doping, maybe. It might help a little. I could see that happening in tennis. But that's not what they are alleging with Serena.

[Rex]

335. I know you are trying to be nice, but no to doping. This is just flat out bigotry imo.

Even after over ten years here, I fool myself into thinking I've seen it all. Nope. Serena Williams MUST have cheated to win. Every card will be played at her (not saying she is a man, not saying she couldn't have won legit, not saying she is too muscluar for a 'normal' women, not saying not saying). Baseless gossip and they should be ashamed.

How many times you heard that lame line of defense/excuse for subtile racism/sexism? Yeah TENNIS...when will we be testing Tiger next...you know nothing in common with anything topical, just thought I would ask.

All this really does is make me more outspoken then I was before for minority/women's rights and I bet I am not alone.

[stevenleser]

338. Oh, no you misunderstand me. I dont think Serena does any of that crap. I'm just opining on

what might help a tennis player in general.

Blood doping might help a miniscule amount, but IMHO steroids would hurt more than they help.

And Serena doesnt do any of the above.

[Rex]

342. I know you were just being nice and giving an opposing side of the argument.

Maybe I am wrong to do so; but I roll my eyes when it comes to golf, tennis and steroids. As someone that has lifted weights most of my life, I can attest to many women naturally building muscle mass with little to no effort. For some it is as easy as making the effort. Others do it with creatine and other easy bulk-mass drinks. Genetics also can have a lot to say in it.

The lame "steroid" excuses are easy and cheap.

I am very proud for both William sisters and their parents, they are magnificent athletes as the apex of their game.

[CANDO]

367. I think the main indicator is head size and neck thickness

My BIL went from average sized and over a short period turned into a fucking gorilla with his head being noticeably larger. I asked him what the hell he's on and he simply said egg whites....serious! I said no fucking way dude. You are juicing. There's a stigma for most juicers to admit they used a shortcut. It's a pride thing.

[brush]

79. What's really obvious . . .

is that anyone who has played tennis and trained for twenty-some years at the highest level of this hard-hitting era of women's tennis (that excludes, sorry I have to say this, all the pitty pat hitters like Everett, Hingis, et al) using their arms, forearms and shoulders will have well-developed arms, forearms and shoulders.

DUH! That's a no-brainer wouldn't you say?

And where were the steroid criticisms when Martina Navratilova, the first of the hard hitters, and she of the huge forearms, was winning.

And google photos of Serena in a dress if you wanna see a gorgeous, curves-in-all-the-right-places woman.

And that's what's obviously out there.

[Ex Lurker]

85. Navratilova caught plenty of flack

for being "too masculine." Steroids weren't nearly the issue back then that they are now, but she was a target for other reasons. Is some of the criticism of the Williams sisters race-based? I'm sure it is. But this "white tears" baloney is race baiting itself and DU should be above it.

[brush]

126. Navratilova caught the "too masculine" flack, unfairly, because she was gay . . .

it wasn't this steroid/looks like a man/racism crap that Serena gets.

[Igel]

191. It started before that.

Really.

Now, if people could just learn to pronounce her name cesky.

[brush]

194. Huh?

Pls. explain.

And what does "cesky" mean?

[jeff47]

100. No, it's out there for stupid reasons.

Gotta rip down the black woman somehow.

Professional tennis players are drug tested more than any other sport. Including surprise testing in the offseason. She isn't doing steroids.

But throwing out "She's a man!" crap is a way to tear her down. Good job.

[AngryAmish]

119. I will admit ignorence of tennis regimen, but Lance Armstrong never pissed hot

A simple testosterone gel clears the body in 10 to 12 hours, iirc.

Call me all the names you want, it does not make you right. I am a cynic. This cynicism is the result of a lifetime of experience. I think Serena Williams uses androgens.

[eridani]

201. What in fucking hell would a distance cyclist want with bulk?

After recovering from cancer, he lost about 15 lbs of upper body mass, which helped him a lot.

[underahedgerow]

216. Well, Angry Amish, you can speculate all you want, but you're wrong. She's a Jehovah's Witness.

SW is a JW. JW followers don't pollute their bodies with crap, their body is their temple. The primary focus of their personal religious ethos is based on ethical treatment of themselves and the world and people around them.

She is a clean living, incredibly hard working, very athletic woman, and so is her sister. Their mother and father are very tall, Venus is nearly 6' tall, Serena is 5'9. Did they get tall by doing drugs? Is being tall a masculine trait?

In addition to working out nearly every day of her life, she is mostly vegan and has a strict dietary, all natural protein based food plan during tournaments -- which she is busy doing 10 months out of the year, at least. She was walking on her hands at age 8, the length of her tennis court. She runs marathons and can do full splits without batting an eye. She is sponsoring her own charitable run in Miami in December, want to donate or have a run? https://www.facebook.com/SerenaWilliamsUltimateRunSouthBeach

She has hit literally millions of tennis balls since she was 4, is randomly tested for drug use before every match and works harder in one day than most people work in their entire lives to be as fit and healthy as she is. THIS is why she is the number one athlete in the world and just cannot be rivaled by any other professional athlete in this galaxy.

There is nothing masculine about this woman, any more so that Michelle Obama. Does MO do 'androgens'? The effects of 'roiding, including horrid skin conditions, massive, nasty cystic acne and that weird gut thing and can also include facial hair and a very low, masculine voice. SW has a soft, sweet tremolo voice and lovely skin.

Ever seen SW's ass? Her booty has its own instagram page. It puts Kim Kardashian's ass to shame. Does KK do androgens?

You have no idea what you're talking about. I'm speculating that you've never been in the athletics business, have never been around World Number 1 professional athletes and maybe you don't hang around ethical sporty people.

I do. I work for SW and can personally state that she doesn't do any sort of drugging. She is smart, ethical, kind, compassionate, honest, truthful and very passionate about sport, athleticism, doing good for her community, for children, family and her dogs. She is every bit as fragile as she is strong and you have no place in cruelly speculating and maliciously gossiping about people, especially kind, tremendously accomplished people, that you know nothing about.

[TeeYiYi]

217. I wish I could...

...rec this post a million times.

TYY

[bravenak]

224. Awesome post! This is how I have always seen her.

One of my idols to be sure. I feel inspired to get back in shape now.

[laundry_queen]

229. +1,000,000

I think it's been established up thread that poster doesn't know anything.

Excellent post. Thank you, underahedgerow.

[gollygee]

241. Thank you!

For coming into this thread and setting the record straight!

[awoke_in_2003]

256. "Ever seen SW's ass?"

I have- it should be immortalized in marble. These idiots claiming she is masculine should look a bit harder. I think most fear a strong woman, especially if they are AA (as evidenced by the BS the throw Michelle Obama's way)

[Catherine Vincent]

308. Awesome post...love you!

[Rex]

322. You will have to excuse some here, they cannot handle the fact that a black women is the CHAMP

of women's tennis! It is really eating away at them and I LOVE it! I hope the foam all day long at the mouth, just makes em easier to spot!

NOTICE you will NOT get a reply from said poster...I LOVE how they outed themselves on this particular subject.

Serena has talent on loan from God, she is the best athlete in her chosen field...people need to GET OVER IT.

[underahedgerow]

327. Is this about a Woman in a Man's World? This is an afterthought & I appreciate all the kind comments

thrown my way, so let me use this as an addendum.

Throughout history, men get very riled up when women dare to compete or work within 'their' environment. Politicians, religion, factory workers, athletes, in the military, on the farm, in the fields, and so on.

They get upset when women deftly assume their roles within the home...

I say this because in just these past few days I've had to deal with -- again -- men questioning my judgement on their work, which as usual, continues to disappoint.

I've always worked 'in a man's world'. From the age of 16 working in the music business just carrying gear, setting up and running lights and electrics for local bands, then working my way up the ranks as one of the few crew chicks on the road and in the biggest arenas in the world for the biggest bands on the stage. I tried to explain to my um country-fied cousins about my work, they insisted I could only be a groupie... because you know, a chick that hangs around rock n roll bands can only be there for one purpose. *sigh*

I'm not a big girl, just 5'5, 140 lbs, and all muscle. I always wore lipstick and looked nice while wearing workboots and a toolbelt, slinging a giant C wrench. I could pull 100 meters of 40 ought cable with the best of them.

I migrated into the home building, design, construction & renovation trades, mastering plumbing, lighting, electrics, painting, masonry, tile work, etc. There is nothing I can't manage or do on a renovation or new build project, not to mention I am a certified arborist and a master gardener and horticulturalist. I'm old, I've done a LOT.

So once again on a project, this idiot plumber wants to dig up 30 meters of driveway to find a leak that I keep telling him is coming from a different source. He COULD be right, but there is no evidence of the leak from the place he wants to dig up. I know where the leak is, sadly under some very big and heavy rocks. That's his problem. We've been going back and forth for 2 weeks.

But it's always the same story, just because I have tits and blonde hair, apparently I can't have a clue about a MAN'S trades, right?

So it must be the same for these men's regard of SW. A woman can't possibly compete or beat a man at their game or in work or in sport without being a lesbian, doing 'roids or somehow being less than they are.

[DrDan]

331. Don't believe she has run a marathon

[jeff47]

300. And you think that because............

See, you'd have to have an actual reason to think that. Instead of just wanting to shit on the black woman's accomplishments.

[Rex]

319. Oh, so because YOU PERSONALLY don't know of any women that muscular

she MUST be using sterioids...okay thank you for playing 'concern troll' and I am glad to see everyone that replied to you put you in your place.

Sad to see progressives acting like republicans on DU.



You insult every women with your bigoted statement, I hope that makes you happy.

[GummyBearz]

8. Agreed

Shes an amazing tennis player. She completely dominates her sport. Whats with the need to race bait? I'm a whitey, and as an American I enjoy every Serena victory... tennis is an international competition, not a racial competition. Yeesh

[Jester Messiah]

9. Fairly standard SJW stuff.

Best to just ignore them, they'll grow out of it one day.

[Prism]

12. SJW-ism

Popular with tumberlites.

Still an amusing article. Williams has put up with an unbelievable amount of racist shit. One of the finest athletes of our time.

[gollygee]

15. There's a context here

I'll paste this to you too:

http://www.thefrisky.com/2014-09-09/on-serena-williams-the-racism-experienced-by-black-women-athletes/

[MattBaggins]

44. Do not waste your time

Many have no intention of changing their minds.

Faux outrage is all they have

[heaven05]

54. the vox.com

june 7 2015, good one on the racism this woman alone faces.

[GoneOffShore]

40. Ah, no..

And thanks for your concern..

And as a 67 year old white guy, I think the OP is apposite.

It's only "race-baiting" if it makes you uncomfortable.

It made me laugh.

[bermudat]

98. Word!

[Number23]

133. Well said. But you gotta love the complaints about race baiting and SJWs. (Social Justice Warriors)

AverageJoe90 and his ilk used to LIVE to complain about SJW's too.

[DavidDvorkin]

50. Agreed.

[heaven05]

56. BS

the vox.com june 7,2015. That should put an end to comments such as this. Get over it, we have to.

[Igel]

190. It does.

It is.

Even if it is the headline, that allows some to duck responsibility for what they feel. It's not pretty, but a lot of "authentic" emotions aren't pretty.

Skokie wasn't pretty. But it was authentic.

[raindaddy]

284. I agree! It's a nasty ass headline written to generate controversy.

And you're right, it degrades her amazing achievements by trying to make her victory a race issue. We're witnessing probably the greatest woman tennis player that ever lived and she's also black. What's to cry about?

[yodermon]

293. *lick* mmmm

[monmouth4]

7. She is as nice as she is good-looking too. She was our first and only black cover on our very white

magazine cover and everyone just loved her when she came to do the photoshoot. She was so enjoyable to be around and very personable...

[ariesgem]

286. My sister & I worked with her a few years ago

Serena and Venus had a charity fashion show using their fashion line on behalf of the City of Hope cancer facility. The models were a combination of tennis players and professional models. Our job were as dressers - helping to get the models in/out of their changes. Our boss who owned the dressing agency that was booked for this show was a nasty little teabagger and was there to keep the models moving backstage. She approach Serena and screamed at her "Hurry up and get in your change! The show starts in 10 minutes! " She looked at her like "are you talking to me?" and snapped right back at her with "The show WON'T start without ME!" Lawd, I was laughing my ass off! Ms. Teabagger forgot who she was working for... :-D

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

10. I fucking love this! And we black women who rock our gorgeous nappy-ass hair...

...and are proud of our athletic curves and dark skin love it, too!

I fucking worship Serena Williams and gives NO FUCKS about what racist white folk think!

[Rex]

33. +1

Actually I am enjoying watching all the fuckwad bigots out there crybaby over obvious talent on loan from God! I love the fact that she is the BEST IN THE WORLD!

Eat it shitKKKickers!

BEST IN THE WORLD!

[Warpy]

64. Oh, I think she's had a few bad days like everybody else

when slurs from stupid bigots hurt.

However, she has to know she's the complete package of fantastic athletic ability, looks and personality most of the time.

The tears are mostly from a bunch of bigots who thought tennis would always be a "white" game. You know, like golf.

[malaise]

370. +1,000

Same here

[Nye Bevan]

11. Where were the "LeBron James makes lemonade with white tears" screeds

every time he won the MVP?

[gollygee]

13. There's a context here

This might explain where it comes from: http://www.thefrisky.com/2014-09-09/on-serena-williams-the-racism-experienced-by-black-women-athletes/

[KamaAina]

16. How much racism has been leveled at LeBron?

Compared to Serena? White folks expect basketball players to be black. Tennis players? Not so much.

[Nye Bevan]

21. "LeBron James shares hateful tweets"

MIAMI -- LeBron James started his own Twitter account in July because he wanted to be more in touch with fans and, as it has turned out, his non-fans.

To illustrate that sometimes unpleasant interaction, James took the unusual step of retweeting some hateful Twitter messages to his 900,000 followers on Tuesday afternoon. On Wednesday, the Miami Heat star said he did it to show people what he deals with on a daily basis.

James published three negative tweets on his feed including one that was racially charged. "I just want you guys to see it also," James said after the Heat's practice Wednesday afternoon. "To see what type of words that are said toward me and towards us as professional athletes. Everybody thinks it is a bed of roses and it's not."

In one message a person wrote that James is "a big nosed big lipped bug eyed (racial slur). Ur greedy, u try to hide ur ghettoness."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/news/story?id=5707475

[Orrex]

248. Well, there was this:

Last edited Wed Jul 15, 2015, 07:22 AM - Edit history (1)

However, broadly speaking you're exactly right, alas.

Still, fuck all that. Ms. Williams has worked her ass off for decades, with astonishing results, and I'm frankly amazed that her efforts haven't transformed her into a celestial entity made of pure energy.

I hope that she keeps kicking ass for decades to come, and to hell with the haters!

[LanternWaste]

28. I used to miss the forest concentrating on one tree only too...

I used to miss the forest concentrating on one tree only too...

[Bradical79]

316. Well, racism against NBA players is usually leveled against the entire league

It's a pretty poor comparison considering the NBA demographics.

[AzDar]

14. Adore Serena and Venus. This shit you just posted is racist as fuck.

[KamaAina]

17. I'm sure the folks over at Very Smart Brothas will be surprised to hear that.

Astonished, actually.

[gollygee]

19. That might be someone who thinks there's a such thing as "reverse racism" or that

racism can be leveled against white people.

To which I say this:

[heaven05]

47. good one

I laughed and I cried..........

[uponit7771]

105. +1

[Moostache]

122. Outstanding video, Lousy OP quoted article

The video is only about 1,000,000X better way to expose the problems of race and talking about race, which the OP's quoted article does not get.

Attacking people - in any direction or manner - is a surefire way to get one response: defensive and one outcome: closed minds. Saying stupid Donald Trump-worthy nonsense to assuage an imaginary sleight is preposterous. Serena Williams is one of the most well-respected players in the women's game and has been acknowledged as such for a very long time. To focus on physical attributes and stereotypes like "thick" and "hairstyles" and other button pushing phrases is beneath her stature and accomplishment.

If someone wants to get white people to think about racism - especially how pervasive it is and how baked into societal structure it is, then saying inane shit like making lemonade from white people's tears is a sure-fire loser, while recounting the myriad ways the European colonization of the planet harmed indigenous peoples and cultures is far more effective. I won't bother to read the entire quoted article, the excerpt is enough for me; but I DID watch the video and it did make me think.

If the goal is to end racism, then the comedian wins and laps the field.
If the goal is to score a temporary high from an "A-HAH! Take THAT!" stance, then stick with the sophism of the original article by all means, just don't be too shocked when it flat out fails to move the needle or evoke any introspection.

[gollygee]

143. It doesn't look to me like it was written for a white audience. n/t

Also, perhaps you'd appreciate a follow-up article posted downthread: http://verysmartbrothas.com/white-tears-explained-for-white-people-who-dont-get-it/

Sample:

Wow. It’s even more fucked up that, despite all of this evidence of Williams’s treatment, some White people are so in their own feelings that they still find a way to make an acknowledgment of this treatment about their own feelings.

Yup.

Who would have thought a piece about White Tears would have brought out more White Tears?

Was that a rhetorical question?

[Igel]

193. Wouldn't that mean non-whites shouldn't be offended at crap written for a white audience?

No matter what it is?

You don't like the epithets and racism, hey, why'd you look--it's not for you, it's for the Aryan Nation or those who like StormFront. Butt out and don't judge. Respect the "whites only" sign.

Because whites are supposed to respect the "blacks only" sign over that particular fount of, um, information.

Sorry. I don't buy it. Not progressive, not liberal, not (D), not even centrist or moderate (R).

[gollygee]

242. It means it was written to amuse someone else

Not everything is written with us in mind as an audience. We need to get over ourselves more.

[artislife]

356. ^^This nt

[AzDar]

20. Wouldn't know about that... this is DU, and this shit is racist and ugly.

[MattBaggins]

49. Not even remotely

Is is amusing. Tongue in cheek

[eggplant]

68. It is neither. Get a grip.

It basks in the glow of the sadness *actual* racists are suffering, the poor dears.

She kicks ass.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

87. It absolutely is NOT! Just stop this shit.

[heaven05]

48. no, it isn't

don't worry you won't lose any of your privileges anytime soon.

[c588415]

92. I agree, this post is somewhat racist.

Serena is a winner, and she knows that their are those who hate her because of her race and talent. Nevertheless, these hecklers and name callers have yet to hinder Serena from kicking ass and taking names. She is going to the bank, and as a fan, I am happy for her.

[Darb]

254. You haven't a clue what racism is, sorry.

Try again.

The post may have been tasteless, but racism is completely different from contempt.

[whathehell]

355. Try again..

Racism and contempt go hand in hand -- If expressing contempt for a group of people on the basis of their
color isn't racist, I don't know what is.

[CANDO]

369. Yeah really...

I couldn't give two shits who won Wimbledon and yet we white people are all fucking racists because....??? I don't know....just because we're white and some dipshit with a blog says so. Serena, Venus, friggin Neptune! A flying fuck I do not give. Out and out race bait OP if there ever was one. And again aimed at liberals and progressives on DU. I have never seen an OP on DU making the claims about Serena/Venus that this assclown blogger claims(note to alerters, I'm calling the blogger that was C&P an assclown, NOT the OP). I have no doubt there are racists among the professional tennis crowd who feel that way, but here on DU? Really? But of course the entire reason to post this OP was to have the opportunity to pounce on any and all responders who even in the slightest disagree or dare to point out the race baiting. Calling someone a racist for no other reason but their skin color is racism. Pretty fucking sad when they don't realize it.

[Buzz Clik]

288. +1

[yodermon]

294. awww. *lick* *slurp* mmmmm

[malaise]

18. That's why some of them call her

'vile'

Go Serena!! Mad them!!!

[Dont call me Shirley]

22. Proud of you Serena!

[hifiguy]

23. I am sure she laughs all the way to the bank,

her numerous successful business enterprises, and while strolling through her stuffed-to-bursting trophy room. As well she should. What's not to admire about her/

[mcar]

25. Survived an alert 0-7

On Mon Jul 13, 2015, 12:08 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Serena Williams Drinks, Bathes In, And Makes Lemonade With White Tears
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026969528

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Race-baiting. Whether it is the title of the link or not, it is inappropriate. Can you imagine if the title was in reverse talking about a white athlete bathing in black tears? Not okay.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Jul 13, 2015, 12:33 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Seriously? Show me a white female athlete who has been attacked by AfAm people for her appearance and athleticism the way Serena Williams has and you may have a case.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: "Wow. It’s even more fucked up that, despite all of this evidence of Williams’s treatment, some White people are so in their own feelings that they still find a way to make an acknowledgment of this treatment about their own feelings."

http://verysmartbrothas.com/white-tears-explained-for-white-people-who-dont-get-it/

As a Native American its time for white people to come to terms with their white privilege and quit getting so sensitive and turning it around when a minority tells it like it is! NO ONE is race baiting! A white person would never say a "white athlete is bathing in black tears!" WHY? Because its NEVER been an issue!
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Changed my vote after seeing the alerter's explanation. "Race-baiting?" "Reverse" racism? Umm, no. Just no.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The poster just copied and pasted. Discuss, don't alert.


I was juror #2.

[KamaAina]

27. Somebody's heading to alert timeout

[Kingofalldems]

29. It's still race baiting.

[mcar]

31. No, it's really not

[heaven05]

42. NO

it's not. Suck it up, the truth does hurt sometimes, I understand.

[Kingofalldems]

46. What the hell are those smilies supposed to mean?

Say what you mean. Personal attack with smilies. A punk post.

I'll state my opinion, I don't have to suck anything up.

[heaven05]

62. I said what I meant

and meant what I said. I didn't attack anyone or anything. Have a good one...

[Kingofalldems]

67. It was a passive aggressive attack done with smilies,

lame and unprovoked. I will remember it though.

[heaven05]

70. please do

no sweat. Is that a threat to stalk me????? I wonder.

[Kingofalldems]

76. JHC dude. I have not interest in following you.

What a stupid post.

[eggplant]

72. You do that.

The rest of us will just laugh at the great OP.

And no, I would say that (someone) drawing a 0-7 jury when claiming "race baiting" should be enough to put that to rest.

[Kingofalldems]

75. Who said I was the alerter? I wasn't and I didn't.

[eggplant]

80. Nobody said you were the alerter.

But you do seem rather worked up here about nothing.

[Kingofalldems]

96. All I said was I thought the post was race baiting.

The people attacking me are the ones that are worked up.

[eggplant]

113. No, the people here disagreed with you.

As far as I can tell, they've all remained fairly calm during the festivities.

[jeff47]

114. Yeah, you didn't drop any clues when you decided to defend the alert. :eyes:

You doth protest too much, methinks.

Though I do wish 0-7 leave-alone results identified the alerter so we didn't have to rely on you posting.

[Kingofalldems]

130. I can't prove a negative. Just added my 2 cents.

Didn't defend the alert at all. So keep making up insinuations.

Tell you what: If you really think I alerted--contact Skinner, he would know. If I am lying I will leave DU forever. How about you? Put up or shut up.

[truebrit71]

281. Hey, sparky....I was the alerter....I consider it race-baiting...hence my alert...

If a white publication wrote about a white athlete making black people bathe in their own tears they howls of outrage would be deafening....

But sure...white privilege or something...

[whathehell]

144. There's lots of that here..

along with a fair amount of race baiting.

It's usually best to ignore them.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

65. From the person who has a "pro-Hillary" avatar. Just stop! NOW!

[NCTraveler]

247. You are pretty selective.

Did you simply jump over this one?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026969528#post14

[Buzz Clik]

290. It's tone deaf, insensitive, and childish.

Race baiting?

Yeah, that too.

[MattBaggins]

52. To juror number 3

Hal Lee fucking Lou ya

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

97. It was the best wasn't it? n/t

[heaven05]

60. yep

and you should have. What a bunch that can stand the truth. What a bunch. They are afraid...very afraid...

[valerief]

26. I'm not a sports fan, but Williams is terrific! nt

[11 Bravo]

30. I'm a white guy who roots his ass off for Serena ...

every time she takes to the court. Fuck the haters.

[blackspade]

34. Excellent.

I'm shedding white tears from laughing right now.
The OP is a hilarious takedown of white poutrage!

[LittleBlue]

35. Ummmm aren't most of her fans white?

The vast majority of those cheering her at Wimbledon were white. The ones who tune in to watch her and buy her endorsed products are mostly white.

Headline doesn't match reality.

[KamaAina]

36. So are essentially all of her detractors

[heaven05]

39. yes true, yet in

that very same audience you have ones calling her n***** out loud. That's the reality!

[whathehell]

139. LOL

Undoubtedly...but don't tell it those enjoying
imagined "white tears".

[Nitram]

265. I agree.

Why should we honor racists with the suggestion that Serena is trying to prove something to them? She is a lot bigger than that.

[zeemike]

37. What an odd thing to say

The implication of it is that she or someone enjoys the suffering or defeat of others of a different race.
I don't think she does...

Can you imagine it in reverse?...say a white basketball team wins the finals?...what would be said about that?

[KamaAina]

41. The white tears are those of her racist h8rs

not her opponents.

Oh, and the 1980-81 Boston Celtics won the NBA title, by, as an African American comedian pointed out, "confusing everybody by putting five white guys on the court", although they did have Robert Parish coming off the bench.

[zeemike]

51. Who are these racist haters?

I have never heard of them...but I am sure there must be some somewhere.

But never the less it means someone is making it about race not sports...and I find that odd and think it does not show sports in a good light.
Sports should be about the individual not a rece.

[KamaAina]

55. Um, the people yelling the N-word at her from the stands?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026969528#post39

[zeemike]

90. There are things I don't know because I don't watch TV.

But never the less this is not a race sport where one race is pitted against the other.
And the actions of some do not justify it.
That's my opinion like it or not.

[bettyellen]

295. "Race sport" what the hell are you talking about?

[whathehell]

140. Um, do you think any of those are on DU?

[KamaAina]

204. Of course not.

But the article was aimed at them.

[whathehell]

373. Then who was the OP aimed at?

[KamaAina]

376. The many white folks who just don't get it

and all too often surface here as trolls.

[Electric Monk]

377. ...

[whathehell]

378. I think the vast majority of white folks here DO get it

so I view the OP as unnecessary at best, and race baiting at worst.

[KamaAina]

380. Here, perhaps.

IRL, not so much.

[whathehell]

381. DU represents real people

In the Real Wolrld. (IRL)

[KamaAina]

382. If only that were true. Bernie would be the one way up in the polls.

[whathehell]

383. If it's not true, who do you think you are conversing with on this board?

"fake" white people?

I just happen to be a Bernie Supporter, but supporting Hillary

or O'Malley hardly makes one a racist.

[KamaAina]

384. No, part of a subset of white people

that (mostly) actually gets it. But that's all too rare offline. Just yesterday I had a conversation with an African American colleague who grew up in Oakland. He told me that once he came to San Jose, just 40 miles south and still in the allegedly liberal Bay Area, he was shocked that people would see him in Safeway and wonder what he was doing there!

[whathehell]

385. By "subset" you seem to be saying that

Liberal, non-racist white people are a minority...I don't think so..For one thing, DU is

Only ONE of a number of progressive boards, and by that logic, one could as easily say

that Free Republic represents "a subset of white people", don't you think?

I lived in the Bay Area myself, many years ago, so I'm familiar with Safeway.

That being said, I'd have to know more about your friend's experience

to comment on it.

How did he know that people wondered what he was doing there?...Did someone say

something to him? It's hard to draw conclusions without knowing what he actually

experienced.

Whatever the answer, Kaima, I must tell you that I am enjoying this calm, respectful conversation and

I hope you are too.

[spooky3]

170. She's been attacked by racists and sexists for years.

Want evidence? Check out reader comments to any online story about her. Check out how many articles written about her body and how many are written about Roger Federer's body (I'm a recreational player and huge pro tennis fan, and I don't know that I have ever seen an article focused on the aesthetics of Federer's body).

Research the Indian Wells tennis tournament and why she and Venus Williams boycotted it for years in response to racist comments from the crowd and inadequate response from tournament officials.

That's for starters.

[zeemike]

180. And DU is full of it too?

If I wanted to be outraged I could find something on the internet to be outraged about...that is for sure.

Myself I have never seen one of those comments you say are everywhere...but I don't seek them out either.
This world is full of shit but I don't want to play in it. Life's too short to be knee deep in stink all the time.

If you want to change the world change yourself first...and that means stopping the conflict in your own heart...but I wax philosophic now.

[spooky3]

184. So, your reality is to deny reality? You claim

Never to have seen evidence of her being attacked and when I provided very easy access to evidence, you refuse to accept it or even to spend a few minutes investigating. Now you want to move the goalposts. Got it.

[zeemike]

188. I don't deny it exist at all, I know full well it does.

I just don't wallow in it...and spend my life's precious time feeling the warm thrill of anger and indignation.
It's not good for your health and can turn you into a cold bitter person.

[IdaBriggs]

238. Ah, the power to ignore other people's reality and refer to knowledge of it

as "wallowing" - I think that is kind of the definition of "white privilege".

I believe Mrs. Bush, former First Lady, phrased a similar thought:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/barbara.asp

"Why should we hear about body bags and death? It's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?"

[betsuni]

240. I like the "I don't watch TV" defense.

Next time I insist on remaining ignorant of any unpleasant things in my own culture I'll say, "How am I supposed to know about that -- I DON'T WATCH TV!" Life is too short to wallow because that can turn you into a cold bitter ale.

Exactly a Barbara Bush.

[zeemike]

255. The only response acceptable is outrage and anger.

And to not respond to it like I did is itself and offense...that is what I am hearing.
Well I don't play that game so pardon me. And if that is what you call "white privilege" I don't understand the english language.

And the implication that I must be a right winger because Bush war dead... and that is the same as the N word at a tennis match.

[IdaBriggs]

321. I did not say you are a right winger. I said you were quoting one.

And a famous one at that.

Specifically, you first said:

Myself I have never seen one of those comments you say are everywhere...but I don't seek them out either. This world is full of shit but I don't want to play in it. Life's too short to be knee deep in stink all the time.

You were then offered ways to find examples of the racism and abuse this professional athlete has been publicly subjected to, at which point you replied:

I don't deny it exist at all, I know full well it does.

I just don't wallow in it...and spend my life's precious time feeling the warm thrill of anger and indignation.
It's not good for your health and can turn you into a cold bitter person.

And now you think that my pointing out your willful ignoring of bad stuff and then being surprised when other people are upset about it is something that Non-White Folks CAN'T do (hence, you have some white privilege issues) is a game?

You are on a discussion board. Having someone point out your logical fallacies and accidental hypocrisy is NOT the same thing as the N-word at a tennis match. You can hit the "ignore" button, while the subject of the original post "knee deep in stink" every time she goes to work.

No one is asking you to be outraged - DU has outrage du jour - but you are expected to DISAPPROVE OF THE INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR instead of just playing Gas Light with the rest of us.

[zeemike]

326. Well I know I am in a no win discussion here.

No matter what I say it will be used against me in the court of perpetual condemnation.
And the accusations will only grow in intensity the longer I try to speak...it reminds me of the cultural revolution in China under Mao.

But it has to be said...this is race baiting just as sure as if a white basketball team won and someone posted a thread saying they were bathing in the tears of black people.
Race baiting is wrong no matter what race is the target and you would think that all should disapprove of it as inappropriate...but that seems to not be the case.
And anyone not joining in the chorus of voices will stand accused.

So now take these words I typed and turn them against me too...no doubt you will find something about them that confirms your bias.

[IdaBriggs]

357. Some days it does feel like you can't win for losing

Especially here on DU.

Personally, I have more respect for your issue about race-baiting than I did on the "don't want to look at mucky things."

I took it as biting humor designed to point out racial prejudices and I thought it was clever and funny. I am not a sport fan person but I admire and respect those who excel in their field. I am an optimist; I believe we can eventually celebrate diversity. Every hero has a story; I hate when part of it has to include "and then a bunch of nasty people thought being mean was entertaining."

Peace between us.

[zeemike]

360. Peace should be our objective.

And that starts in our own hearts.

But I don't want to celebrate diversity I want it to be ignored and never be an issue again.
Diversity is just another way of saying they are different than us.
I read once in a novel that the devil works by pointing out our differences, and I think that is true.

[gollygee]

364. .

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/culturally-speaking/201112/colorblind-ideology-is-form-racism

[zeemike]

365. Good article.

[IdaBriggs]

366. I am a Star Trek fan and I prefer the IDIC philosophy:

"Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations".

I believe in celebrating our differences; gardens would be dull if all the flowers were the same color, shape and size.

[zeemike]

368. Well it is what makes life interesting and worthwhile.

But no need to celebrate something that is universal and obvious in nature.
I celebrate the good things that we do and have control over...we had nothing to do with nature and can only admire it.

[awoke_in_2003]

267. You're either naive or obtuse. nt

[zeemike]

283. Naive about what?

That some great crime was committed at a tennis match?

I understand perfectly well...and if it annoys you that I don't bathe in the glory of your outrage at this incident then sue me.
I prefer to spend my energy on things that really matter not only to black people but all of us...like war, and economic justice...I prefer to keep my eyes on the prize.

Well I am through with this...it will only get more accusatory and soon I will be the reincarnation of a KKK grand wizard...it is a mistake to try reason when people are so invested in outrage as a sport.

[betsuni]

298. "I'm a sick man ... I am a spiteful man. I am a most unpleasant man.

I think my liver is diseased. Then again, I don't know a thing about my illness; I'm not even sure what hurts. ... No, gentlemen, it's out of spite that I don't wish to be treated. Now then, that's something you probably won't understand. Well, I do. Of course, I won't really be able to explain to you precisely who will be hurt by my spite in this case; I know perfectly well that I can't possibly 'get even' with doctors by refusing their treatment; I know better than anyone that all this is going to hurt me alone, and no one else. Even so, if I refuse to be treated, it's out of spite. My liver hurts? Good, let it hurt even more!"

[zeemike]

299. Well thanks for making my point.

It now has reached the level of accusing me of being a sick man in need of treatment for my illness...and it must be so because I disagree.
Guilty of thoughtcrime...send me to room 101 and put a rat cage on my face.

[betsuni]

301. Dostoevsky, "Notes From Underground." It's a novel.

It just reminded me of you.

[zeemike]

302. And this reminds me of Orwell's 1984

This thread would be the two minute hate...where outrage is put up for us to throw things at the telescreen.
And those who refuse to react in like manner accused of being thought criminals and having a mental sickness and in need of a cure.
There are lots of literary examples in our modern world, and none of them seem to be hopeful...
But as Orwell said, if you want to imagine the future think of a boot stamping on a human face forever.

[betsuni]

305. Well, there are some things I don't know because I don't watch TV.

[zeemike]

309. Well what is it I am supposed to know?

That some crime was committed on the tennis court?...and what was that crime? and more importantly what is the remedy for it?

As I understand it white people were crying over a black woman winning, is that it?
Or was it that someone used the N word...Is that it?
And what is the remedy for that, making it a crime, or just taking out those white people crying or using the N word and shooting them?

Sorry but all of this nonsense only prolongs racism and distracts from our real problems in the world...but I suspect it will continue because so much is invested in it.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

101. You don't get it. This OP *ONLY* pertains to white racists who take delight

in seeing her lose.

Remember when Obama was wiping the "dirt" off his shoulder? That was a metaphor for showing "haters" that he's winning!

We take delight in the fact that Serena is WINNING and showing the haters that she is a winner despite their racism. It does not pertain to ALL white people.

Please stop pretending to be stupid and/or ignorant.

You know damn well what this is about.

Miss me with your feigned outrage.

[zeemike]

146. Well you are in error, I am not outraged.

It is outrage I am talking about and the attempt to flame it up. It is funny to me that you think I should be outraged like you seem to be.

Again, I don't watch TV so I miss all the things I am supposed to be outraged about. I got off that childhood playground long ago.

I adnear to the principles that two wrongs do not make a right.
And if it is wrong to take delight in one it is wrong for all. It is a matter of humility and respect that you don't seem to understand.
But don't worry I can't teach it to you nor would I try.

[whathehell]

150. It might be maybe easier to "get" if it were

worded correctly.

If the term used was "racist tears", rather than

"white' ones, there wouldn't be a problem.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

158. Real the article; it clearly explains what "white tears" are. If that doesn't pertain to YOU, then

there's no reason for the outrage.

Please. Just stop.

[whathehell]

162. If someone here made a remark about "black tears"

and told you not to be offended "if it doesn't pertain to you", my bet is you and most of the AA community here
would still be offended, and, no I'm not going to "just stop" because it makes you uncomfortable to admit it.

[gollygee]

164. I guess I need to post the video again

[whathehell]

175. No, he and the OP just need to say

what they mean

If they mean racists, they should use that

word. If they're broadbrushing White people

they should stick with what they've said.

[gollygee]

178. They can write what they want and what they feel

best communicates their point to their audience. It does not appear that white people are thier audience anyway.

And people who have been victims of racism over and over again seeing someone who has been a victim of racism over and over again dominate a sport that is generally made up almost exclusively of white people makes them laugh at how racist white people, probably even mainly racist white tennis fans like the ones who booed her can called her n*****, must be responding to her incredible performance.

It isn't about you, or me, or any white people. We'll survive the "white tears" internet meme, somehow. Maybe with some more tears, but we'll make it.

[whathehell]

273. No kidding..

but if the the article confuses a message rather

elucidates it, it's a waste of time and space.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

264. Please! Just stop with the condescension. Not working on me at all.

Black people face this shit every single day. We're use to the nonsense you're peddling here.

[whathehell]

269. It's called logic, not condescension

and the "nonsense" you peddle doesn't work well at all.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

344. It is absolutely conscending. All you have to do is read the damned article.

But you sit here and pretend not to understand what the article is clearly saying.

So transparent.

It is YOUR problem, not mine, that you take issue with this article, which his abundantly clear on the subject of "white tears".

That you take offense is YOUR issue. Insulting me and others in this thread doesn't take away the validity of the article, nor does it dry your TEARS!

[whathehell]

354. LOL!

You're funny.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

361. ...laugh it off now. I'm looking forward to more of your white tears as Serena wins AGAIN...

...and as our president continues to succeed where many white folk wants him to fail!

[whathehell]

362. LOL!!!!

My tears are about as white as yours are, honey.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

363. Honey? Are you serious? Not only are you racist, you're a sexist prick!

[whathehell]

371. How am I a racist? What "racist" thing did I say?

You're mindless belligerence runneth over.

[Glassunion]

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[whathehell]

379. You got nothing..

Big surprise.

[mythology]

249. I've always found that to be a really disengenuous and lame defense

Oh if it doesn't apply to you, don't get offended or outraged.

By that logic, I shouldn't get offended if I hear a racial slur directed at somebody of a different race, because that doesn't pertain to me. If I see somebody being physically attacked, but I'm not, it doesn't pertain to me, so I shouldn't get upset. That's where your logic leads.

But then again, I'm not offended by the article. I just think it's stupid and written to attempt to attract attention rather than having something intelligent or thoughtful to say. There's far too much stupid in the world for me to get outraged at an article that really won't have any impact outside of it's small audience.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

263. You're entitled to your opinion. I respectfully disagree.

And I'll repeat again because it appears that reading comprehension is not your greatest strength:

If you are not a white racist, then the OP's article doesn't apply to you.

If you can't understand satire and contextual humor, then I'm not sure what to tell ya.

That's really the bottom line, my friend.

[awoke_in_2003]

268. I think the OP

is hitting too close to home for some. I am disappointed seeing some of the reaction here.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

282. They're pretending not to get it. The fake outrage isn't lost on us who do.

[lib87]

358. Way Too Close

I thought it was obvious the article was talking about those who hate to see her do better than her white female peers in the tennis world solely because she is Black.

I won't even bring up how loudly the crowd was cheering for the loser in that match before she started her losing rally against Serena. I'm sure that was just a coincidence.

[heaven05]

38. I am smiling

She's a hero of mine...strong, intelligent woman. If I was 30 years younger....hmmmm.....

[Cracklin Charlie]

43. This old white lady is Serena's biggest fan!

My sister in law (doesn't even follow tennis) is constantly telling me she hates tennis because there are no Americans in the top ranks.

Dumb bunny can't even figure out that the best women's tennis player ever, Serena Williams, an American, won her first Grand Slam title in 1998, and is still winning majors and ranked number one today. And that's not even to mention that her sister is also an all-time great tennis player.

You go, Serena, enjoy every one of those white tears. Use them to motivate you in the US Open! This old white lady won't miss a minute!

[KamaAina]

45. "hates tennis because there are no Americans in the top ranks."

This is an ongoing topic of discussion over in the Sports group, or as joeybee12 fancies it, the tennis and figure skating group.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/120456370#post2

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

107. White racists have always questioned the Americanism and patriotism of black

Americans. (See MLK, Jr. and Obama for examples.)

We've always been dismissed as Americans, even though many of us risk our lives for this country, serving in the U.S. armed forces, etc.

That's another age-old stereotype.

Many black Americans go out of their way to prove that we are just as patriotic as everyone else.

We fucking helped to build this country!!

[Joe Chi Minh]

323. I love the way mankind throws up so many unpredictably maverick 'nuts',

like a bloke I knew in West Australia, who had been the junior state tennis champion, but hated the game, because he knew, he said, that he could never be world champion.

Likewise Jim Reeves, who has a deep singing voice most men would envy, preferred to sing chirpy songs in a higher register, so his manager had to keep in line in that regard.

Then there was the classic, true anecdote by Henry Cooper: He was driving his brother and manager down a country lane in the pouring rain, and made a great splash as the car went through a puddle. Instinctively, perhaps, he slowed down quite sharply and suddenly realised that a little bloke on a bike had first got soaked by the splash and then had run into the back of the car and fallen in the puddle.

Henry pulled up, lowered his window and apologised to the bloke. Then he said, 'Cor! 'ee didn't half give me a fourpenny one through the open window. Right in the chops! And then he said to Henry, 'You're only brave because you've got your mates wiv yer!' All three were burly six-footers. And Henry said well, he must have been all of eight stone, sopping wet. Which he was! And he ws saying this, of course, to a bloke who would have been, doubtless for a very brief period, the heavy-weight champion of the world, but for Ali's rascally Corner Man.

I also had a school-mate who was top at all sports, but hated cricket, because he found it boring.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

115. Europeans Dominate Men's Tennis

So, yeah, people who follow men's tennis more will complain.

Anyone who heard Serena's comments after defeating Muguruza would be very proud to claim her as an American. Totally classy. The only negatives I've heard about either Williams sister are occasional comments about Venus' tennis attire. She can really get people talking.

[TDale313]

136. One of two things going on with your sister-in-law

Either she's not thinking of Serena as a "Real American" or she's not thinking of Women's Tennis as "Real Tennis" On the Men's side, it's true there aren't a lot of Americans at the top. But you do have Federer, Nadal, Djokovic... Not American but three of the best to ever play Tennis. It's an amazing time in Tennis on the Men's and Women's side. And yes, Serena is absolutely incredible.

[spooky3]

187. She is a dumb bunny :-) . How about the Bryan

Brothers too?

[locdlib]

53. Just so people on this thread who are offended and labeling this as race-baiting:

Remember who started this kkkrap. When white people learn to stay in their lane and stop making crude remarks about Serena, or black people in general, perhaps responses like the one from Very Smart Brothas wouldn't happen.

[KamaAina]

58. In a way, they're proving the article's point.

[JustAnotherGen]

125. I read the article about white tears at their blog!

They crack me up!

From there - who woud have known an article about white tears would cause more white tears!

Thanks for finding this blog. They are now on my list of blogs to visit!

[Number23]

135. There's no "in a way" about it. They have burned 100 calories proving the articles point.

And it's funny as hell.

[NOLALady]

339. I must admit,

I'm reading the outraged responses for comic relief!

[Quayblue]

71. exactly!!!

Be mad at the fucked up ass racists. And notice NO MENTION of correcting the unprovoked hatred shown to Serena! Just fucking wow!

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

102. Yep. It's not lost on us at all that the ones complaining in this thread haven't

said shit about the actual racist statements made against Serena. They're just crying fake-ass tears over the "supposed" racism.

Bullshit! Get the fuck out of here that with feigned outrage nonsense.

Miss me with that bullshit.

[Ex Lurker]

77. "When white people learn to stay in their lane"

and what "lane," is that, exactly? The OP didn't specify people making crude remarks, nor did you. It was just white people in general. And that's race baiting.

[locdlib]

84. If this post has nothing to do with you or others like you, then you should

have no problem with keeping it moving. If you are an intelligent person, you don't need me to explain to you about lanes or crude remarks. But if you mad/offended at this post and my response to it, oh well then . . .

[Ex Lurker]

86. You made my point NT

[locdlib]

93. If that's what you believe . . .

[uponit7771]

106. +1

[heaven05]

57. the vox.com

june 7, 2015. great article, I thought, on exactly this subject.

[cwydro]

59. I'm a long time tennis fan, and I'm white.

I loved the Williams sisters from the minute they came on the scene. Venus is still my favorite, but I love Serena and her ability.

I guess I don't hang out in the places where people denigrate her because no one I know does.

We're all fans.

[Skittles]

157. DITTO

[ProfessorGAC]

328. Best Female Player EVER!

I was always a big Martina fan, but Serena would smoke Martina 19 times in 20. Just more game.

[antiquie]

61. This is what a champion looks like.

?w=1680&h=2332

[mcar]

118. She is just lovely

What a classy woman!

[bvar22]

63. This old white guy is awed by her ability and her beauty.

Anyone who watches her play and does not feel admiration for this great athlete has problems.
While I am not a Tennis fan, I will always stop to watch her play.

[Initech]

66. Pass the butter, it's going to be fun watching the meltdown over Serena.

[JTFrog]

69. Looks like this brought out a bunch of "SJW" haters.

Or MRA's as they are called other places on the internet.

It tickles me as well.

[bigwillq]

73. I love Serena!

I hope she wins the Calendar Slam!

[muriel_volestrangler]

74. What does 'thick' mean here? In the UK, it would be an insult

'Thick' means 'stupid' in British English. "So thick that everybody else in the room is so uncomfortable" would be very insulting, but that doesn't fit with the rest of this.

[KamaAina]

82. Thick-bodied

[foo_bar]

83. I think it's like zaftig/saftig

Thick as in juicy, like the uncanny abyss in the collective male unconscious between "not too fat" and "not skinny":
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=thick

[NewJeffCT]

94. zaftig typically means fat/plump, no?

I think with Serena it's more that she is muscular thick, not fat thick.

[foo_bar]

111. I thought they both meant "plump in the right places"

I think "thick" has a more booty-oriented connotation than zaftig, at least in the context of the author's quotation: http://genius.com/Nicki-minaj-only-lyrics/

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

110. Black American men, primarily, use it to describe black American women--

primarily--as having ample curves and shapely. Not skinny, not fat. Shapely and curvaceous.

Beyoncé in her heavier--non-slender days--would be an example.

Typically a woman who has a larger exterior or butt, thighs, hips. Not fat. She may indeed be very athletic or muscular like Serena.

[bravenak]

227. Sexy. Curves in all the right places. Not skinny.

[MarianJack]

81. For YEARS, Serena was my favorite player!

Now, it's Victoria Azarenka with Serena a close second. I already consider her to be the greatest champion ever. Margaret Court has 3 more slams when the competition was easier. Steffi Graf has 1 more, many of which she gained because one of her nut job fans stabbed Monica Seles, whom routinely manhandled Graf.

I hope Serena wins this year's US Open and completes the calendar year Grand Slam!

PEACE!

[seveneyes]

88. Time for a weeping song

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

112. I love Nick Cave. Good one!

[Solly Mack]

89. K&R

[Gore1FL]

91. I would think the saline and urea would be bad for her health. n/t

[kenfrequed]

95. I think she is beautiful.

She is awesome and she kicks ass! Too many people have images of tennis players being scrawny little things. I am very glad that she can play well and is more concerned with winning than maintaining a particular appearance.

[MisterP]

99. crap, Jezebelitis is spreading

[Perseus]

103. What a nasty post

I like Serena Williams, but I don't have to make it into and insult to any race to make a point that she is the best athlete ever to come out in Tennis, although she still has one more major left in order to match Steffi Graff.

I may be missing the point you are trying to make here, but if Serena was white and you changed all the "white" references to "black", your post would be considered, not only bigoted, but disgusting.

There are many ways to praise someone who truly deserves it without insulting anyone else.

I won’t even get into discussing your choice of words.

[jeff47]

116. :facepalm:

I may be missing the point you are trying to make here, but if Serena was white and you changed all the "white" references to "black", your post would be considered, not only bigoted, but disgusting.

The point sailing over your head is that these attacks are not made against white players. There was not a herd of people saying "She looks like a man!" or "it must be steroids" when the winner was white.

[Skittles]

153. NO ONE likes being stereotyped

NO ONE

[NewJeffCT]

104. The headline is funny

the subject of racism, obviously, is not. (Was I biased against Freepers when I said something about filling a water bottle with the tears of broken hearted freepers?)

I'm a middle aged white guy who thinks Serena is very attractive physically and also a great athlete. I never really saw the appeal of Anna Kournakova or Maria Sharapova from an attractiveness perspective. To be honest, though, I can also say the same about Venus Williams. I never really found her attractive, either. And, there probably have been other tennis players I thought attractive over the years.

But, the times I have watched women's tennis, I really don't watch it for how attractive the women are - I just hope to see a good match, and I typically root for the American if it's one of the big tournaments. (OK, maybe when I was a teenager, I watched women's tennis to also see the attractive women in short skirts, but that was a long time ago now.)

[GoneOffShore]

198. ^This^

[iandhr]

108. Hey I am white in I think

she is f***ing awesome

[Starry Messenger]

109. Looks like she can add a few to the dish from here too.

[GoneOffShore]

121. Sure looks like it.

[Comrade Grumpy]

117. "White Guy KOs Floyd Mayweather, Drinks Toast of Black Tears"

[Nye Bevan]

123. 2011: "Dirk Nowitzki feasts on the black tears of LeBron James".

Really, how productive is this stuff? It's almost as though that blog author is deliberately trying to stir up racial animosity.

[whathehell]

159. Not helpful at all,

but some here are more interested in race baiting, imo.

[GoneOffShore]

197. It's funny stuff.

And if you don't get it....

Well, that's got to be your problem.

And the problem of everyone else who's not getting it.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

[whathehell]

279. lol..

for race baiters, maybe.

The rest of us think the imaginary "outrage" is funnier.

[Darb]

258. Dumb post.

No white guy has laid a glove on Floyd.

[romanic]

120. This is why I'm not a fan of SJW bullshit titles like this

Instead of talking about Serena's (and her sister Venus) success in the face of racism, 2/3 of the thread is back-and-forth ignorance and prejudice amongst each other. We should rise above petty bullshit insults like 'white tears" and "race-baiter" and be happy that a black woman can succeed in a traditionally white sport. JFC people, grow the fuck up!

[petronius]

124. The author provided some elaboration on the concept of "White Tears":

http://verysmartbrothas.com/white-tears-explained-for-white-people-who-dont-get-it/

[gollygee]

145. LOL

Wow. It’s even more fucked up that, despite all of this evidence of Williams’s treatment, some White people are so in their own feelings that they still find a way to make an acknowledgment of this treatment about their own feelings.

Yup.

Who would have thought a piece about White Tears would have brought out more White Tears?

Was that a rhetorical question?

[Spatened]

127. Ahh... Meeting racism with racism...

Great plan...

[Zenlitened]

128. White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard to Talk to White People About Racism

(Note: The author of the article excerpted below originated the term "white fragility." She is white, as am I.

What prompted me to post this? The inevitable -- and exasperating -- defensive reaction from some replying to KamaAina's OP.

Also: The title of the article says "racism." I'd argue it ought to say "race," period. Because too, too many of us just can't handle it AT ALL when the topic comes up. It's ridiculous.)

White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard to Talk to White People About Racism

APRIL 9, 2015 BY DR. ROBIN DIANGELO

...Our socialization renders us racially illiterate. When you add a lack of humility to that illiteracy (because we don’t know what we don’t know), you get the break-down we so often see when trying to engage white people in meaningful conversations about race...

...Most whites have a very limited understanding of racism because we have not been trained to think in complex ways about it and because it benefits white dominance not to do so. Yet, we have no compunction about debating the knowledge of people who have thought complexly about race. Whites generally feel free to dismiss these informed perspectives rather than have the humility to acknowledge that they are unfamiliar, reflect on them further, or seek more information...

...The antidote to white fragility is on-going and life-long, and includes sustained engagement, humility, and education.

I say give it a try. Costs us nothing, really. And it's actually pretty painless, only stings for a little while.

Link:
http://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/white-fragility-why-its-so-hard-to-talk-to-white-people-about-racism-twlm/

[JustAnotherGen]

129. Kick and rec for laughter! n/t

[Tree-Hugger]

131. Personally, I am outraged

Because my biceps do not look like that. Gotta keep hitting the weights.

I am a white person™ and I am not offended by the title. I see the point they are trying to make.

I am not a fan of tennis, but I am aware of Serena. From what I have seen and learned, I think she is an admirable person.

[betsuni]

132. I have lots of tissues. Here, pass them upthread. For the white tears.

The tears of those who use "SJW" as an insult are sweetest.

[Number23]

134. "The tears of those who use "SJW" as an insult are sweetest."

Last edited Mon Jul 13, 2015, 08:03 PM - Edit history (1)

Ain't that the fucking truth.

Here's my contribution to the thread:

Edit: This image is one of many. The White Tears meme is alive and well on social media. It is not derogatory but merely reactive in the face of racism.

And my only issue with the OP is that the idea that Serena only appeals to black men and has them fighting over her is way off. She appeals to most men that ain't scared of a woman with a woman's body. I'll never forget when she showed up on David Letterman in this dress:



Letterman almost wet his pants.

[romanic]

137. You're really adding to the majurity of this thread. /sarcasm

This is why we can never discuss race on here and why some white members on here use the "SJW" insult, because the whole "white tears" meme causes it. So congrats for being immature. *golf clap*

[Number23]

141. I've seen enough of your posts to say, from the bottom of my heart,

If what I've posted upsets you, PLEASE believe I am beyond fine with that.

In fact, I'm dancing up a fucking storm.



Anyone who thinks that the SJW insults and the "race baiting" insults and the "race card" insults -- which have been around forever -- are a result of the White Tears meme -- which has been around for a hot minute -- is really not worth the trouble.

[SunSeeker]

222. LOL. But Serena does a better dance ...

(There used to be a tradition that the men's and women's Wimbledon Champs would dance at the Champions' Dinner. But they stopped doing that in 1975. At this year's Champion's Dinner, Serena and Novak Djokovic brought back the tradition, with Serena picking "Night Fever" as the song they danced to. Perfection!)

[TeeYiYi]

226. I couldn't agree more...

TYY

[Number23]

232. That's awesome! Not a Novak fan but that is really cool

Thanks for that!

[bravenak]

235. You are such a hater.

[betsuni]

138. Love that gif! Just what this thread needed.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

160. That dress! Most women only DREAM to be able to get in that dress! And that meme is one of the

greatest I've ever seen.

Simply brilliant!!

[gollygee]

163. Wow, she looks amazing!

Anyone making fun of her looks is ridiculous. She is a strong, powerful, and beautiful woman.

[SunSeeker]

236. That red dress pic was used in a brilliant tweet by J.K. Rowling:

Technically Incorrect: A man opines that Wimbledon champion Serena Williams looks like a man. The Harry Potter author decides to sock him. And tens of thousands approve.

http://www.cnet.com/news/jk-rowlings-putdown-of-serena-williams-twitter-troll-gets-big-retweets/

[Number23]

237. Sweet Georgia Brown... that ASS!!!!!!

[Jamaal510]

239. Someone is going to be on an alert timeout:

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[awoke_in_2003]

274. I've seen "alert timeout" twice-

Is there such a thing? I hope there is, because some really abuse it.

[Number23]

345. DU tumbles further into oblivion by the second. But between this alert as well as the hidden

spewing, half literate, psychotic post right above ours, the juries at least got these right this time.

[awoke_in_2003]

272. It gives me the vapors

She is a beauty.

[Number23]

346. She REALLY is.

Don't know if you've seen her Vogue cover or not. I personally don't think it does her justice but she still looks great

[roody]

147. Whitey here says K & R.

[gollygee]

148. Most entertaining thread ever.

http://verysmartbrothas.com/white-tears-explained-for-white-people-who-dont-get-it/

Wow. It’s even more fucked up that, despite all of this evidence of Williams’s treatment, some White people are so in their own feelings that they still find a way to make an acknowledgment of this treatment about their own feelings.

Yup.

Who would have thought a piece about White Tears would have brought out more White Tears?

Was that a rhetorical question?

[Number23]

149. It's threads like this that really show DU's age and really unfortunate lack of diversity.

The White Tears meme has been around for a while. On most liberal web site, it's a source of genuine humor and understanding of the role of white privilege and an acknowledgement that the roles have FINALLY been reversed, if only a little bit.

The fact that it is a source of such angst and wailing on DU is very telling. Like I said, on most liberal web sites, it's seen as humorous. I guess emphasis needs to be on LIBERAL.

[betsuni]

174. I was thinking the same thing.

I can't think of any liberal web sites where people don't know this meme and think it's funny. If I come across something I don't know about, like a meme the kids are using (which happens a lot because I'm kind of old) I look it up. I have a computer machine right in front of my face. And what is it with the right-wing "SJW" and "race-bating" and "race card" language, and the stubbornness. But then, I spend most of my time on liberal web sites where only trolls do that.

[Number23]

176. "what is it with the right-wing "SJW" and "race-bating" and "race card" language"

But then, I spend most of my time on liberal web sites where only trolls do that.

Don't think for a second that's not what's going on here as well.

[betsuni]

275. But at least trolls on liberal sites are trolling for fun.

What goes on here isn't fun. This isn't a liberal web site.

[lib87]

375. Agreed. There are alway Threads Like this...

that remind me of a dear older liberal White male friend of mine explaining (what I already knew) that there's still plenty of racism and sexism within some White liberal communities. Sad but I hold out hope they change.

[Skittles]

152. maybe NO ONE likes to be stereotyped

maybe THAT'S what it is

[gollygee]

154. The authors explain the "white tears" thing to white people in the link on the post you just

replied to.

But beyond that, I don't think the article was written for a white audience. Not everything is written for us. And I don't think I'll have trouble finding a job, or getting a loan, or getting my kids into whatever school I want to get them into because of a "white tears" joke.

[Skittles]

155. that's why I said UGLY HEADLINE

and no I don't think everything is WRITTEN FOR ME

[gollygee]

161. It just seemed funny to me.

She's put up with a ridiculous amount of racism, and those racists are watching her dominate women's tennis. The headline is a hilarious reaction to that.

[Skittles]

169. "racist tears" - now THAT makes sense

[gollygee]

173. "White tears" is kind of an ongoing internet meme

and it does mean "racist tears."

[Skittles]

177. yet one sounds like stereoptyping, and the other does not

DONE HERE

[Starry Messenger]

165. I had a post hidden months ago for posting a male tears gif.

People here need to get out on the information superhighway more.

[gollygee]

167. I remember that!

Yes they do.

[Skittles]

151. ugly headline

I am white and I am a longtime-fan of the Williams sisters....YES I KNOW THE POINT but it is still an ugly headline

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

166. I really think that you'll understand the gist if you'll read the article, then read the follow-up

piece. You will understand. Trust me. I've seen your responses to race-related threads, and you appear to be a fair and reasonable person. Just read and come back.

[Skittles]

168. I did read the article

I read all things "Williams Sisters" - I have always admired them very much

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

179. I was referring to the "white tears" concept.

[MrScorpio]

156. Damn Skippy! nt

[spooky3]

172. She needs only a few more Slam (major) championships

To be the all time leader. Go Serena!

[gollygee]

182. OK now I've discovered the "white tears" meme on Tumblr

Come on, this is funny stuff!

[davidn3600]

186. I don't agree

I don't think a black athlete winning does anything to shed racism nor does it upset white people these days. Donald Sterling owned a NBA team full of African Americans. A lot of a NBA and NFL fans are racist too but will root on a black QB as long as he wins for their team.

[cstanleytech]

189. Grats to Williams as she more than earned this win and anyone who says otherwise needs to grow up.

The white tears part though is over the top and imo is just as offensive as if some idiot was to have written (insert name here) Drinks, Bathes In, And Makes Lemonade With Black Tears if Williams had lost.

[eridani]

195. You left out the part about microwaving kittens

[SunSeeker]

200. K & R

[Spitfire of ATJ]

203. There was a time when white people in the USA embraced Jesse Owens....

Now too many of them act like the "Master Race" in 1936.

[KamaAina]

205. And Joe Louis.

Did you know? Our very own MrScorpio is a relative.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

209. Let's hope a relative of Max Schmeling isn't here too.

[KamaAina]

210. I imagine he's been tombstoned by now.

[awoke_in_2003]

276. Max and Joe became good friends. nt

[Spitfire of ATJ]

303. I take it Max was never into Hitler worship.

[awoke_in_2003]

304. I don't think he was...

He was more of a pawn in that game. I believe he even helped out Joe financially later in life.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

306. That would have pissed off 'ol Schicklgruber.

[mwooldri]

207. Hate the title, love the result.

By the way, where is the next Arthur Ashe?

[KamaAina]

208. I believe it is she.

There was a fellow named James Blake, from my hometown of Fairfield, CT (!), but he has not been heard from in ages.

[spooky3]

310. He retired from the ATP tour several years ago but sometimes plays on the seniors tour and sometimes

does commentary for The Tennis Channel.

[cilla4progress]

211. Love this!

I hope she lets those nasty jealous white tears roll right off her strong, beautiful, muscled woman's
back!

[AtheistCrusader]

213. My only problem with the headline is

'White' people aren't the only demographic that will yell racist shit at a person like Williams.

And then we have the sexist horseshit, which comes from every goddamn direction all day long, regardless of the race of the person slinging it.

I'm glad she seems capable of taking it, and excelling. Perhaps she'll destroy enough ceilings on gender and race that my child's generation won't have to have this ridiculous fucking debate.

[alcibiades_mystery]

214. Ooooooooo, they mad.

[ibegurpard]

218. love her!

Hope she goes all the way!

[7962]

220. I'm rooting for the Americans. I dont care what color he or she is!

[PBass]

228. Muscles are not gender-specific. They are gender neutral.

Many people have been conditioned over time to believe that muscularity is solely a masculine trait, but that belief is incorrect.

[merrily]

230. She is a phenom. People who enjoy watching tennis are actually

lucky to be able to see her.

[Telcontar]

231. How many rednecks watch tennis?

Sorry, but I just think this is a load of BS. I haven't heard a thing except she won the championship again, and in more news....

[lunasun]

234. why are you assuming all racist identify as rednecks or fit that stereotype? also see post 233

[Turin_C3PO]

325. Rednecks are far from the only racists.

I've known many, many, people who are racist who do not fit fit the redneck level. When I lived in Oxford, MS, the moneyed people were some of the most hateful. I also knew some non-racist "rednecks" for that matter.

[lunasun]

233. This is a race affirming OP article . Racist? The article is reacting to all the racism heaped on

her along with all the stereotyping the haters do so well
IMO the authors used a good check list to shout down the negativity

A video is posted here at least twice in this thread to no avail

The comments here were much more outrageous than the article's Serena shout out to haters after her win so I am replying to the DU comments more than the link because that is what stirred me up not the OP

6 wins at Wimbledon, and becomes the oldest Grand Slam champ in the Open era and with all the name calling instead of hooray hooray from a segment of our society who yes is white. They are not in her court even if she is an American win

If my favorite Trump insult includes the adjective blonde in it along with some nasty words am I insulting all blondes??
don't be vain
They state "There is a particular type of person who will read that last paragraph and become very angry. Whose soul is nicked with every one of her victories."

I have seen it before with Tiger Woods when he was on top winning absolute hatred and Sammy Sosa with White Cub fans cheering on Mark McGuire from another team, White first Cub fans second . Of course not all and this OP link is not addressing all either
some white people still do not get that the hatred of a black man winning the presidency is why Obama has racial slurs made about him years after the win much more than his politics or the constitution bs imo
Some whites really can not stand to see Blacks be #1 or win ......anything really , in fact any race not white win anything
Plus that is false logic too the comments that if you haven't seen any Serena hate then it must not exist
or I love Serena and am White so I am offended why would you be?

[davidn3600]

250. Why is it suddenly breaking news that Serena won a major?

She's been doing this for over a decade and only now it's causing "white tears?"

One thing I am thankful for is being able to watch sports and not have to root for or against someone because of their skin color. Apparently we got conservatives and liberals that still do that.

[KG]

244. the amount of white butt-hurt in the thread:

[Orrex]

246. Ain't that the fucking truth!

I think that the article is terrific. If Borowitz had written it, it would have 500 recs and would spend the next three days on DU's front page.

[malaise]

251. What I posted on another thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6971938

[Smarmie Doofus]

257. Silly , trivial, gratuitously racist bullshit.

As a party we should be looking for ways to reach out in multiple demographic directions.... as opposed to finding ways to alienate people.

And we wonder why we've 1. lost the House; 2. lost the Senate; 3. are on the verge of losing the presidency.

Duh.

[gollygee]

259. 1. gerrymandering 2. gerrymandering

3.no we aren't.

[Darb]

261. I think your definition of racism is wrong.

The title was offensive to many. But not as offensive as the racism experienced by Serena by a long, long shot. Check the definition of racism nest time before you throw it out there.

[Logical]

266. Lol, what a silly post! Nt

[awoke_in_2003]

277. At least you picked an appropriate screen name. nt

[yodermon]

289. *mmm, salty*

[awoke_in_2003]

260. K&R

Lots of DUers getting their panties in a wad over this OP. It must be hitting close to home.

[oasis]

270. Tee hee hee

[gollygee]

278. OK everyone, if you are not producing tears over SW's success . . .

then obviously it isn't about you.

[kentuck]

280. Wonder Woman!

[Tarc]

285. To those whining about "race baiting"

Sorry, but not everything in the universe revolves around the white point-of-view. Try watching "The Nightly Show" sometime, and key into the fact that it isn't really aimed at you.

[Buzz Clik]

292. LOL! Same argument as the Battle Flag is "Southern heritage."

[Buzz Clik]

287. The title of that article is some racist shit.

Duh.

That's the point, right?

[jalan48]

296. I like Serena and her sister Venus but I also like some of the Russian players.

How could you not like Anna Kournikova?

[Sheldon Cooper]

297. Thanks for yet another informative and humorous thread.

As a white woman, I whole heartedly endorse this OP, and also thanks for introducing me to verysmartbrothas. I'd never heard of him and it looks like he lives in Pittsburgh, like I do! I'll be watching for more of him.

[KamaAina]

312. Bazinga!

[WillowTree]

311. She's a beautiful, talented young woman who's winning tournaments all over the world. Why so angry?

I don't get it.

[Joe Chi Minh]

314. God showed he had mean sense of humour when he gave people of African

ethnicity a physicality and athleticism to die for, first dominating the blue-collar and absolute top sporting prize - the vast majority of the heavy-weight boxing champions of the world; then thought, maybe it's time to rub the white-collar racists' noses in the mire, and have them regularly powered off the court in the big tennis championships, at the hands of two A-A sisters.

[KamaAina]

318. Indeed She did.

[KamaAina]

317. This is officially my biggest thread ever

Mahalo (thank you)!

[madinmaryland]

347. This roid stuff is old. We had that argument over in the Sports Group eight years ago. BARROID!!

[GoCubsGo]

359. This old white lady loves her.

As well as her sister. And, I don't even like tennis.