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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
Wed May 9, 2012, 07:48 PM May 2012

Cheney's 2009 Statement on Gay Unions

Much is being made by Joe Scum and log cabin Republicans that Cheney came out in favor of gay marriage years ago. I looked that up, and here is the quote I found by Cheney:

Well, I think that freedom means freedom for everyone. As many of you know, one of my daughters is gay and it is something that, uh, we have lived with for a long time, in our family. I think people ought to be free to enter into any kind of union they wish. Any kind of arrangement they wish. The question of whether or not there ought to be a federal statute that governs this, I don't support. I do believe that historically the way marriage has been regulated is at the state level. It has always been a state issue, and I think that's the way it ought to be handled today, that is on a state-by-state basis. Different states will make different decisions. But I don't have any problem with that. I think people ought to get a shot at that.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/05/video-of-the-day-dick-cheney-endorsing-gay-marriage-in-2009/256961/


As you can see from the quote, he did not say that the U.S. should allow same sex marriage. He said that he is in favor of that being decided on a state-by-state basis. So one can assume that Cheney would be okay with the North Carolina decision by voters to ban gay marriage constitutionally. Cheney flat out states taht he doesn't think the federal government should get involved. That means he doesn't think it's a civil rights matter, and that he only personally was okay with a gay "union" or "arrangement" of any kind because his family had been living with his daughter's lesbianism for a long time.

A very different stance than the one taken by Obama and Biden. And Cheney was just a V.P. Bush didn't take Cheney's stance and was prepared, as I recall, to sign a bill forbidding gay marriage.

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Cheney's 2009 Statement on Gay Unions (Original Post) Honeycombe8 May 2012 OP
It made sense that Cheney would support it, but had he not had a Lesbian daughter teddy51 May 2012 #1
Apparently Cheney forgot about Loving v. Virginia when the federal government did get involved dballance May 2012 #2
 

teddy51

(3,491 posts)
1. It made sense that Cheney would support it, but had he not had a Lesbian daughter
Wed May 9, 2012, 07:51 PM
May 2012

you can bet he would have been against it.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
2. Apparently Cheney forgot about Loving v. Virginia when the federal government did get involved
Wed May 9, 2012, 08:11 PM
May 2012

In the landmark case Loving v. Virginia the Supreme court unanimously ruled VA's anti-miscegenation law unconstitutional paving the way to all mixed race couples to get married.

So if the supremes ruled that barring same-sex partners from getting married is unconstitutional then it would not be them wading into new territory where they've never been before.

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