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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBobby Jindal grew up Hindu. I get it that he converted to Christianity.
But he takes up hunting basically for political reasons, going against everything he was taught as a child when he was Hindu. How crass is that?
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)winning and money ........... the gop yard stick
Raster
(20,998 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)Hinduism acknowledges all gods, even the Christian one. Handy, isn't it?
yellowcanine
(35,703 posts)can get. Hindus believe that animals have souls which are at the same level with human souls - not to mention reincarnation.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)a tan. I had friends from South America who used to say the same. Their brown skins were a tan. I used to try to tell them not to be ashamed of being morena, the spanish term for being dark instead of rubia, or blond and fair.
TexasProgresive
(12,161 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunting#Shikar_.28Indian_Subcontinent.29
Hindu scriptures describe hunting as an acceptable occupation, as well as a sport of the kingly. Even figures considered godly are described to have engaged in hunting. One of the names of the god Shiva is Mrigavyadha, which translates as "the deer hunter" (mriga means deer; vyadha means hunter)
yellowcanine
(35,703 posts)Excuse me but I do believe that is a stretch.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Blew my mind as a kid.
I think that was the day I became a liberal.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)an itinerant preacher to Queen Aslaug whom they say is calling their gods demons. Queen Aslaug acknowledges the Christian God, but said their gods are more powerful and asks the preacher if he is willing to pass a test to see who wins, the Norse gods or the Christian God. So it seems many of the non-Abrahamic religions do acknowledge the gods of other people as real. They just have a preference for their own gods.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)and now I go against much of what I was indoctrinated in as a child.
Does that make me "crass" too?
yellowcanine
(35,703 posts)Yes, I have left a lot behind as well. But there is a difference between moving on and doing something which is quite offensive to many of your family and friends for a seemingly political purpose.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Pretty sure the OP was about the absolute turnaround.
JI7
(89,281 posts)Many hindus eat meat. Some of them just don't eat beef.
The guy is a phony for sure. But Hinduism is often more cultural and isn't really taught in the way christianity or Islam is. It's very likely even in his Hindu family he grew up eating meat.
He still looks like a wannabe douche with the whole hunting thing
Recursion
(56,582 posts)The Hindu Right is really pushing to reshape all of Hinduism in its own image...
JI7
(89,281 posts)3catwoman3
(24,083 posts)...and principles. Hmmppphhhhhhh!
nsd
(2,406 posts)There is no centralized Hindu faith. Practices differ a lot between people from different parts of India and between people from different communities. Beef is proscribed, but many Hindus do eat meat.
That said, I think people should be able to be whom they want to be. We ought not criticize people because they live their lives contrary to how they grew up. The religious faith or other beliefs of one's parents shouldn't be a straightjacket. Just because your parents were Hindu or Catholic or Jewish or whatever doesn't mean you have to behave a certain way.
I don't know Bobby Jindal or his motivations. Neither do you. Nor does anyone else on this site. We can come up with lots (and lots and lots) of legitimate reasons to oppose Jindal, based on what he wants to do to this country. We don't need to psychoanalyze the man.
tymorial
(3,433 posts)If someone was raised Muslim, grew up and chose to eat pork chops as an adult would you call them crass? If someone was born fundamentalist christian but grew up to attend a marriage between two women or men would you call it crass? If someone was born a Roman Catholic and grew up to use contraception would you call them crass? Too incidental and not inherent to the faith? Okay, if someone was born a christian and then converted to Judaism or Islam as an adult, would you call them crass? My guess is that you would not. I wouldn't either. I would consider it their personal decision. I would consider it a sign of maturity that they are able to come to their own decisions in life without allowing culture to restrict thinking.
If you want to attack him for being a republican, by all means. I do so as well. I do not chose to engage in cognitive dissonance.
yellowcanine
(35,703 posts)The point isn't that people can't move on. They can. God knows I have.
But in Jindal's case, he apparently deliberately adopted the trappings of rural Louisianna in order to attract the "Bubba vote" - wore cowboy boots, got a hunting license, sent out a Christmas card where he and his family were decked out in camouflage clothing, etc. Okay, that is pandering and what politicians do, I get that. But sport hunting is so far from being a Hindu, even a cultural Hindu who might eat meat, that I say it is crass. To use your example, it would be like the lapsed Muslim inviting his Muslim parents and friends to a party and serving pork chops along with other food. There is just no reason to do that. You can show some sensitivity.
Alcoholic beverages were prohibited in my strict church upbringing. I would not dream of letting my elderly father in law see me drink alcohol. That is not allowing my culture to restrict my thinking. It is being sensitive - and mature.
Ms. Yertle
(466 posts)--maybe he went hunting with a friend and enjoyed it enough to take it up as a hobby.
Honestly, can't we just stick to the issues without venturing into territory we know nothing about? Bobby Jindal is about as wrong on the issues as he can be, and I'm not going to question why he chose to take up hunting.
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)and to be honest unless you are a Hindu I do not think you should blast someone for not being true to Hinduism. Especially since they are not of that faith.
I live in a nation that is predominantly Hindu. They really are not quite how you think they are.
yellowcanine
(35,703 posts)But one can adopt a different version of a religion or a different religion altogether without being disrespectful of the religion they were brought up in. It just seems to me that Jindal is trying hard to get rid of any hint of Hinduism both cultural and religious, and trying rather to be something he is not, a Southern Bubba, in order to get votes. That is the crass part.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"Okay, if someone was born a christian and then converted to Judaism or Islam as an adult, would you call them crass? "
If the fruits of that conversion were done solely for political rather than religious reasons, I certainly would.
That said, if someone else wants to argue his actions are sincere rather than politically motivated, good luck to them-- as even a naive person person such as myself becomes skeptical when an opportunistic and craven cynic such as Jindal is painted as sincere in his actions (regardless of how many under-educated persons misuse the term 'cognitive dissonance...').
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)That's really only a high-caste north Indian thing.
Snobblevitch
(1,958 posts)many politicians pretend to be hunters or shoot guns in order to get votes. Even President Obama had a photo shoot of him shooting a shotgun. I wonder if he ever shot a gun before or since?
Change has come
(2,372 posts)I'm too lazy to look. Thanks!
Snobblevitch
(1,958 posts)The cutline says that President Obama said that at Camp David he and his guests "do skeet shooting all the time". I can't remember him going to Camp David, at least not recently.