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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 07:13 PM Jul 2015

This Stings: "Obama could sink 2016 Dems"

Budowsky: Obama could sink 2016 Dems

It was political malpractice for Obama to have spent a month dishing personal and political insults against prominent liberal Democrats, such as Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), organized labor and liberals across America during the trade debate. He falsely claimed they don’t know as much about trade as he does. He slandered Democratic opponents of the trade bill by falsely claiming they were not sincerely interested in standing up for working men and women, and were merely playing politics.

The president’s defamation of Democrats over trade was untrue, shameful and destructive to the Democratic Party. Most Democrats inside and outside Washington are genuinely worried — with good reason, rooted in the history of trade agreements — about the potential loss of American jobs.
This pattern of Obama and his aides insulting liberals began well before the 2010 and 2014 midterm elections, with repeated background quotes in mainstream media from unnamed White House personnel referring to leaders and members of the Democratic base as “the left of the left” and “the professional left.”



Here is the scoreboard of the political legacy that Obama may leave his party:

When Obama assumed office, Democrats controlled the House of Representatives. That majority was destroyed and a Republican House was elected on Obama’s watch.

When Obama assumed office, Democrats controlled the Senate. That majority was destroyed and a Republican Senate was elected on Obama’s watch.

When Obama assumed office, Democrats controlled a majority of governorships. The majority was destroyed, and Republicans took a majority of governorships on Obama’s watch, which led to the reapportionment after the 2010 Census that was catastrophic for House Democrats.


Given this legacy of damage that Obama has inflicted against his party and his presidency, by depressing liberal Democratic voters and motivating conservative Republican voters in two midterm elections that were disastrous for Democrats, it was breathtaking that throughout the recent trade debate Obama demonstrated he still has not learned that the leader of a great party must not insult its core voters if it has any hopes of prevailing in future presidential and congressional elections.

The trade debate has only begun, and other issues will emerge in force. Obama must end his habit of berating liberal and labor Democrats — once and for all — or it will be Republicans singing “Amazing Grace” on the morning after the 2016 elections.

Budowsky was an aide to former Sen. Lloyd Bentsen (D-Texas) and Bill Alexander (D-Ark.), then chief deputy majority whip of the House. He holds an LL.M. degree in international financial law from the London School of Economics. He can be read on The Hill’s Contributors blog.

http://thehill.com/opinion/brent-budowsky/246593-brent-budowsky-obama-could-sink-2016-dems
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This Stings: "Obama could sink 2016 Dems" (Original Post) KoKo Jul 2015 OP
Who pulls the strings? HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #1
Yep. They don't care who wins, as long as they are on the payroll. GoneFishin Jul 2015 #3
fear of a black president = gains for repubs. no brainer that nt msongs Jul 2015 #2
I think All of us on the Left and Most of America have gotten over "Obama" as a Black President. KoKo Jul 2015 #4
On the left ?... I can probably agree... Whiskeytide Jul 2015 #5
I think allowing Rahm Emmanuel and David Axelrod to Trash the Left Dems shortly after he KoKo Jul 2015 #7
Here in Detroit we are living so large, thanks to President Obama! Octafish Jul 2015 #6
Barack Obama created poverty? DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #13
No. He did nothing as President to end it. Octafish Jul 2015 #17
It's been a top 1-2% Recovery... KoKo Jul 2015 #18
It's strange, communicating with people who believe saying something makes it so. Octafish Jul 2015 #21
He ended the Great Recession and bailed out General Motors... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #20
For the 1-percent, certainly. For the 99-percent, not so much. Octafish Jul 2015 #22
He reduced unemployment from 10% to 5.5% DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #24
Sure wasn't the college graduates. One thing's working, for sure: Offshoring. Octafish Jul 2015 #30
Who was president in 2005?/nt DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #31
You need a link? Octafish Jul 2015 #32
So why are you blaming Obama for the demise of a company that happened on Bush*'s watch? DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #35
NAFTA is small potatoes compared to TPP. Octafish Jul 2015 #36
Yeah... It's like Congress didnt pass his prgrams! Adrahil Jul 2015 #25
They did for TPP. Octafish Jul 2015 #29
It's a rhetorical device used to stifle discussion since day one. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #40
Let me guess... wyldwolf Jul 2015 #8
See Post #7. KoKo Jul 2015 #10
See Post #9. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #12
See post #8 wyldwolf Jul 2015 #14
And in the real world 86% of Democrats approve of his job as president. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #9
No one Polled the rest of us Dems? KoKo Jul 2015 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #11
Just KICKING! n/t ChiciB1 Jul 2015 #15
I think the claim about Obama is BS Yo_Mama Jul 2015 #19
Oh, this I've gotta kick! Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #23
Boo Hoo Budowsky Renew Deal Jul 2015 #26
k and r. bbgrunt Jul 2015 #27
Obama knew what he was doing Nite Owl Jul 2015 #28
LOL Obama is the most popular politician in the country. Drunken Irishman Jul 2015 #33
hardly a far lefty author yurbud Jul 2015 #34
All Brent Budowksy Writes About Is His Drudge Crush joshcryer Jul 2015 #37
The losses in 2010 can be attributed to an enthusiasm among Tea Party and yes low davidpdx Jul 2015 #38
K&R for truth Populist_Prole Jul 2015 #39
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
1. Who pulls the strings?
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 07:35 PM
Jul 2015

The same corporations that control Republicans and Third Way Dems. You think they care which wins? Either will do the corporate bidding. Their real opponent is those politicians who aren't corrupted by corporate $.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
4. I think All of us on the Left and Most of America have gotten over "Obama" as a Black President.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 08:37 PM
Jul 2015

We see him as a President and don't look at his Color of Skin.

Why would you bring something like that up? Especially since we don't view Color or Gender as important? For "Hard Core Dems" it's what a President Achieves for Our Values that is important. Most Americans Voted for him...and Race wasn't the Issue ....but his PROMISES!

Whiskeytide

(4,463 posts)
5. On the left ?... I can probably agree...
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 08:56 PM
Jul 2015

... but I think you're fooling yourself if you discount the impact of racial motivation underlying ODS on the part of many republicans. And I suspect this was especially true back in 2010 when we lost the house and in 2012 when we lost the senate. JMHO.

But, to be clear, I disagree with the basic premise in the article you cite in your OP. Obama didn't lose those elections - Republicans may have gotten some "bump" from people voting on race, but those people were going to vote republican anyway. The reason republicans made such gains was the fact that Dems didn't turn out. I think its that simple.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
7. I think allowing Rahm Emmanuel and David Axelrod to Trash the Left Dems shortly after he
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:11 PM
Jul 2015

was elected does need to fall in his lap.

He was elected by the American People of all Colors, Genders, Race and to think that Republicans didn't cross over would leave out that if they were that Powerful ...then Obama wouldn't have won that election.

Reasonable, Caring, Concerned Americans of All Stripes turned out to vote for him or Romney would have won.

But, there is much he is accountable for in some of the unwise decisions he made. Whether Budowsky is correct that he we will lose the Senate and House once again because of Obama's choices to Bail out Wall St. and to increase the Wars in the Middle East and Africa and now the Cold War with Russia..remains to be seen.

I posted the article because with the TPP Passing and Opening the Arctic to Drilling and other Wall Street friendly moves...I wonder myself if we will get back a Dem House and Senate any time in the next Election or Decade.

I don't know......But, if America was Racist or Homophobic in Totality...then "Barack Hussein Obama" would never have been elected in the first place after the Bush Administration's horrific blunders.

Obama couldn't have been Elected if America was what Fox News/Murdoch tries to make us think we are....imho.

And, he isn't judged by his Color of Skin and what FAUX NEWS and RW Repubs Think of him.... but his Presidential Actions and History at this Point in his last days of his Presidency as we look for a New President in 2016. It is a Time for Reflection for how we want to Move Forward after Obama.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
6. Here in Detroit we are living so large, thanks to President Obama!
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:06 PM
Jul 2015


First thing he did was see that every Detroiter had food, shelter, living wage job, safe public school, public transportation, public safety and a lot more Norway. Yeah, I'm dreaming.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
21. It's strange, communicating with people who believe saying something makes it so.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:45 PM
Jul 2015
From a couple years' back:



The Shocking Redistribution of Wealth in the Past Five Years

by Paul Buchheit
Published on Monday, December 30, 2013 by Common Dreams

Anyone reviewing the data is likely to conclude that there must be some mistake. It doesn't seem possible that one out of twenty American families could each have made a million dollars since Obama became President, while the average American family's net worth has barely recovered. But the evidence comes from numerous reputable sources.

Some conservatives continue to claim that President Obama is unfriendly to business, but the facts show that the richest Americans and the biggest businesses have been the main - perhaps only - beneficiaries of the massive wealth gain over the past five years.

1. $5 Million to Each of the 1%, and $1 Million to Each of the Next 4%

From the end of 2008 to the middle of 2013 total U.S. wealth increased from $47 trillion to $72 trillion. About $16 trillion of that is financial gain (stocks and other financial instruments).

The richest 1% own about 38 percent of stocks, and half of non-stock financial assets. So they've gained at least $6.1 trillion (38 percent of $16 trillion). That's over $5 million for each of 1.2 million households.

The next richest 4%, based on similar calculations, gained about $5.1 trillion. That's over a million dollars for each of their 4.8 million households.

The least wealthy 90% in our country own only 11 percent of all stocks excluding pensions (which are fast disappearing). The frantic recent surge in the stock market has largely bypassed these families.

2. Evidence of Our Growing Wealth Inequality

This first fact is nearly ungraspable: In 2009 the average wealth for almost half of American families was ZERO (their debt exceeded their assets).

In 1983 the families in America's poorer half owned an average of about $15,000. But from 1983 to 1989 median wealth fell from over $70,000 to about $60,000. From 1998 to 2009, fully 80% of American families LOST wealth. They had to borrow to stay afloat.

It seems the disparity couldn't get much worse, but after the recession it did. According to a Pew Research Center study, in the first two years of recovery the mean net worth of households in the upper 7% of the wealth distribution rose by an estimated 28%, while the mean net worth of households in the lower 93% dropped by 4%. And then, from 2011 to 2013, the stock market grew by almost 50 percent, with again the great majority of that gain going to the richest 5%.

Today our wealth gap is worse than that of the third world. Out of all developed and undeveloped countries with at least a quarter-million adults, the U.S. has the 4th-highest degree of wealth inequality in the world, trailing only Russia, Ukraine, and Lebanon.

3. Congress' Solution: Take from the Poor

Congress has responded by cutting unemployment benefits and food stamps, along with other 'sequester' targets like Meals on Wheels for seniors and Head Start for preschoolers. The more the super-rich make, the more they seem to believe in the cruel fantasy that the poor are to blame for their own struggles.

President Obama recently proclaimed that inequality "drives everything I do in this office." Indeed it may, but in the wrong direction.

FORUM HOSTS, PLEASE NOTE: This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 License.

Paul Buchheit is a college teacher, an active member of US Uncut Chicago, founder and developer of social justice and educational websites (UsAgainstGreed.org, PayUpNow.org, RappingHistory.org), and the editor and main author of "American Wars: Illusions and Realities" (Clarity Press). He can be reached at paul@UsAgainstGreed.org.

Original Article: http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/12/30-0

What's changed since 2013? Any leadership, apart from TPP?

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,718 posts)
20. He ended the Great Recession and bailed out General Motors...
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:45 PM
Jul 2015

He also expanded Medicaid to provide health care to millions of previously uninsured indigent adults.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
22. For the 1-percent, certainly. For the 99-percent, not so much.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 10:00 PM
Jul 2015
The Increasingly Unequal States of America

Income Inequality by State, 1917 to 2012

By Estelle Sommeiller and Mark Price
Economic Policy Institute | January 26, 2015

Executive summary

Economic inequality is, at long last, commanding attention from policymakers, the media, and everyday citizens. There is growing recognition that we need an inclusive economy that works for everyone—not just for those at the top.

While there are plentiful data examining the fortunes of the top 1 percent at the national level, this report uses the latest available data to examine how the top 1 percent in each state have fared over 1917–2012, with an emphasis on trends over 1928–2012 (data for additional percentiles spanning 1917–2012 are available at go.epi.org/topincomes1917to2012). In so doing, this analysis finds that all 50 states have experienced widening income inequality in recent decades.

SNIP...

Specific findings include:

After incomes at all levels declined as a result of the Great Recession, income growth has been lopsided since the recovery began in 2009, with the top 1 percent capturing an alarming share of economic growth.

University of California at Berkeley economist Emmanuel Saez estimates that between 2009 and 2012, the top 1 percent captured 95 percent of total income growth.1

Data for individual states show that rising inequality is a pervasive trend: Between 2009 and 2012, in 39 states the top 1 percent captured between half and all income growth.

The states in which all income growth between 2009 and 2012 accrued to the top 1 percent include Delaware, Florida, Missouri, South Carolina, North Carolina, Connecticut, Washington, Louisiana, California, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Idaho, Massachusetts, Colorado, New York, Rhode Island, and Nevada.

The remaining states in which the top 1 percent captured half or more of income growth between 2009 and 2012 include Alabama (where 98.9 percent of all income growth was captured by the top 1 percent), Illinois (97.2 percent), Texas (86.8 percent), Arkansas (83.7 percent), Michigan (82.0 percent), New Jersey (80.5 percent), Maryland (80.5 percent), Nebraska (74.9 percent), Kansas (74.4 percent), Ohio (71.9 percent), Wisconsin (69.6 percent), Oklahoma (69.2 percent), Tennessee (68.5 percent), Iowa (65.0 percent), Georgia (63.6 percent), New Hampshire (59.5 percent), Arizona (59.0 percent), Maine (58.3 percent), Oregon (57.3 percent), Utah (56.6 percent), Minnesota (56.0 percent), and South Dakota (53.4 percent).

Focusing on inequality in 2012, the most recent year for which state data are available, New York and Connecticut had the largest gaps between the average incomes of the top 1 percent and the average incomes of the bottom 99 percent. In both states the top 1 percent earned average incomes more than 48 times those of the bottom 99 percent. This reflects in part the relative concentration of the financial sector in and beyond the New York City metropolitan area.


CONTINUED...

http://www.epi.org/publication/income-inequality-by-state-1917-to-2012/

Which is good for the Penny Pritzkers of the world.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
30. Sure wasn't the college graduates. One thing's working, for sure: Offshoring.
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 10:48 PM
Jul 2015

DELPHI Automotive, the parts maker spun-off when General Motors couldn't make it sufficiently profitable, makes a good example of the beneficiaries of modern trade policy:



Talk about a turnaround. Delphi's epic 2005 bankruptcy exacted high costs on communities, unions and the pensions of salaried retirees. Yet the creative destruction of the four-year ordeal, shaped by management, private equity investors and the demands of the Obama auto task force, produced a global supplier that now offers 33 product lines from 141 manufacturing sites in 33 countries and employs 160,000 worldwide — only 5,000 of which work inside the United States.

-- Daniel Howes, Detroit News

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/columnists/daniel-howes/2015/02/18/howes-delphi-surges-quietly-one-regret/23655511/



The above is from a business columnist describing the good work of DELPHI's then-president in turning the company around. "Good work" is, of course, defined in maximizing shareholder value. "Shareholder," seems to me, is defined these days as "Owner."

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
36. NAFTA is small potatoes compared to TPP.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:11 AM
Jul 2015

That's where President Obama is leading us: good for billionaires and millionaires, not so good for everyone else, especially the working people and poor.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
25. Yeah... It's like Congress didnt pass his prgrams!
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 10:18 PM
Jul 2015

I mean, it sure seems like Congress didn't pass his significant increase in taxes on the wealthy, or fund his infrastructure/jobs program. Or fund his free community college initiative.

wyldwolf

(43,870 posts)
8. Let me guess...
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:17 PM
Jul 2015

... after affordable health care, gay marriage legalization and a host of other accomplishments, only Bernie can save the Democratic party from the damage Obama has done.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
16. No one Polled the rest of us Dems?
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:31 PM
Jul 2015

I have Block on my Land Line...and my Cell allows me to refuse calls.

We don't know about the Polls so much these days. It depends on who they can reach.

But given your 86% ....I'd say that the ACA/Gay Marriage did much to boost Obama's Poll Numbers....even though ACA was not going down since people benefited (even though ACA was written by the Heritage Foundation) and Romney instituted a version of it in Massachusetts and would probably have instituted it himself as a bone to throw at Dems if he had been elected and Gay Marriage was Won by the Activists who worked hard for Decades to show the unfairness of the discrimination against them and Obama had nothing to do with it because he really wasn't onboard with it when he was elected. It was the Country Changing in its Views due to activists and "THE PEOPLE" saying it was TIME.

The Wall St. Bailouts, More Wars,TPA/ PP, Opening the Artic to "Drill Baby Drill" and his other actions or inactions that have caused concern with the rest of us Dems...on the Left (if you want to blame us Left Dems who voted for him) on Domestic, Environnmental and Ending Bush "Endless Wars" in MENA Issues.

Response to KoKo (Original post)

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
19. I think the claim about Obama is BS
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:41 PM
Jul 2015

There are some decent points here, but the bottom line is that the Democrats running will determine their own fates.

As for the control of the Congress issue, the reality is that in the US control shifts naturally. It was not ever going to be case that the Dems held both houses for very long.

The GR inflicted massive harm on this country, and those in power were never going to escape unscathed.

I do think the president is wrong about some of his tactics, but trying to blame everything on him seems witless.

Nite Owl

(11,303 posts)
28. Obama knew what he was doing
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 10:39 PM
Jul 2015

it isn't a matter learning because he wants it this way. He's an old school Republican and he said that himself. The shift to the right is of both parties is amazing, to have true dems have a say goes against the grain, it would give people actual choices.

joshcryer

(62,280 posts)
37. All Brent Budowksy Writes About Is His Drudge Crush
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:23 AM
Jul 2015
Back in June of last year, we wrote about The Hill columnist Brent Budowksy kissing Matt Drudge’s ass. At the time, he wrote a column praising Drudge, saying he “may be the most influential media figure today.”

Well apparently Budowksy still thinks that. Earlier this week he again wrote about Drudge which, naturally, Drudge linked to (hence writing it in the first place, a fairly timeless formula.) This time, it’s “Drudge defines the debate.” It’s Budowksy telling it like it is: “The blunt truth is, Matt Drudge has probably had more influence deciding the political narrative in Washington than any individual in America…”

Budowksy has a long history of these oddly glorifying articles about Drudge. This is getting embarrassing already.

Read here, here, here, here, here, and here.

http://www.adweek.com/fishbowldc/all-brent-budowksy-writes-about-is-his-drudge-crush/33551


Obama's accomplishments should be channeled and will be channeled. Even Sanders channeled Obama in his speech today in Madison.

The United States is designed for party shifts to happen whenever the executive changes hands. It's actually unusual for the executive to retain congress. Of course, gerrymandering and political tricks don't help the situation and actually make it worse.

But this Brent Budowksy is a clickbaiter at the minimum and should not be taken seriously.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
38. The losses in 2010 can be attributed to an enthusiasm among Tea Party and yes low
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:24 AM
Jul 2015

turn out for Democrats. I don't think that was entirely President Obama's fault. I do think we should have been ready for the huge backlash from the passage of the ACA. In my opinion 2014 was a different story. Many of the so called "Democrats" tried to run on a more conservative platform (their own) and distance themselves from President Obama. That's why we got whacked so hard in 2014. I also think the lack of a coherent plan on the part of the party is missing. We need to go back to a 50 state strategy, the same one that got us a majority in the 2006 and 2008 elections.

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