Hillary Clinton leads all Republican challengers in Florida by 2-8 points

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Hillary Clinton has leads of 2-8 points over all of the potential GOP contenders in the
state. Rubio comes the closest at just a 48/46 deficit and Bush is down by a similar
margin at 47/44. Rand Paul trails by 4 at 46/42, Mike Huckabee's down 5 at 49/44, Chris
Christie and Ted Cruz each trail by 7 at 48/41 and 49/42 respectively, and Ben Carson
(49/41), Rick Perry (50/42), and Scott Walker (49/41) all lag Clinton by 8 points.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_FL_32415.pdf


There is simply no realistic path to the White House for Republicans without the Sunshine State.

[Android3.14]

1. In other news

My 17-year old would lead the Republican challengers.
The idea that the only person who can beat the Republicans is this weak excuse of a candidate is stupid. We can find a real challenger that reflects real Democratic values and beat these stupid, racist, wealth-stealing assholes. If the DNC and DLC cannot fashion a campaign narrative to win this election to place a true Democrat in the Oval Office, then that was the plan from the start.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. I don't believe I suggested she is the only Democrat capable of defeating the Republican...

I don't believe I suggested she is the only Democrat capable of defeating the Republican, am I right?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

8. Yes. In fact, Hillary the least likely 2 win Fla if only a 2 pt lead on that criminal douchebag Rubio...

Wait til Hillary starts campaigning; her poll numbers will sink even further.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. Do you have polling that suggests that other Democrats are leading?

Do you have polling that suggests that other Democrats are leading a sitting senator and a popular ex governor who left office with an approval ratings in the 60s in their own state (Florida) ?

Thank you in advance.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

48. Referrin 2 Hillary's dreadful poll#s 20 mos out against a crook, Rubio. Hillary w/ 97% name recognition & only dead even w/in margin of error is a bad sign...

...and considering Hillary's history of tanking in the polls as soon as she enters the race and starts campaigning poorly, as is her history, that reality is obviously very concerning. All I'm sayin.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

49. You don't think Rubio has near universal name recognition in the state of Florida among voters?/NT

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

50. No, not universal; certainly not close 2 Hillary. But forget Rubio then, how u explain Rand Paul already w/in the margin of error (4 pts)?

Rand Paul is a virtual unknown and Hillary's negatives will only continue to climb.

It's time for the Dems to rethink coronating Hillary and start lookin for an alternative. I hear Al Gore is thinkin bout making anotha run.

Would make a worthy opponent, among others.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

51. You don't think Florida voters know who Marco Rubio is.

That's the universe of voters that is being measured.


BTW, Barack Obama carried FL by .09% so of course it's going to close.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

52. Agree it will be close with a viable Democratic candidate? Who you like OTHER than Hillary?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

53. Joe Biden is my second choice.

After that, i will vote for the Democrat as I always do but I won't be emotionally invested.

[DrDan]

59. sure hope he does a better job with his #2 this time

he sure went down in my favorables with that choice

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

60. Yeah, can't forget bout LIEberman. Gotta believe Al has matured in his progressive thinking & even he wud rethink that poor #2 choice.

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[Android3.14]

11. Yes. You did.

There is no need to be obtuse.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. I did, then you can point it out.

Thank you in advance.

[Android3.14]

14. I despise intentional ignorance

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The title of the OP is
Hillary Clinton leads all Republican challengers in Florida by 2-8 points

But the title of the actual article is
Floridians Not Big On Bush, Rubio White House Bids

You are welcome.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. What does my choice of a title...

What does my choice of a title have to do with your suggestion that I stated that Secretary Of State Clinton is the only Democratic candidate who can win the presidency in 2016?


The title is a function of the fact that I believe "Hillary Clinton leads all Republican challengers in Florida by 2-8 points" is the most important finding of the poll...

"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."

[1StrongBlackMan]

7. Perhaps you can identify this ...

real challenger that reflects real Democratic values, that has expressed an interest in running in 2016.

Then, discuss what you are doing to support this real challenger that reflects real Democratic values. Why leave it up to the DNC and DLC, that you so clearly distrust?

[Android3.14]

13. Android imagines 1SBM at his keyboard

Hands in ears
"lalalalalalalalala"

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. Do you see any incongruity between your remarks about your interlocutor...

Do you see any incongruity between your remarks about your interlocutor and the quotation in your signature?

[Android3.14]

32. Think about it a little more closely

I never said the person doing the mocking was philosophically impotent.

[NCTraveler]

19. Priceless considering your sig line.

The laugh was worth the time it took to read it.

[Android3.14]

35. There are other ways to read that sig line

The mockery wasn't for me.

[NCTraveler]

44. I wouldn't really go that route.

Actually sounds worse than simply being hypocritical. Take your pick. Original intent and current reading on your part aren't very flattering. Both are also pretty funny.

[leftofcool]

34. Predictable!

[1StrongBlackMan]

41. Then Android3.14 has quite the imagination ...

and it shows.

[LondonReign2]

3. Do you think Henry Kissenger will campaign with her in Florida?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. Do you?

[LondonReign2]

5. No, I suspect she will try to hide this association instead

Which is a little odd, don't you think? She should be proud of her buddy

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. Why don't you contact him and/or her and share with them your perspicacity.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

9. Wouldn't surprise me in the least.

[NCTraveler]

21. About the same percentage chance....

of Warren campaigning in FL with Regan. But you knew that.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. She actually voted to make him National Security Advisor and Sec Of State...

She actually voted to make him National Security Advisor and Sec Of State while Ms. Clinton was working as a young college student for Eugene MCCarthy in 1968 and a Texas organizer with her husband for George McGovern in 1972.

[NCTraveler]

26. Very interesting information.

Lots of ties to republicans. Guess those things happen when you spend a good portion of your adult life cheering and supporting them. Unlike others like the Kissinger commenter above, I understand Warren understands her past errors and is a really good progressive. As is Hillary.

[LondonReign2]

39. Are you inferring that Hillary understands her past errors re Kissenger?

[NCTraveler]

43. I wasn't making inference at all.

Not even really being serious. I really don't take the Benghazi crowd seriously. Just have a little fun with them.

[LondonReign2]

45. Ah, right. Anyone that points out that Hillary has close ties to Kissenger

is part of "the Benghazi crowd".

You folks really need to improve your game.

[NCTraveler]

46. What game.

If you think it is a game, you wouldn't mind discussing Warrens support of deregulation for a good part of her adult life. Her support that helped to implement our current economic crisis. Come on. It's a simple game. You have brought us to Kissinger. Lets talk Regan and his supporters. Both would be stupid to do. That's why I don't get into it. Warren and Hillary are great progressives.

Lets play who is worse. Hillary and Kissinger or Warren and Regan. <- Don't you see how fucking stupid that sounds.

[LondonReign2]

47. Where do they stand NOW?

Yes, Warren admits she was wrong back then. Her positions, now, are quite different. But unless you are telling me Hillary has denounced Kissenger, then there is no comparison. At all. But hey, claiming anyone that points out Hillary's ties to Kissenger is part of "the Benghazi crowd" is a nice touch.

"Lets play who is worse. Hillary and Kissinger or Warren and Regan. <- Don't you see how fucking stupid that sounds." Who is Regan that you keep referring to?

[djean111]

15. Hillary got my Florida primary vote last time. Even though it did not count.

She will not get my primary vote this time.

[hrmjustin]

17. How dare her for being ahead!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. It seems it is upsetting some people.

How can any Democrat leading a Republican be welcomed with derision on a Democratic board?

[hrmjustin]

22. At this point I think s lot of the posters who don't want her to be the nominee are not happy

how the opposition is shapping up in the party and that is why some are angry.

I think most of them will support the nominee but they want a vivigorous primary anf at this point that does not look to be happening.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. I don't see anybody being prohibited from running.

As to supporting the eventual nominee of the party that's between them and their moral and political compasses...

[hrmjustin]

28. Well said.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

29. I don't belong to the "HRC or else" school...

Because it's counterproductive, futile, and it's between a person and his or her political and moral compass...

[hrmjustin]

30. Fair enough.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. Their hearts are in the right place but folks will do what folks will do...

IMHO, elections are more about getting those inclined to vote for you to go to their polling places and actually vote for you than persuading voters who are inclined to vote against you to vote for you...

I see a winning coalition waiting for Ms. Clinton that is waiting to be tapped and it's up to her to tap it.

[hrmjustin]

33. I also see the Senate and House in our hands if she is the nominee.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

36. I haven't looked closely lately

But most folks say the House is out of reach due to gerrymandering until the next census in 2020.

[hrmjustin]

37. TBD but it can go Democratic.

The senTe will be easier.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

38. Since all bills originate in the House there will be a lot of gridlock./NT

[cali]

23. 2-8 points lead over a year and a half before the election is not exactly reassuring.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. Yet in her own home state she is leading her Republican challengers by thirty points

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/new-york-state/release-detail?ReleaseID=2179


That suggests, among other things, that Ms. Clinton is vastly more popular with her former constituents than Mr. Rubio is with his present constituents and Mr. Bush is with his former constituents.

[JackRiddler]

62. It's a joke because...

Hillary has as good as 100% name recognition, and surely higher than Biden.

The average Republican troll, other than Bush, something like 30-50%.

Warren, probably around 30-40%.

Plus we all know from the history of every other damn election that these polls swing back and forth and back again constantly and only in the final months and weeks do they acquire any meaning.

[Thinkingabout]

40. Good post, facts are facts, ready for Hillary.

[JackRiddler]

63. These are not facts.

[bullwinkle428]

42. "Two points" translates to "close enough to steal" for Republicans.

Rick Scott probably just got a boner, given his propensity for theft.

[Maedhros]

54. Well, she is the best Republican on the ticket. [n/t]

[DemocratSinceBirth]

55. Perspicacious./NT

[still_one]

56. 2-8% is nothing. Actually that is quite disturbing.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

57. Barack Obama carried it by .09% in 012/ FL is actually more red than purple...

The governor is a R...All the Cabinet members are R*. The Senate is R dominated and the House ir R dominated. The congressional delegation is R dominated.

Bill Nelson is the only major Democratic office holder in the state.


*I believe so.

[still_one]

58. It did not used to be that way

[JackRiddler]

61. Is this any better than Generic Democrat?

Did this poll ask how other unannounced candidates (which HRC still is) would do against all these unannounced Republicans? I checked, and while Hillary is matched against many others, it is only after her name is repeated many times before Biden and Warren are each checked against one Republican each. This is not a valid methodology.