BREAKING: African American Church In South Carolina, Previously Burned Down By The KKK, Is On Fire

[applegrove]

BREAKING: African American Church In South Carolina, Previously Burned Down By The KKK, Is On Fire

by Judd Legum at Think Progress

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/06/30/3676023/breaking-african-american-church-south-carolina-previously-burned-kkk-fire/

"SNIP...............



The Mt Zion AME in Greelyville South Carolina was ablaze on Tuesday evening.


...............SNIP"

[shenmue]

1. ...

[jaysunb]

2. This domestic terrorism and should be treated as such !

Loudly and clearly by the Justice department.

[TM99]

3. Damn it!

Every generation has to learn this shit all over again apparently.

This is tragic.

[applegrove]

5. And people who consistently vote against their own economic interests

and for the GOP for generations have nothing but their hatred left. So sad. May the congregants of these churches see it as the death throws of such a south. I hope they don't take it personally even though it was meant as such.

[TM99]

8. I see low information voters in both

parties vote against their best self-interests.

This is deeper, more psychological. It is fear and impotent rage at the 'other'.

I want to believe it is the death throws but I suspect it is just ramping up for a worst wave of more violence to come.

Federal intervention may again be required.

[Kalidurga]

4. Do we need to call on the National Guard to guard the churches in SC?

[Luminous Animal]

7. Yes we do. And now.

[Kalidurga]

10. I agree

If the guard can be called on college students then this should be a no brainer.

[Judi Lynn]

6. Vicious, hateful monsters. What are the chances they will be brought to "justice," anyway?

No doubt we all thought we had seen the last of these terroristic acts decades ago.

Idiots, thugs, cowards.

[riderinthestorm]

9. Monsters doing monstrous acts

[Uncle Joe]

11. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, applegrove.

[AuntPatsy]

12. I can't believe that at this point these churches are not being watched?

[Liberty Belle]

13. There are too many of these; it has to be organized I suspect,by the kKK or some other group.

I sure hope the FBI is all over this, and meanwhile the church leaders should be demanding protection from the feds and the states.

[Cha]

14. ..

[Samantha]

15. I had to read the title of this thread 3 times -- I could not believe it

The officials should at least put security cameras in the vicinity of these churches.

I wish they could unearth at least two participants of this crime and charge them, put them on trial. The penalty should be so severe it would at least make some people rethink their participation in these crimes. Weak, I know, but that is all I can think of for now. There are no words....

Sam

[Lobo27]

16. Stop the hate.... FFS just stop it...

There are no races, no one people is greater than the other. We are the human race...

[raouldukelives]

17. We shall overcome.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

18. I hope someone gets a clear shot at one of these terrorists and takes it.

[ismnotwasm]

19. Horrible

Just horrible.

[Recursion]

20. FD says this one was not intentional

Hard to believe the entire string is accidental, though.

And, before anyone goes there, the fire chief of Williamsburg County SC is the gentleman on the right:

[orpupilofnature57]

28. Maybe he knows saying anything else would give air-time to shit-bags .

[B2G]

29. The Feds are saying the same thing.

Honestly, do some of you WANT this to be a hate crime?

<shaking head>

[orpupilofnature57]

31. No, but what a coincidence . And god knows the Feds are always right and truthful .

< Shrugging Shoulders >

[Spitfire of ATJ]

21. Rebuild them out of concrete.

[jalan48]

22. This a chance for Obama to take a firm stand.

He has the ability to send in the FBI and clean house with the racist hate groups committing these arsons. Expose and prosecute these organizations and individuals to the fullest extent-send a message. There is no need to build consensus with the Republicans and far right on a strategy, show them who's boss.

[awoke_in_2003]

23. They will not win...

their flag is going down, it won't be stopped. These roaches will be brought into the light, and then escorted to prison.

[Dont call me Shirley]

24. The FBI needs to get busy, NSA needs to get busy intercepting some dom terr phone calls,

The CIA needs to get busy opening up their DT files. Come on, get off your asses!

[orpupilofnature57]

27. + 1000 Well Put !!!!!!

[LynneSin]

25. Christian ISIS worries me moreso than the ISIS over in Syria

just saying!

[orpupilofnature57]

26. This is terrorism and a hate crime, This is how ignorance creeps it's ugly head and MSM helps . n/t

[flobee1]

30. Lightning?

Are there any du'ers in sc? Has there been bad weather?
I aint buying it

[B2G]

32. Yes, there have been severe storms for at least a week.

Every afternoon/evening, with lots of severe lightning. And churches have this little thing on top of them called a steeple.

Can we all just take a fucking breath??

There are Federal investigators and the ATF onsite. The will be able to determine if the fire is a result of something like lightning versus an accelerant because of...science.

You know, the same science we ridicule climate change deniers for ignoring?

[orpupilofnature57]

34. Oh,, so suspicion is advocating Anti-Science, why don't you chill expert .

[B2G]

35. Hey, I was asked a question, not by you , BTW,

and I answered.

Further, unless you are proposing some grand conspiracy at the federal level, who Obama runs in case you've forgotten, then science will determine the cause of the fire. Which from everything I've heard and read to date was caused by lightning. If you have evidence otherwise, I'm all ears.

And yes, suspicion is anti-science when we don't accept the results thereof.

Deal with it.

[Cali_Democrat]

36. There are racist killers out there specifically targeting black people

Dylan Roof ring a bell? The KKK will be holding a rally at the South Carolina capital in the coming weeks.

Nobody has time to take a breath.

Ultimate vigilance is required at the moment.

[orpupilofnature57]

37. Thank You

[B2G]

38. You are free to do what you want.

I prefer not to overreact, but that's just me.

[Cali_Democrat]

39. Easy for you to say...

as you're wrapped up in your blanket of white privilege.

The white racists won't be targeting you.

[B2G]

40. Yes I know. I've been told repeatedly.

What exactly do you suggest we do lacking any evidence as to how and or who started these fires?

What good does assigning blame with absolutely no evidence do?

[Cali_Democrat]

41. The media hasn't focused enough on these fires

especially in the wake of the Charleston massacre of black people.

Quit trying to dismiss people who are very concerned about the targeting of blacks and black churches by racist bigots.

[B2G]

42. I am not dismissing anyone's concerrn.

I'm concerned.

I just don't thing that making assumptions and jumping to conclusions is helping the situation at all.

[LanternWaste]

47. I don't think idle and benign speculation on a discussions board hurts the situation at all...

I don't think idle and benign speculation on a discussions board hurts the situation at all...

[Comrade Grumpy]

44. That's a crappy thing to say. Get off your high horse.

[Comrade Grumpy]

43. ..and there are lighting strikes. It doesn't do the cause any good to cry wolf.

[LanternWaste]

48. And there are arsonists. It doesn't do the cause any good to cry "the will of god..."

And there are arsonists. It doesn't do the cause any good to cry "the will of god..."

Six of one, half a dozen of the other... insert distinction lacking relevant difference in space provided below.

[SCantiGOP]

45. Yes, a lot of lightning in the last week

There have been three house fires in the Columbia area in just the past few days from lightning strikes. Fairly common these days. While some of the - how many, 7? - AA church fires will turn out to be arson this one and several others are apparently not.

[Joe Chi Minh]

33. It seems highly likely to me that these arsons committed against churches

would be sinning against the Holy Ghost - for which, as Jesus stated, there can be no pardon, as it is an eternal sin. However hate-filled I was, I wouldn't risk it. It's not something you'd want to taken any chance on that you're not forced to take.

If those people consider themselves Christians, so much the worse, the insult.

[inanna]

46. Update: Latest black church fire may not have been set by lightning, authorities say

Source: The Guardian

Thursday 2 July 2015 19.03 BST

Police and firefighters are disputing an anonymous report claiming that the most recent of seven fires at predominantly black churches in the south was caused by lightning.

A spate of fires has followed the racially motivated killing of nine people at a church in Charleston, South Carolina last month, provoking concerns that the incidents were related. Black churches have been targeted by racists since at least the early 19th century.

The Associated Press and the New York Times both cited an anonymous law enforcement official who said that a fire at Mount Zion African Methodist Episcopal (AME) Church in Greeleyville was caused by lightning.

“Bogus, bogus. We just don’t know yet,” Williamsburg fire chief Randy Swinton told the Post and Courier of the reports.

Link: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/02/south-carolina-black-church-fires-lightning-charleston