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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGuardian comment sections shows that UK citizens do not trust the US anymore.
Check out the oldest comments in this Guardian story and decide for yourself how the UK and EU see us. The thumb up post counts that are anti-US are massive compared to the opposite that are pro-US. Should the US be worried we are losing the propaganda war because Europeans are misguided or are we losing it because Europeans see through our lies and have grown tired of them?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/09/russia-is-biggest-threat-to-american-national-security-says-us-air-force-chief
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)LOL.
Never take comment sections seriously.
Anyways.....
Putin has a paid army of trolls...
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/08/the-kremlins-troll-army/375932/
Sunk in Tupelo
(66 posts)You may want to read some of those comments. Their english is impeccable. Here's some examples.
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As Eisenhower stated before he left office in 1960..."The greatest threat to the United States is the growing military industrial complex".
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SchraderBrau greeceisallofus 2d ago
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In the past week they have identified the Russians, the Muslims and the Chinese as the biggest threat to the United States. I guess you can add Mexicans, Commies and Liberals to that list too.
Sounds well paranoid when you are worried that, roughly speaking, half of humanity is out to get you.
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Jonathan Stromberg greeceisallofus 2d ago
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Except that the US army intends to cut its ranks by 40,000 personnel within two years. Keep in mind that this is after numerous base closures in Europe over the past few years. Prior to Putins little adventure in Ukraine, the US had about 30,000 military personnel in all of Europe, none of which were stationed in the new NATO members that border Russia. Many of those people were logistical personnel dealing with missions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Remember how recently US leaders were talking about returning heavy armor units to Europe? Yeah, returning because they havent been there for some time.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Ever follow a story about Obama or black people on yahoo news, or other websites like you tube?
So many of the comments are incredibly racist. In many cases, almost every comment is racist.
What does it mean?
It just means the most strident trolls want to have their voices heard.
Trolls will be trolls.
Sunk in Tupelo
(66 posts)that pop up on the front of the Yahoo search engine between Kardashian "news" flashes is a bit rich, don't ya think? Maybe you could give me YOUR assessment of how you perceive Guardian readers.
msongs
(67,703 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)I read a lot of sources actually.
I rarely read the comment sections of articles anymore because I've come across so much racist filth that I've determined it's no longer worth it.
I prefer to read the article and think for myself....then move on.
Sunk in Tupelo
(66 posts)worldwidelifetime 2d ago
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It sounds like Dr. Strangelove never retired.
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fairandreasonabletoo worldwidelifetime 2d ago
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The conveyor belt at West Point ensures theres always a Dr Strangelove around.
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worldwidelifetime fairandreasonabletoo 2d ago
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Surely. we "must not allow a mine shaft gap."
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greeceisallofus 2d ago
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Leading german think tank analysis paper from 2009 shows the US was gearing up for the Ukrainian coup long ago. http://www.imi-online.de/2009/01/01/imperial-geopolitics/
IMI-Analyse 2009/013, in: IMI/DFG-VK: Kein Frieden mit der NATO
Imperial Geopolitics: Ukraine, Georgia and the New Cold War between NATO and Russia
von: Martin Hantke | Veröffentlicht am: 1. Januar 2009
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Zbigniew Brzezinskis book The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives is essential reading for anyone wishing to understand current and future U.S., EU and NATO policy. Over ten years ago the former National Security Advisor gave a graphic description of the imperatives of imperial geopolitics. He argued that the U.S.A.s position of supremacy should be preserved under all circumstances. To this end NATO, acting as a bridgehead of the U.S.A., should expand into Eurasia and take control of geostrategically important regions so as to prevent Russias resurgence as a powerful political force.
Brzezinski had in mind two countries or regions in particular: Ukraine, a new and important space on the Eurasian chessboard is a geopolitical pivot because its very existence as an independent country helps to transform Russia. Without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be a Eurasian empire. Russia without Ukraine can still strive for imperial status, but it would then become a predominantly Asian imperial state, more likely to be drawn into debilitating conflicts with aroused Central Asians, who would then be supported by their fellow Islamic states to the south. [
] However, if Moscow regains control over Ukraine, with its 52 million people and major resources as well as access to the Black Sea, Russia automatically again regains the wherewithal to become a powerful imperial state, spanning Europe and Asia.1 Brzezinski argued further that there was an imperative need to gain control of the southern Caucasus, i.e. Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia, on Russias southern flank. The past master of U.S. geopolitics set out the aim and purpose of NATO policy with impressive clarity: The United States and the NATO countries while sparing Russias self-esteem to the extent possible, but nevertheless firmly and consistently are destroying the geopolitical foundations which could, at least in theory, allow Russia to hope to acquire the status as the number two power in world politics that belonged to the Soviet Union.
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Confess greeceisallofus 2d ago
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You might enjoy this read:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Next_100_Years
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fairandreasonabletoo greeceisallofus 2d ago
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Russia is already back there in the minds of many
..its why America is now shimmying around with Iran
.much to the dismay of Israel LOL
Eurasia will pivot on a Russia-Iran-India-China axis
..on the 50-100 year strategic level Pax Americana is finished and 50 years is not a long time either
Rumsfeld and Bush Snr both served in WW2 .
I would go as far as to say America will resemble Argentina economically in around 25 years
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Just an opinion
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Flemishgirl greeceisallofus 2d ago
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I'm confused now: wasn't Venezuela the biggest threat to the US?
Mr. Putin: 'Keep calm and patient, please, for the sake of humanity'!
PS: I'm not getting payed.
delrem
(9,688 posts)I can be 100% sure that you support Hillary Rodham Clinton.
You guys are all the same.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)So it wouldnt surprise me.
We've spied on our allies...Germany, France, etc. We've even listened in on Merkel's personal telephone calls. Putin troll army isn't responsible for that.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)You're right. The U.S. isn't very popular, but that has more to do with the way we throw our weight around on the world stage militarily.
The U.S. was unpopular long before revelations of NSA of spying against Merkel.
My only point was that comment sections aren't to be taken seriously.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,274 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)sane person trust the US?
daredtowork
(3,732 posts)Sunk in Tupelo
(66 posts)To be honest I haven't picked up a US newspaper in a decade. I cut my cable 9 years ago too. Went Netflix and internet only. Been one of the best financial and braincell saving decisions I ever made.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,274 posts)Internationally, the global median of public perception of the US was 69 per cent favorable and 24 per cent unfavorable. The US airstrikes in Iraq and Syria against IS fighters drew 62 per cent support and 24 per cent opposition.
Those numbers were in stark contrast to the US invasion of Iraq in 2003, which was generally viewed unfavorably abroad. But the US scored less favorably when people were questioned about what Pew called "the harsh interrogation methods used against suspected terrorists in the wake of 9/11 that many consider torture".
A median of 50 per cent of global respondents felt the use of such tactics were not justified, compared to 58 per cent of respondents in the US who felt the methods were warranted.
The use of torture was laid bare in a 2014 US Senate report about the interrogation of Al-Qaeda suspects following the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. People around the world generally supported US President Barack Obama, with a median of 65 per cent having confidence in the second-term leader. The Pew report found people in Asia generally supportive of his plan to commit more military resources to the area.
http://www.newindianexpress.com/world/Global-Publics-Support-US-and-Fight-Against-IS-Poll/2015/06/24/article2884136.ece
Tarheel_Dem
(31,274 posts)Americans and Europeans Views Sour Dramatically
July 9, 2014
As the European Union considers further sanctions on Russia for its role in the standoff in Ukraine, Russia is broadly unpopular in many countries around the globe and increasingly disliked in Europe and the United States. President Vladimir Putins leadership also continues to inspire little confidence worldwide, according to a new Pew Research Center survey. The former Cold War powers negative global image contradicts Russians expectations that Putins actions in Ukraine would improve their countrys international reputation.
Across the 44 countries surveyed, a median percentage of 43% have unfavorable opinions of Russia, compared with 34% who are positive.
Americans and Europeans in particular have soured on Russia over the past 12 months. More than six-in-ten in Poland, Germany, Italy, Spain, France, the U.S. and the UK have an unfavorable image of Russia. And in all but one of these countries negative reviews are up by double digits since last year, including by 29 percentage points in the U.S., 27 points in Poland, 24 points in the UK and 23 points in Spain. Greeks stand out among their European counterparts just 35% dislike Russia, virtually unchanged from last year.
Russia is increasingly disliked in many Latin American countries, though the change has not been as dramatic as in the U.S. and Europe. And while, on balance, most publics hold negative views of Russia, substantial percentages have no opinion. More than four-in-ten in Brazil, Venezuela, Chile and Mexico give Russia unfavorable ratings. Significant increases in Russias unpopularity since last year occurred in Venezuela, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, El Salvador and Mexico.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/07/09/russias-global-image-negative-amid-crisis-in-ukraine/
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SidDithers
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