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babylonsister

(171,111 posts)
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 09:31 AM Mar 2015

Stop Making Us Guinea Pigs

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/25/opinion/stop-making-us-guinea-pigs.html?emc=eta1&_r=1

Stop Making Us Guinea Pigs
Mark Bittman
MARCH 25, 2015


The issues surrounding G.M.O.s — genetically modified organisms — have never been simple. They became more complicated last week when the International Agency for Research on Cancer declared that glyphosate, the active ingredient in the widely used herbicide Roundup, probably causes cancer in humans. Two insecticides, malathion and diazinon, were also classified as “probable” carcinogens by the agency, a respected arm of the World Health Organization.

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Now that the safety of glyphosate is clearly in question, perhaps it’s time to mandate that the corporation — not the taxpaying public — bear the brunt of determining whether it should still be sold. Since the Environmental Protection Agency doesn’t have the resources to test, let Monsanto pay for the necessary, and independent, research.

While we’re at it, let’s finally start labeling products made with genetically engineered food. Right now, the only way we can be sure to avoid them is to buy organic food. If G.M.O.s were largely beneficial to eaters, manufacturers would proudly boast of products containing them. The fact is that they have not. To date, G.M.O.s and other forms of biotech have done nothing but enrich their manufacturers and promote a system of agriculture that’s neither sustainable nor for the most part beneficial.

We don’t need better, smarter chemicals along with crops that can tolerate them; we need fewer chemicals. And it’s been adequately demonstrated that crop rotation, the use of organic fertilizers, interplanting of varieties of crops, and other ecologically informed techniques commonly grouped together under the term “agroecology” can effectively reduce the use of chemicals.

Meanwhile, how about getting glyphosate off the market until Monsanto can prove that it’s safe to use? There’s no reason to put the general population, and particularly the farming population, at risk for the sake of industry profits.



Correction: March 25, 2015
An earlier version of this column incorrectly described thalidomide as a product the government failed to ensure was safe before it went to market. The drug, which was linked to thousands of birth defects in other countries in the 1950s and 1960s, was never approved for use in the United States as a sedative. (The F.D.A. has approved its use to treat multiple myeloma and a complication of leprosy.)
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NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
1. Monsanto has paid for studies on glyphosate. They've shown no link to cancer.
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 10:27 AM
Mar 2015

The EPA and damn near every regulatory agency in the developed world has found no link to cancer.

BUT

Seralini published a study that linked glyphosate to tumors in rats. That study was retracted. Since the IARC seems to reach this classification due to evidence of carcinogenicity in experimental animals, contrary to damn near everyone else's findings, it calls the whole thing into question.

Bittman quite obviously has an agenda, as evidenced by his ridiculous chemophobia.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
2. Looked him up, Bittman is a 'food journalist'.
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 10:39 AM
Mar 2015

So are you saying he has a pro-organic agenda? I don't know how a food journalist is considered a chemist or would know about such things. Then again, this is the first I've heard the term 'flexitarian' diet. Obviously he makes his money from cooking food, but that doesn't mean he is a chemist. I was expecting to see an advanced degree in chemistry or something similar.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
3. Given what he's written here, I would certainly say he's pro-organic.
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 10:44 AM
Mar 2015

And don't get me wrong, I have absolutely nothing against him as a food journalist; I've used several of his Vegan Before 6 recipes and loved them. But he's not a chemist, and on top of everything, the IARC study hasn't even been fully released yet.

babylonsister

(171,111 posts)
4. So did I and you are correct.
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 10:49 AM
Mar 2015

No, he's not a chemist, but I for one am glad he's raising an alarm. As a cancer survivor, all of this concerns me greatly.

Also ran across this:

http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2015/03/bittman-right-its-not-gmos-its-how-theyre-used

The Real Reason to Worry About GMOs

—By Tom Philpott
| Thu Mar. 26, 2015 6:00 AM EDT


In a recent column, The New York Times' Mark Bittman makes an important point about the controversy around genetically modified foods. "{T}o date there's little credible evidence that any food grown with genetic engineering techniques is dangerous to human health," he writes. Yet the way the technology has been used—mainly, to engineer crops that can withstand herbicides—is deeply problematic, he argues.

Here's why I think Bittman's point is crucial.
The below chart, from the pro-biotech the International Service for the Acquisition of Agri-biotech Applications, gives a snapshot of what types of GMO crops farmers were planting as of 2012. In more recent reports, the ISAAA doesn't break out its data in the same way, but it's a fair assumption that things are roughly similar three years later, given that no GMO blockbusters have entered the market since.



If you add up all the herbicide-tolerant crops on the list, you find that about 69 percent of global GM acres are planted with crops engineered to withstand herbicides. But that's an undercount, because the GM products listed as "stacked traits" are engineered to repel insects (the Bt trait) and to withstand herbicides. Adding those acres in, the grand total comes to something like 84 percent of global biotech acres devoted to crops that can flourish when doused with weed killers—chemicals that are sold by the very same companies that sell the GMO seeds.
More than four-fifths of global biotech acres devoted to crops that can flourish when doused with weed killers.

As Bittman points out, almost all of the herbicide-tolerant crops on the market to date have been engineered to resist a single herbicide, glyphosate. And weeds have evolved to resist that herbicide, forcing farmers to apply heavier doses and or added older, more toxic chemicals to the mix.

Rather than reconsider the wisdom of committing tens of millions of acres to crops developed to resist a single herbicide, the industry plans to double down
: Monsanto and rival Dow will both be marketing crops next year engineered to withstand both glyphosate and more-toxic herbicides—even though scientists like Penn State's David Mortensen are convinced that the new products are "likely to increase the severity of resistant weeds" and "facilitate a significant increase in herbicide use."

Meanwhile, unhappily, the World Health Organization has recently decreed glyphosate, sold by Monsanto under the Roundup brand name, a "probable carcinogen"—a designation Monsanto is vigorously trying to get rescinded.

So, given that 20 years after GM crops first appeared on farm fields, something like four-fifths of global biotech acres are still devoted to herbicide-tolerant crops, Bittman's unease about how the technology has been deployed seems warranted. It's true that genetically altered apples and potatoes that don't brown as rapidly when they’re sliced will soon hit the market. They may prove to be a benign development. But it's doubtful that they'll spread over enough acres to rival herbicide-tolerant crops anytime soon. And humanity has thrived for millennia despite the scourge of fast-browning apples and potatoes. The same isn't true for ever-increasing deluges of toxic herbicides.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
5. Then target the problem.
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 10:56 AM
Mar 2015

If the problem is glyphosate, then ban glyphosate.

Banning GMOs over glyphosate is like banning cars over accidents caused by cell phones.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
7. Thanks for the info, that helps put thing into perspective for me.
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 11:00 AM
Mar 2015

I've always been for open transparency in labeling. No matter WHAT the food is made out of or sprayed with. Organic or GMO or anything else.

babylonsister

(171,111 posts)
11. Did you read it?
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 01:47 PM
Mar 2015
...the International Agency for Research on Cancer declared that glyphosate, the active ingredient in the widely used herbicide Roundup, probably causes cancer in humans. Two insecticides, malathion and diazinon, were also classified as “probable” carcinogens by the agency, a respected arm of the World Health Organization.

progressoid

(50,020 posts)
12. I meant the Mother Jones article.
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 02:23 PM
Mar 2015

And while the IARC pdf says it probably causes cancer, it also states "The general population is exposed primarily through residence near sprayed areas, home use, and diet, and the level that has been observed is generally low".

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
6. There's also the different roles of the regulatory entities.
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 10:58 AM
Mar 2015

The WHO's list is essentially things that might cause cancer at any concentration.

The EPA and similar entities would have to figure out if there is a safe concentration and regulate based on that.

And for people who think the WHO's decision means we must ban it now, you better get to work banning the other things in that category. Like shift work.

 

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
8. 100,000,000 Guinea Pigs
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 11:07 AM
Mar 2015
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100,000,000 Guinea Pigs: Dangers in Everyday Foods, Drugs, and Cosmetics is a book written by Arthur Kallet and F.J. Schlink first released in 1933 by the Vanguard Press and manufactured in the United States of America. Its central argument propounds that the American population is being used as guinea pigs in a giant experiment undertaken by the American producers of food stuffs and patent medicines and the like. Kallet and Schlink premise the book as being “written in the interest of the consumer, who does not yet realize that he is being used as a guinea pig…”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100,000,000_Guinea_Pigs

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
13. FYI: Apple K Kosher certified products are required to be GMO-free (plus organic & Non-GMO Project).
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 02:29 PM
Mar 2015
http://www.loc.gov/law/help/restrictions-on-gmos/israel.php

In the United States, the Natural Food Certifiers (NFC) Organization, announced that its Apple K Kosher Certification Program would no longer accept applications for products that contain GMOs.(25)

MORE: http://www.loc.gov/law/help/restrictions-on-gmos/

http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/Regulation/Star-K-adds-non-GMO-certification-to-its-kosher-and-organic-audits
http://nfccertification.info/nfc-apple-kosher/nfc-announces-no-gmo-kosher-policy/ (appears to be non-working press release link)
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