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madokie

(51,076 posts)
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 04:09 AM Apr 2015

How to be excited about Hillary Clinton - By Mark Morford

She’s no Obama. She’s not nearly as immediately likeable, captivating, hyper-articulate. She’s not a great orator, she doesn’t have much by way of magnetism or personal charisma (though she reportedly does have a terrific sense of humor), much less Obama’s famous, deeply reassuring/infuriating Zen-like calm.

She can’t hit a three-pointer from 25 feet out. She’s not a surprising unknown, an electrifying newcomer with a curious pedigree who might, just might, really shake things up in DC. While she’s as intelligent, experienced and politically savvy as they come, everyone knows all that experience comes with so much baggage and entrenched cronyism, not to mention a hawkish foreign policy, that her campaign already feels a little, well, heavy.

This is the bad news. And it’s just terribly easy to wallow in it, to be somewhat less than enthralled with Hillary’s second presidential bid, if for no other reason there’s just not much genuine spark there – nothing, aside from her gender and her inherent promise not to mess with Obama’s legacy overmuch, to truly inspire the Left and galvanize the ever-wary liberal youth. And that announcement video? About as captivating as an Allstate commercial. Is this what we’re in for?

But wait. That’s too easy. And not at all helpful.


http://blog.sfgate.com/morford/2015/04/14/how-to-be-excited-about-hillary-clinton/
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How to be excited about Hillary Clinton - By Mark Morford (Original Post) madokie Apr 2015 OP
Glad I lived long enough to see 'Obama’s famous, deeply reassuring/infuriating Zen-like calm.' freshwest Apr 2015 #1
Amen! I love that article.. glad I've enjoyed and am enjoying the last year and a half .. while it Cha Apr 2015 #3
Really interesting article, madokie.. thank you! From your link.. Cha Apr 2015 #2
Jeb is little boots on steroids madokie Apr 2015 #4
I hear ya! Cha Apr 2015 #8
YEEEEESSSSSSSSSS! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #13
! DeSwiss Apr 2015 #5
Excellent article. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #6
It All About Her Self-Entitlement billhicks76 Apr 2015 #7
Hmm - did you actually read the article? BlueMTexpat Apr 2015 #10
Doesn't Have To Be In The "Article" billhicks76 Apr 2015 #25
Hillary's gotta know by now.. being President is not a sure thing. She's working for it. Cha Apr 2015 #9
Yep, gotta stash enough cash from wealthy donors. Helen Borg Apr 2015 #20
Yeah yeah.. Hillary's not my candidate yet.. but, I know there's more to it than whatever cheap Cha Apr 2015 #21
Are you saying she is not stashing cash from wealthy donors? Helen Borg Apr 2015 #29
I'm saying exactly what I said.. you can chuckle at whatever you have going on. Cha Apr 2015 #38
Ah, OK, because I thought you called that simple fact "a cheap shot". Helen Borg Apr 2015 #39
Yeah, I'm sure you are "curious" about that. Cha Apr 2015 #40
Will vote for her if she gets the nomination rosesaylavee Apr 2015 #11
I don't think the Keystone Pipeline will be difficult to overcome rpannier Apr 2015 #15
Well, no, it was the exact opposite rosesaylavee Apr 2015 #35
Sources rpannier Apr 2015 #41
Good piece. Rec. callous taoboy Apr 2015 #12
Oh, snap! Bwaaahaaaaa! Found this gem in there... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #14
loved the article Duppers Apr 2015 #16
The SF Gate comments are revealing n/t whatchamacallit Apr 2015 #17
The article is stupid. No pissing off mouth breathing bigots isn't enough. TheKentuckian Apr 2015 #18
spectacular article Doctor_J Apr 2015 #19
SPECTACULAR INDEED!!!!!!!!!! Be sure onecent Apr 2015 #22
Otherworldly run, yes - but, the WWP was on his way out anyway LiberalElite Apr 2015 #23
Well EXCUUUUUUSSSSE ME, I didn't write it...I just had an onecent Apr 2015 #24
ok ok - LiberalElite Apr 2015 #26
Not a problem..WE ALL HAVE our moments on this website!!!! onecent Apr 2015 #32
I assumed it would include prescription medications, heavy doses of prescription meds. Savannahmann Apr 2015 #27
... handmade34 Apr 2015 #28
DU rec for Morford... SidDithers Apr 2015 #30
Yep...that helps to look at it that way. NT Left coast liberal Apr 2015 #31
Basically, she royally pisses off the rightwing cretins, so that's exciting. Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #33
If nothing else, we get to watch their expressions as Clinton wins it all. Orsino Apr 2015 #34
Oh, noes! Teh wimmez is coming! Look out! (pic) freshwest Apr 2015 #36
well she does make the right froth at the mouth - and that is kind of fun Douglas Carpenter Apr 2015 #37

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
1. Glad I lived long enough to see 'Obama’s famous, deeply reassuring/infuriating Zen-like calm.'
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 04:32 AM
Apr 2015
Makes it all worth it to me.


Cha

(297,273 posts)
3. Amen! I love that article.. glad I've enjoyed and am enjoying the last year and a half .. while it
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 04:35 AM
Apr 2015

is happening!

Cha

(297,273 posts)
2. Really interesting article, madokie.. thank you! From your link..
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 04:34 AM
Apr 2015

"But by far the best, and most quintessentially Republican, reaction came from Jeb “I am not my idiot brother” Bush, who immediately, upon Hillary’s announcement, asked every one of his supporters to send his PAC $5.

And why? Not to help him defeat Hillary. Not to help promote his ideas or invite something different. Not really for anything at all.

The money was needed, he said, to stop her."

madokie

(51,076 posts)
4. Jeb is little boots on steroids
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 04:40 AM
Apr 2015

Gotta stop Hillary LOL
The more Hillary bashing I read the more I want to see her in the oval office kicking republiCON and naysayers ass

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
10. Hmm - did you actually read the article?
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 05:00 AM
Apr 2015

There's nothing in there about self-entitlement that I could see.

But there is a LOT of truth.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
25. Doesn't Have To Be In The "Article"
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 07:46 AM
Apr 2015

Read this and ask yourself why you didn't know about this. Why aren't our so-called Democratic leaders screaming about this? It's because they are bought and paid for. Keep dreaming.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/04/the-numbers-are-staggering-us-is-world-leader-in-child-poverty/

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
20. Yep, gotta stash enough cash from wealthy donors.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 07:07 AM
Apr 2015

More than the opponents do. And in doing so, making promises to those donors...

Cha

(297,273 posts)
21. Yeah yeah.. Hillary's not my candidate yet.. but, I know there's more to it than whatever cheap
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 07:25 AM
Apr 2015

pot shots are thrown at her.

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
39. Ah, OK, because I thought you called that simple fact "a cheap shot".
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 06:24 PM
Apr 2015

Also, curious that you heard chuckling through your monitor...

rosesaylavee

(12,126 posts)
11. Will vote for her if she gets the nomination
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 05:34 AM
Apr 2015

Last edited Wed Apr 15, 2015, 02:56 PM - Edit history (1)

and it appears now I will defend her against the insane rabid misogynists...

But she needs to explain why she supported the Keystone XL Pipeline, what her stance is on Climate Change and what her plan is to address it. If she does that adequately, it will make voting for her a lot more palatable. Climate Change IS the topic to be concerned about overall --- and it is not really seen that way yet. She wants to get a foot hold over others in the race, she needs to address this crisis.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
15. I don't think the Keystone Pipeline will be difficult to overcome
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 06:08 AM
Apr 2015

She was Sec of State when her office recommended to the President not to approve the permit

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
41. Sources
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 08:36 PM
Apr 2015

According to the New York Times dated Jan 18, 2012

The State Department, which has authority over the project because it crosses an international border, said there was not enough time to draw a new route for the pipeline and assess the potential environmental harm to sensitive grasslands and aquifers along its path. The agency recommended that the permit be denied, and Mr. Obama concurred.

This story was also reported in Firedoglake
The Christian Science Monitor

And state.gov in Report to Congress

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
14. Oh, snap! Bwaaahaaaaa! Found this gem in there...
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 06:03 AM
Apr 2015
“You thought the intellectual black guy was

bad?” they seemed to wail, en masse,

“Just wait until the shrewd old woman gets in there.”


TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
18. The article is stupid. No pissing off mouth breathing bigots isn't enough.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 06:47 AM
Apr 2015

They shit doesn't pay the rent, keep the country from falling apart, doesn't put a leash on the security state, doesn't stop the war mongering, nor does it stop the corporate capture of our government and domination of democracy.

If you want to see the fans of the rival team pissed try sports.

onecent

(6,096 posts)
22. SPECTACULAR INDEED!!!!!!!!!! Be sure
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 07:28 AM
Apr 2015

to read the entire article.

My FAVORITE sentence...."After all, it’s unlikely anyone in this lifetime will ever match Obama’s otherworldly 2008 run, which had the added thrill of yanking the World’s Worst President off the national stage, once and for all.

She'll get my VOTE!!!!!!

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
23. Otherworldly run, yes - but, the WWP was on his way out anyway
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 07:31 AM
Apr 2015

due to term limits, so there was no "yanking."

onecent

(6,096 posts)
24. Well EXCUUUUUUSSSSE ME, I didn't write it...I just had an
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 07:34 AM
Apr 2015

opinion about it. and the WWP is the best thing I read!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
27. I assumed it would include prescription medications, heavy doses of prescription meds.
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 07:57 AM
Apr 2015

Because that would be what I needed to get excited about a Hillary candidacy.

Why she's exciting? Well, um. Republicans don't like her.

We want to believe that everyone, or at least vast majorities of the population view the Republicans with as much distaste as we do. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026498077

Progressives have to get motivated, or something, because if they don't then the Republicans can win. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026505406

Perhaps if I suffered a massive head injury, then a Hillary Candidacy might be exciting.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
28. ...
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 08:30 AM
Apr 2015
She’s pro-choice, pro-science, pro-gay marriage, pro-environment (well, sort of), pro-women’s rights, pro-immigration reform and very much not an insane anti-science, anti-intellect Tea Party twitch-bot



SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
30. DU rec for Morford...
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 12:27 PM
Apr 2015

My favourite part:

But even better than all of that – and this is, right now anyway, by far the best reason to be excited for her run – is the reaction of her enemies.

Which is to say: Totally. Freaked. Out.




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