Bruce Jenner: McConnell & Boehner would be "very receptive" to helping champion transgender cause

[Miles Archer]

Bruce Jenner, After Coming Out As Transgender, Says He's A Conservative
The Huffington Post | By Ashley Alman

Posted: 04/24/2015 11:30 pm EDT Updated: 04/24/2015 11:59 pm EDT



"Are you a Republican?" Sawyer asked.

"Yeah! Is that a bad thing? I believe in the Constitution."

Sawyer wondered whether a transgender individual affiliating with the Republican Party might be "an unsettling thing" for conservative Republicans, but Jenner told her neither party "has a monopoly on understanding." Sawyer asked Jenner whether he would ask Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) or House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) to "help champion this cause."

"I would do that, yeah, in a heartbeat," Jenner said. "Why not? And I think they'd be very receptive to it."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/24/bruce-jenner-conservative_n_7140858.html

[JI7]

1. i actually don't think they personally have problem with it

especially not boehner. but it's more the religious conservatives in the party and the other crazies who would stop them from doing it.

[LittleBlue]

11. Yep

That's why the social conservatives hate them, they know Boner and turtle aren't one of them.

[Cha]

22. President Obama on Transgender Rights..

Obama Transgender Rights

"Obama's Transgender Rights Campaign Gets Little Attention" Yeah, it would take some actual investigating.. but "constitution"

snip//

With little of the fanfare or criticism that marked his evolution into the leader Newsweek nicknamed "the first gay president," Obama became the first chief executive to say "transgender" in a speech, to name transgender political appointees and to prohibit job bias against transgender government workers. Also in his first term, he signed hate crime legislation that became the first federal civil rights protections for transgender people in U.S. history.


Since then, the administration has quietly applied the power of the executive branch to make it easier for transgender people to update their passports, obtain health insurance under the Affordable Care Act, get treatment at Veteran's Administration facilities and seek access to public school restrooms and sports programs — just a few of the transgender-specific policy shifts of Obama's presidency.

MOre..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/obama-transgender-rights/

[elleng]

2. S/he's got a lot to learn, I guess.

Haven't gotten into this matter at all, I wish Jenner all the best, and hope he learns a thing or two.

[Scootaloo]

10. "She" - just for future reference

[elleng]

12. Thanks SO MUCH.

[JI7]

13. on the show i think jenner said to still use "he"

[Quantess]

28. I will wait until she picks a different first name.

In my opinion, Bruce is not one of those flexible names that can be assigned to whatever gender.

[alphafemale]

33. I know of no female easy exchanges for Bruce

Bruiser Brutal Brutus

Ruth is the only thing that even sounds remotely close.

[tblue37]

57. Brenda. nt

[spinbaby]

38. I know a woman named Bruce

Also a Kevin.

[JI7]

55. he could play on his last name and go with jenna

[Ms. Toad]

62. Trans* friends of mine use names of one gender with different pronouns.

So the key shouldn't be when he picks a different first name, but when he announces a preference for feminine pronouns - regardless of what first name he is using.

[Quantess]

63. Thanks for telling me something I already knew. Maybe someone else will get fresh enlightenment

from your reminder. In any case, Bruce Jenner hasn't announced the preference to be addressed by feminine pronouns.

[Ms. Toad]

64. Since I'm not in your head, I can only go by what you wrote

I will wait until she picks a different first name.

In my opinion, Bruce is not one of those flexible names that can be assigned to whatever gender.

You didn't say you would wait until Bruce requests different pronouns be used - it said you were waiting for a name announcement. That's what I was responding to.

[Quantess]

65. No big deal. I should have known better than to express myself that way on the DU.

One generally has to include all the disclaimers and write things in such a way that there is no room for misunderstanding, etc...
I should know that it doesn't work to post a flip comment which didn't mean very much, without someone jumping to conclusions about my attitude on a given subject.

My comment amounts to nothing more than a commentary on the name Bruce as perhaps not an obvious choice for a woman.

[backscatter712]

47. This is where I get genuinely confused.

Most of the time, transwomen are to be referred to using their self-identified gender, normally she.

But Bruce Jenner is still using a male name and male pronouns, and asked people to do the same.

I'm guessing that fairly shortly, Jenner will adopt a female name, and ask to be referred to with female pronouns. Right now, it's Jenner's call.

[JI7]

48. i was thinking it was probably because of his kids

and helping them to adjust . he is older than many others who would come out and has kids and grandkids who are used to seeing or addressing him in one way.

[dflprincess]

52. He did and he said he still calls himself Bruce

when he makes the change to "she" then we all should - right now I guess we still use "he" as long as he does.

[alphafemale]

32. Bruce still prefers "He" for now. nt

[markpkessinger]

36. Actually, Jenner has said to use "he" for now . . .

According to a statement posted by 20/20:

Bruce Jenner said at this moment, in this interview, we should still use the familiar pronouns "him" or "he." #BruceJennerABC

See https://twitter.com/ABC2020/status/591771605325455360

So I think the most appropriate thing to do in this instance is to follow his wishes, don't you?

[Scootaloo]

44. I was unaware; So, yes

[msanthrope]

39. In the interview, Jenner made is clear he prefers continued use of masculine pronouns. nt

[BillZBubb]

3. Clearly Jenner isn't the most intelligent individual.

And that's understatement. There is no way either of those guys champion his cause.

[salin]

4. well - if she could get them to be receptive

that would be a good thing. But the fact that she thinks she can - indicates that she lives in a bubble and pays little attention to republican initiatives of the past decade. Not.terribly.likely. She clearly didn't hear any of the rw rhetoric during and after the Indiana RFA controversies, nor those following in Ark and Ga - nor the brewing storm in Louisiana. The republican side isn't quite as receptive as she has found in metro Los Angeles.

[Skittles]

5. fucking republicans think they are the only folk who believe in the Constitution?

they MISINTERPRET the Constitution to push their paranoid bullshit

[arcane1]

16. That jumped out at me too. It always pisses me off!

[Iris]

34. That's their new talking point. I guess it's second to the Bible to them.

I don't "believe in" written documents. That's just a weird choice of words to me.

[eShirl]

35. and the only patriots, and the only christians, and the only hard workers, etc

[odd_duck]

40. Ther is more...

BS Code Speak, if you will...

"take our country back"
"Real Americans"
"Freedom/Liberty Lovers"
"Family Values"

[Skittles]

49. CORRECT

fucking backward, racist, gun humping PIECES OF SHIT.....they don't fool me for one minute

[TheCowsCameHome]

6. What's with all this Bruce Jenner stuff?

I'm not even sure who he is............

[okaawhatever]

18. He is the former Olympic Gold Medalist in the decathalon. He is the step-father of Kim, Khloe and

the 3rd Kardashian girl and he has 2 daughters with Kris Jenner both are famous models.

[misterhighwasted]

7. Try Pence, Jindal & Michele Dugger first Mr Jenner.

Start with States Laws and then meet with Boner & McConnel.

Convince the RW Fundies that have already legislated laws making TGender lowest on the society food chain.

Do something good with your celebrity.
Please.

[Cha]

23. Really. the Obama Admin on Transgender Rights..

Obama Transgender Rights

"Obama's Transgender Rights Campaign Gets Little Attention" Yeah, it would take some actual investigating.. but "constitution"

snip//

With little of the fanfare or criticism that marked his evolution into the leader Newsweek nicknamed "the first gay president," Obama became the first chief executive to say "transgender" in a speech, to name transgender political appointees and to prohibit job bias against transgender government workers. Also in his first term, he signed hate crime legislation that became the first federal civil rights protections for transgender people in U.S. history.


Since then, the administration has quietly applied the power of the executive branch to make it easier for transgender people to update their passports, obtain health insurance under the Affordable Care Act, get treatment at Veteran's Administration facilities and seek access to public school restrooms and sports programs — just a few of the transgender-specific policy shifts of Obama's presidency.

MOre..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/obama-transgender-rights/

[beam me up scottie]

8. Neither party may have a "monopoly on understanding"

But one party does champion the rights of lgbt people and it ain't the one she chose to be a member of.

Maybe living in a liberal paradise skews your perception - and I say that with envy.

Move here to the bible belt Bruce, see what the view is like from my house.

[Cha]

24. I know.. her statements read like the Twilight Zone.. :(

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[beam me up scottie]

26. She seems lost.

Maybe it's all those years living with the Kardashians.

[Cha]

29. who knows.. maybe she was a college republican? In the interview Jenner gave

credit to the President for being the first to say "Transgender" but he's "not a fan".. no mention of these Obama Admin accomplishments on Transgender Rights..

Obama Transgender Rights

"Obama's Transgender Rights Campaign Gets Little Attention" Yeah, it would take some actual investigating.. but "constitution"

snip//

With little of the fanfare or criticism that marked his evolution into the leader Newsweek nicknamed "the first gay president," Obama became the first chief executive to say "transgender" in a speech, to name transgender political appointees and to prohibit job bias against transgender government workers. Also in his first term, he signed hate crime legislation that became the first federal civil rights protections for transgender people in U.S. history.

Since then, the administration has quietly applied the power of the executive branch to make it easier for transgender people to update their passports, obtain health insurance under the Affordable Care Act, get treatment at Veteran's Administration facilities and seek access to public school restrooms and sports programs — just a few of the transgender-specific policy shifts of Obama's presidency.

MOre..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/obama-transgender-rights/

[beam me up scottie]

30. I have no idea where she's getting her information from.

Could be from watching FoxNews. She's obviously uninformed or worse, misinformed about politics.

Like I told Jamastiene, it's fine to be that ignorant if you never need to rely on them for support.

[Jamastiene]

25. I hear ya.

Being in the Bible Belt is living in the belly of the beast. I was born here and poverty keeps me here. I'm so old now though that even if I won the lottery, I wouldn't even know where to go nor would I ever be so lucky as to be that naive. Or maybe being that naive is not necessarily a good thing, but ignorance is bliss and she seems super blissful if she thinks the Republican Party would ever champion the transgender cause. Oh, to live in a such an insulated world as many do. They don't know how lucky they really are.

[beam me up scottie]

27. It could be a blessing or a curse.

If you need to rely on hateful bigots to support you it's going to end badly.

If you're rich and live in Hollywood and you don't need them, well, may you never find out how horrible they really are.

The rest of us already know.

[yeoman6987]

53. Republicans are always behind on equal rights

The President supported gay marriage all the way back to 2012. Republicans aren't there yet. They will be after the Supreme Court verdict. Well except Cruz.

[beam me up scottie]

54. "They will be after the Supreme Court verdict" Bullshit.

They will NEVER be there.

Just like Roe v Wade and the CRA, the Republicans will fight tooth and claw to assure lgbt people never achieve first class citizenship.

[Politicalboi]

9. Receptive to it.

He's been on TV, I guess he doesn't watch TV. Yeah Bruce, they'll be receptive to sending you to a shrink and not allowing you to transition. Yea GOP!!!!!!!

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

14. Is he just making shit up?

He really does live in the reality TV bubble. Not a fucking clue....

[The Blue Flower]

15. Jenner lives in a celebrity/wealth bubble

My feeling at the end of the interview was that Jenner's got some rough awakenings ahead. But the questions about whether the next relationship will be a lesbian one made me wish we could just get rid of the labels. Human beings tend to love one another. Why can't that be the only thing that's relevant?

[Initech]

17. Fail. The Republicans are the last party to cater to LGBT causes.

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

19. Suuuure they will.

Go try it. Dare ya.

[LuvNewcastle]

37. That's what I thought.

Jenner needs to go meet with them, if they'll see him, and then report back to us about how "receptive" they were. Come on, Bruce, America is waiting.

[Cha]

20. Good luck with that. Of course if Bruce Jenner is brainwashed into thinking

Republican="Constitution". And, "neither party has an monopoly on understanding".. which pisses me off and makes me think he has no clue.. then he'd think ol mitch and boner would be glad to help out this 'cause.

And, he doesn't have a gd clue what President Obama has done for Transgender people.

Obama Transgender Rights

"Obama's Transgender Rights Campaign Gets Little Attention" Yeah, it would take some actual investigating.. but "constitution"

snip//

With little of the fanfare or criticism that marked his evolution into the leader Newsweek nicknamed "the first gay president," Obama became the first chief executive to say "transgender" in a speech, to name transgender political appointees and to prohibit job bias against transgender government workers. Also in his first term, he signed hate crime legislation that became the first federal civil rights protections for transgender people in U.S. history.


Since then, the administration has quietly applied the power of the executive branch to make it easier for transgender people to update their passports, obtain health insurance under the Affordable Care Act, get treatment at Veteran's Administration facilities and seek access to public school restrooms and sports programs — just a few of the transgender-specific policy shifts of Obama's presidency.

MOre..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/obama-transgender-rights/

I love my President!

[Jamastiene]

21. She has a LOT to learn, I see.

Props for finally being who she wants to be, but run, don't walk, from the Republican Party. She is in for a big surprise there.

[get the red out]

31. Jenner must be a bit sheltered

But fame and wealth do insulate people from a lot of the issues regular people face due to the Republican base.

[spanone]

41. mr jenner is either highly naive or in denial of his partys' hatred for his 'cause'

[joeybee12]

42. I wish Bruce well, but he apparently isn't too bright...

Or has hung around with that slug of a family he married into and has no clue what life is like outside his bubble.

[GeorgeGist]

43. Buffoonery is a choice.

[hifiguy]

45. Huffing gas is not a good idea, Bruce.

It rots the brain.

[backscatter712]

46. Right now, Jenner's a useful token for them.

When the lights get turned off, the cameras move on to the next shiny object, and Jenner's no longer in the spotlight, the GOP will throw him (remembering that Bruce Jenner asked people to use male pronouns to refer to him for now) under the bus to pander to the fundies.

What the hell is Jenner thinking?

[elehhhhna]

56. he won the Olympic medals in 76 - the Sesquacentennial

Which was a super jingoistic orgy of USA!!1! ad nauseam. Not shocked he's been sucked up to by the party of Amerikkka since then. He's also not the most learned man ever, not by a long shot.

Give him a few months. He'll catch in to the politics soon enough

[Tom Ripley]

50. Well, the dumbass didn't go to college on an academic scholarship

What do you expect?

[merrily]

51. A Las Vegas tycoon was on Charlie Rose recently.

He said he had been a Democrat, but switched to Republican. He said that he was giving a speech to a large gathering of Republicans, maybe even at a national conventions? (not sure about that last bit.) He said to them (not exact words) that his daughters were pro-choice and he had gay friends. He asked, "Is the elephant's back broad enough for my daughters and my friends?" Claimed he got a standing ovation.

Just like Democrats would love more Republican and Indie votes, Republicans would love more votes from Democrats and Indies, including women and members of the LGBTQ community. Neither of those two parties can afford to alienate their respective bases (yet) though.

It will be interesting to see what happens to both Republicans and Democrats if Republicans are ever able to get sane about equality (which includes reproductive choice).

[morningfog]

58. If Bruce Jenner leads Republicans into supporting and embracing transgender rights,

hell fucking yeah. Well done, Bruce.

I hope happens.

[Initech]

59. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA....

Boy, Bruce is completely delusional if he thinks that the Republican party is going to do anything to advance LGBT causes, especially the T part.

[Arugula Latte]

60. He's obviously completely naive, ignorant or politics, and also not the brightest bulb in the shed.

[Initech]

61. He will be in for a very rude awakening once the process really starts.