General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis guy ... this is the guy. Raise a cold one to him today - or a fine glass of vin d'Auvergne...
The young Marquis de Lafayette wears the uniform of a major general of the Continental Army. Painting by Charles Willson Peale
Lafayette, was a French aristocrat and military officer who fought for the United States in the American Revolutionary War. A close friend of George Washington, Alexander Hamilton, and Thomas Jefferson, Lafayette was a key figure in the French Revolution of 1789 and the July Revolution of 1830.
...
Born in Chavaniac, in the province of Auvergne in south central France, Lafayette came from a wealthy landowning family. He followed its martial tradition, and was commissioned an officer at age 13. He became convinced that the American cause in its revolutionary war was noble, and travelled to the New World seeking glory in it.
The birthplace of Lafayette in Chavaniac, Auvergne
...
He served with distinction in the Battle of Rhode Island. In the middle of the war, he returned home to lobby for an increase in French support. He again sailed to America in 1780, and was given senior positions in the Continental Army. In 1781, troops in Virginia under his command blocked forces led by Cornwallis until other American and French forces could position themselves for the decisive Siege of Yorktown.
Lafayette wounded at the battle of Brandywine
John Ward Dunsmore's depiction of Lafayette (right) and Washington at Valley Forge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_du_Motier,_Marquis_de_Lafayette
Omaha Steve
(99,805 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)Happy Independence Day, DUers!
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)shot in his time by everyone who knew him (they had to eat and couldn't waste bullets) raised a militia from Pennsylvania and came to the army to help. He was at Valley Forge the winter that everyone including Lafayette was there and during a famous Christmas dinner there, was one of the 16 invited guests.
As the intertubes describe:
"Although Loveland Ohio was named after the first Postmaster and early shopkeeper James Loveland, the areas first settler was Colonel Thomas Paxton. Born in Pennsylvania in 1739, Paxton moved to Kentucky in 1790. After having the opportunity to observe the beauty of the Little Miami River landscape, Paxton travelled North and in 1795 settled in the area now known as Loveland.
During the Revolutionary War, Thomas Paxton served as Lieutenant Colonel of the Second Battalion of the Bedford County Militia. In 1777, Thomas Paxton ate Christmas dinner at Valley Forge with General George Washington and other illustrious military personnel, such as the Marquis de Lafayette, General von Steuben and Alexander Hamilton."
GO, GRANDPA!
Happy 4th to all. From an accidental participant to someone else's glory, RV
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)though I don't often admit it.
tavernier
(12,410 posts)Lovely place!
😄
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)tavernier
(12,410 posts)Sadly, I believe it was named after a distant relative of his, though.
Happy 4th., anyway!
sarge43
(28,946 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)...
And today, the cheers going up in the Bay of New York in praise of Hermione, might also be intended for the French king, beheaded by a Revolution which in time helped the Republicans to build their ideal.
More here in an interesting piece (but in French):
http://www.lepoint.fr/monde/4-juillet-avec-l-hermione-c-est-louis-xvi-que-l-on-celebr
treestar
(82,383 posts)I didn't know he was at the Battle of the Brandywine. I should have, since I live near there.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Thanks to the French for fighting their own Revolution against their King and nobility and for the Statue of Liberty.
Hand in hand, we changed the world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Liberty
Thanks most of all to our ancestors who fought in that war and stuck with the fight until they finally really won after the War of 1812.
A lot of people like to say that those who lead the Revolution were actually oligarchs. They were well educated in many cases, but within the system of the time, they were not the nobility. Lafayette was a nobleman, but Jefferson, Adams and other leaders of our rebellion were not a part of the British nobility by any means at the time. They were upper middle class at best. They owned land, and Jefferson, for example, owned slaves, but they were not part of the ruling nobility of England at that time. Had they been, we would not have had our Revolution.
Many of us have ancestors who fought in the Revolutionary War. We owe a huge debt to them. Some went as teenagers. Let's don't forget the service of all who fought in that tumultuous time.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)We inspired each other - couldn't have one without the other.
The American Revolution could never have happened without the French Enlightenment, and the French Revolution took the American one for their muse.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)France supporting our efforts. VIVA LA FRANCE!
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)See this piece about Louis XVI bankrolling the Yankee rebels:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026938292
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)they were bankrolling us, too
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)philosophical underpinning.
SCantiGOP
(13,874 posts)We'd all be speaking English, instead of American
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)language had already diverged from its British roots over 150 years in a new land, with new surroundings, new experiences and new necessities.
SCantiGOP
(13,874 posts)"Like they do in Canada, eh?"
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)mrmpa
(4,033 posts)in the US, where he stood. 1. In Savannah on the terrace where he stood and spoke to the people upon his return to the US, and at the Neville House in Pittsburgh where he met with General Neville.
Also I would like to thank:
Tadeusz Kościuszko
Portrait by Karl Gottlieb Schweikart. Kościuszko is shown wearing the Eagle of the Society of the Cincinnati, awarded to him by Gen. Washington
A Pole who helped the Continental Army attain discipline and strategy.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Whipped that Colonial rabble into shape! LOL!
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)I love this man.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)On 20 June 1791, a plot, dubbed the Flight to Varennes, almost allowed the king to escape from France. As leader of the National Guard, Lafayette had been responsible for the royal family's custody. He was thus blamed by extremists like Danton for the near-escape and called a traitor to the people by Robespierre.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_du_Motier,_Marquis_de_Lafayette#Conflict_and_
JustAnotherGen
(31,977 posts)The letter to Washington in 1791 where he writes of being pelted with both rain and snow came from Flemington.
SCantiGOP
(13,874 posts)Small stone marker that I had probably passed hundreds of times in a parking lot at the corner of Gervais and Marion downtown. Said LaFayette stayed several weeks in a house that used to be there. Don't remember the date but it was after the war, 1790's I believe.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)He would be remembered more often if his name were easier for us to spell.
Thanks.
mrmpa
(4,033 posts)named for him (actually an alley). I drive for Uber & many a time I've had a pick up or drop off there. Most of the residents of the alley are Duquesne University students. They have a hard time pronouncing the name of the street they live on. i've given them a lesson on pronunciation and the importance of the General. I tell them that there is a statue honoring him at West Point.
Paka
(2,760 posts)Thank you for this reminder.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)JEB
(4,748 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Makes the French part of me see red!
JEB
(4,748 posts)of Freedom Fries and pouring French wine in the gutter. Ignorant phucks.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)calimary
(81,550 posts)And don't forget the "freedom fries."
GOD that phase in our recent history made me GAG!!!! Made me feel embarrassed to be an American. "Freedom fries" forcryingoutloud. Jesus, Mary, and Joseph...
Uncle Joe
(58,473 posts)Thanks for the thread, Surya Gayatri.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,473 posts)Peace to you.
Little_Wing
(417 posts)Great post! Carry on
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Loved everything there when I visited Paris and Lyon back in '03.
Lafayette played a major role in the success of the American Revolution.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)the Colonials' goose was nearly cooked. Running out of money and materiel, morale in the ranks sinking day by day.
The war would have dragged on for several more disastrous years, with more and more 'rebels' gradually filtering back to the English camp.
A truce would ultimately have been signed, with the Colonies remaining as a British 'protectorate'.
It's not for nothing that the nascent Colonial government spent so much of its limited resources to send its emissaries to the French court.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)in gold. The French didn't think much of the smart but stiff-necked John Adams but Franklin charmed the French court on a grand scale. One of the many reasons he is my favorite Founding Father. Incredibly smart, shrewd and practical.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)kwassa
(23,340 posts)Battle of Yorktown.
Admiral De Grasse and the French fleet defeated the British navy at the Battle of the Cheasapeake, which meant British commander General Cornwallis could neither be reinforced, nor evacuated.
General Rochambeau commanded 7,800 French troops in the battle of Yorktown, under the higher command of General George Washington. There were 8000 Continental army troops and 3100 militia in addition.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)denigrate them as 'surrender' monkeys.