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cali

(114,904 posts)
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:42 PM May 2012

This is important: It's marriage equality, not gay marriage

Does it matter? I think so in terms of framing the argument and because "gay marriage" sets it apart, makes it seem different. And it's not different, it's exactly the same. That's the point: Equality. We need to use that word within this context. It's positive rhetoric and it's accurate and it doesn't set the GLBT community is some space marked "other".










edited to change title and add a word or two.

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This is important: It's marriage equality, not gay marriage (Original Post) cali May 2012 OP
TOTALLY! cilla4progress May 2012 #1
When you are right, you are right!!!!!!!!! all american girl May 2012 #2
K&R! Spot on Right Moonwalk May 2012 #3
Thank you, Moonwalk cali May 2012 #5
Exactly! pinboy3niner May 2012 #4
yep. we need to get up to speed with this. cali May 2012 #7
Absolutely! loyalsister May 2012 #6
Concur. Thank-you n/t Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #8
as opposed to "First Cousin Marriage" which should be set apart - like in NC nadine_mn May 2012 #9
I just call it equality in general. Lawlbringer May 2012 #10
The Dems long ago turned over the job of naming the issues to the Repubs. Speck Tater May 2012 #11
that is so damned true cali May 2012 #12
kicking nt shcrane71 May 2012 #13
the K & R..... dhill926 May 2012 #14
AGREED. Words matter. Brooklyn Dame May 2012 #15
I prefer "marriage preference" MNBrewer May 2012 #16
Well, you got my attention. Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #18
That tag DOES have its uses. MNBrewer May 2012 #21
Good to know WinniSkipper May 2012 #17
Even better call it what the British call it FreeState May 2012 #19
Damit!!! where's the LIKE button??? MNBrewer May 2012 #22
Yes, it is important (nt) varelse May 2012 #20
kick because we have a problem here cali May 2012 #23

cilla4progress

(24,790 posts)
1. TOTALLY!
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:47 PM
May 2012

I ALWAYS refer to it as marriage equality...because that is what it truly is. Thanks for making this point.

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
2. When you are right, you are right!!!!!!!!!
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:48 PM
May 2012

I will do better, I promise...marriage EQUALITY!!!!!!! Hopefully is will stay in my brain now (can't make any guarantees.....I promise to try really really really hard)

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
3. K&R! Spot on Right
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:50 PM
May 2012

This is about civil rights, not gay rights. And it's about time we started framing the argument rather than letting others frame it to seem like someone is seeking a special privilege. Let's get aggressive in making sure it's given the right name.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
5. Thank you, Moonwalk
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:51 PM
May 2012

I think this is the third time I've written essentially the same OP. I felt a bit sheepish about posting it today, but I do think it's important.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
4. Exactly!
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:50 PM
May 2012

"Gay rights" framing only serves the RW "special" rights meme. Equality is a civil rights issue.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
7. yep. we need to get up to speed with this.
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:59 PM
May 2012

And that means using the word equality at every opportunity.

nadine_mn

(3,702 posts)
9. as opposed to "First Cousin Marriage" which should be set apart - like in NC
Wed May 9, 2012, 05:01 PM
May 2012

Which is why civil unions was a load of bull puckey - marriage equality for all.

Lawlbringer

(550 posts)
10. I just call it equality in general.
Wed May 9, 2012, 05:09 PM
May 2012

Marriage equality falls under the larger umbrella. Equality for all marriages, equality for all races, equality for all genders. This country was founded to escape the old world mentality, the conservatism of it all. As a nation founded on forward thinking, it's a shame that we're fighting ourselves so hard to prevent the most basic tenet of progressive thinking: equality. Doesn't matter if you're a man looking to marry the man you love, or an Asian woman hoping to make something of her life and be treated equally (both paywise or respectwise) in the workplace.

This hurdle will be a huge victory, and a step in the right direction.

Personally, I can't wait to go to a wedding after this happens (whenever it does). It'll have a whole different feel, don't you think?

 

Speck Tater

(10,618 posts)
11. The Dems long ago turned over the job of naming the issues to the Repubs.
Wed May 9, 2012, 05:50 PM
May 2012

I don't know why, but it seems a characteristic of the Dems to let themselves be bullied.

Brooklyn Dame

(169 posts)
15. AGREED. Words matter.
Wed May 9, 2012, 06:37 PM
May 2012

Words can make or break people's perceptions. Check out the video in this article; a preacher (ok, that shocked the daylights out of me) talks about this quite eloquently. It's about not distinguishing between people when it comes to equal protection and rights under the law.

http://borderlessnewsandviews.com/2012/05/the-romanticized-south-redux-im-looking-at-you-north-carolina/

FreeState

(10,585 posts)
19. Even better call it what the British call it
Wed May 9, 2012, 08:54 PM
May 2012

Marriage discrimination. As in it's time we put an end to marriage discrimination. Call it marriage

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