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Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 07:18 PM Jul 2015

The End of the Death Penalty?

Recent Supreme Court opinions suggest there are five votes to abolish capital punishment.

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Henry Lee McCollum, left, and his half-brother, Leon Brown, are shown in booking photos provided by the North Carolina Department of Public Safety in Raleigh, North Carolina, on Sept. 2, 2014. The two men spent years on death row before being exonerated last year.


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On the surface, the Supreme Court’s opinion in Glossip v. Gross appears to give death penalty proponents something to celebrate. After all, the court allowed states to continue to use the sedative midazolam as part of a multidrug formula for lethal injections, despite Justice Sonia Sotomayor’s warning that such executions “may well be the chemical equivalent of being burned at the stake.” But the bitterly divided 5–4 opinion has implications that extend far beyond the narrow question. This case may become an example of winning a battle while losing the war.

In a dissent, Justices Stephen Breyer and Ruth Bader Ginsburg concluded that it is “highly likely” that the death penalty violates the Eighth Amendment’s prohibition on cruel and unusual punishments. While acknowledging that the Supreme Court settled the constitutionality of the death penalty 40 years ago, Breyer wrote that the “circumstances and the evidence of the death penalty’s application have changed radically since then.”

They are not the first sitting justices to call capital punishment’s constitutionality into question. Justices Thurgood Marshall and William Brennan routinely dissented from decisions upholding a death sentence on the grounds that capital punishment is always a cruel and unusual punishment. Shortly before his retirement, Justice Harry Blackmun famously wrote that he would “no longer tinker with the machinery of death.” Justice John Paul Stevens similarly concluded that the death penalty is an excessive punishment.

But Glossip feels different. Breyer’s dissent is more of an invitation than a manifesto. “Rather than try to patch up the death penalty’s legal wounds one at a time,” he wrote, “I would ask for full briefing on a more basic question: whether the death penalty violates the Constitution.” It also feels different because it is no longer unthinkable that there are five votes for ending the death penalty.


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The End of the Death Penalty? (Original Post) Agschmid Jul 2015 OP
I hope so.. Peacetrain Jul 2015 #1
Me too! Agschmid Jul 2015 #3
One more decision nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #2
Even as DP supporter, I could live with a SCOTUS ban on the DP. aikoaiko Jul 2015 #4
Me neither. bigwillq Jul 2015 #9
Breyer is in essence asking for a test case to use as the vehicle hifiguy Jul 2015 #5
Agree, and I think it will happen sooner than later. Agschmid Jul 2015 #7
Yup! hifiguy Jul 2015 #8
The sooner the better... (nt) petronius Jul 2015 #6
We can't win every hot button decision Reter Jul 2015 #10
Uh no. Agschmid Jul 2015 #11

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
3. Me too!
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 07:22 PM
Jul 2015

I'm very anti-death penalty I was so let down when the jury here in Mass. choose death for Tsarnaev.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
2. One more decision
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 07:20 PM
Jul 2015

But Sotomayor calling for that discussion from the bench tells me we just might. Alito's discussion on Johnsn might indicate at the very least incarceration reform.

aikoaiko

(34,185 posts)
4. Even as DP supporter, I could live with a SCOTUS ban on the DP.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 07:25 PM
Jul 2015


I wouldn't fight or argue against such a prohibition.
 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
9. Me neither.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 07:54 PM
Jul 2015

I favor life in prison over the DP, but if someone is sentenced to the DP, I am cool with it.

Granted, I hope they are 100 percent sure that the person is indeed guilty (and that is one of the issues with our justice system), but if someone commits a crime to warrant the DP, I am sure as heck not going to have any sympathy for them.

I feel once a person commits a crime to warrant the DP, then they lose their right to be treated as a human being, because they certainly didn't treat the ones they killed or maimed as human beings.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
5. Breyer is in essence asking for a test case to use as the vehicle
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 07:48 PM
Jul 2015

for getting rid of the DP once and for all. I have no doubt some stalwart attorneys will take up his request.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
10. We can't win every hot button decision
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 08:22 PM
Jul 2015

Let them have this one, or they will star pushing the secession button.

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