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(86,016 posts)
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 10:33 AM Mar 2015

The Good, The Bad and The Infuriating Aspects of Ted Cruz Signing Up for Obamacare

Deanie Mills ?@deaniemills
Republicans claim "It's the law," like Cruz had no choice. NOT TRUE. Show them THIS: http://thedailybanter.com/2015/03/the-good-the-bad-and-the-infuriating-aspects-of-ted-cruz-signing-up-for-obamacare/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


On one hand, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) signing up for an Obamacare health insurance policy is fantastic news. As we discussed yesterday, Cruz had a number of options at his disposal after losing his health insurance coverage due to his wife taking a leave of absence from Goldman Sachs. And no, he isn’t required to buy an Obamacare policy, so he absolutely had options...

If Cruz doesn’t have to sign up for an Obamacare plan, what were Cruz’s other non-Obamacare options?

He could’ve immediately enrolled in COBRA, which would’ve allowed Cruz and his wife to keep their existing policy. He could’ve signed up for an Obamacare policy as an individual, like some members of Congress are doing to sidestep the so-called “illegal” premium sharing plan implemented by the OPM (continuing the policy of premium sharing from Congress’ previous health insurance program). Or he could’ve simply enrolled directly with an insurance provider in his state.

And what did Cruz choose instead of all of these alternatives? He chose his arch-nemesis: Obamacare. Why? Because none of the above options would’ve included the 72 percent premium sharing from the government. And the plans offers, probably one of the Gold-level plans is likely comparable to his wife’s Goldman Sachs plan. So, not only did Cruz basically endorse the Obamacare option, but he did so in part because of Obama’s allegedly impeachment-worthy decision to continue the premium sharing plan for Congress.

All told, this was almost a de facto endorsement of Obamacare. Ted Cruz, of all people, thinks Obamacare is the best deal for his family. The hypocrisy angle is almost a sideshow compared with this. Cruz filibustered Obamacare. He helped force a government shutdown over Obamacare. He’s lied dozens of times about Obamacare. And now he’s basically saying, “Hey, this Obamacare thing and the employer premium thing that I’m opposed to — really great deal!” So, again, for a rabid Obamacare enemy to pull off an inadvertent Nixon-to-China moment is a huge endorsement of the law.

On the other hand, it should also infuriate anyone who has an insurance policy due to or via Obamacare...


read more: http://thedailybanter.com/2015/03/the-good-the-bad-and-the-infuriating-aspects-of-ted-cruz-signing-up-for-obamacare/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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The Good, The Bad and The Infuriating Aspects of Ted Cruz Signing Up for Obamacare (Original Post) bigtree Mar 2015 OP
Something fishy here... CanonRay Mar 2015 #1
read the article bigtree Mar 2015 #2
Senator Cruz' anti-ACA talk was bullshit for the rubes, and he just proved it. Orsino Mar 2015 #5
I don't get this either. He's a Senator. He can sign her up under his good federal insurance Nay Mar 2015 #4
Congress and their staff are no longer in FEHB n/t SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2015 #9
Congress and their staff are no longer in FEHB n/t SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2015 #8
Should be a fun topic in the debates. Kalidurga Mar 2015 #3
» bigtree Mar 2015 #6
He said he's not taking the premium share SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2015 #7
so they must be purchasing it in Texas bigtree Mar 2015 #10
Eligible, but they don't have to take the subsidy SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2015 #11
wel, they don't need them bigtree Mar 2015 #12
Not saying they do SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2015 #13
point taken bigtree Mar 2015 #14
Ted Cruz... Rex Mar 2015 #15

CanonRay

(14,141 posts)
1. Something fishy here...
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 10:36 AM
Mar 2015

He is a Federal Employee and so has the Fed health care. His wife losing her job would, I believe, constitute an event allowing him to sign her up as a dependent even though it is not open season. So why is he opting for Obama care instead of FEHB? I don't trust this lunatic.

bigtree

(86,016 posts)
2. read the article
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 10:43 AM
Mar 2015

...Obamacare happens to be his best option; namely, the 72% premium sharing from the government. It's that simple, and it highlights his own particular hypocrisy.

There's an assumption that this man is super crafty, or something. To me, he's just another lying republican buffoon who loves to hear himself talk and doesn't believe half the bullshit he spouts.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
5. Senator Cruz' anti-ACA talk was bullshit for the rubes, and he just proved it.
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 10:53 AM
Mar 2015

Would be fun to keep chalkenging him on this point until he's forced to change his plan again.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
4. I don't get this either. He's a Senator. He can sign her up under his good federal insurance
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 10:45 AM
Mar 2015

because of her 'life event' of quitting her job. Isn't anybody asking these questions?

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
3. Should be a fun topic in the debates.
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 10:44 AM
Mar 2015

Unfortunately you know it will be Republicans hammering him on this and Democrats won't get the chance.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
11. Eligible, but they don't have to take the subsidy
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 07:10 PM
Mar 2015

There are a number of members of Congress that aren't taking the subsidies.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
13. Not saying they do
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 07:19 PM
Mar 2015

just pointing out that the premise that Cruz signed up for the ACA to get the subsidy doesn't really hold water if he isn't taking the subsidy.

bigtree

(86,016 posts)
14. point taken
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 07:46 PM
Mar 2015

...he's still getting a good deal, paying less than he otherwise would. I suspect that's the reason he and his wife signed up, not some ingenious plan to turn the tables by pointing to some non-existent flaw and exploiting it in some sort of cynical kabuki theater.

Reports are that he's 'likely' to or 'might' enroll in Texas. We'll see. If he does enroll in Texas, it takes away the excuse he and fellow conservatives have been making that Obamacare 'wiped out' the individual market. He can choose to purchase insurance choosing from dozens of Texas plans.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
15. Ted Cruz...
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 07:54 PM
Mar 2015


What a lying sack of shit!

"The Affordable Care Act does not compel members of Congress to enroll in DC’s health care exchange; it simply cuts off the government contribution to their insurance plans if they buy their policies elsewhere. “The final rule extends a Government contribution towards health benefits plans for Members of Congress and designated congressional staff so long as the health benefits plans are purchased via the appropriate SHOP as determined by the Director,” a summary of the final rule says. “Nothing in the final rule or the law prevents a Member of Congress or designated congressional staff from declining a Government contribution for him or herself by choosing a different option for their health insurance coverage.”

In other words, Cruz “could purchase coverage in the outside market but would get no subsidy from the FEHBP program,” Tim Jost clarified for ThinkProgress, referring to the acronym for the federal health care program. “It seems like the primary other option he would have is to take advantage of COBRA through his wife, though he’d be forgoing the employer contribution. He could also buy non-group coverage,” Larry Levitt, Senior Vice President at the Kaiser Family Foundation, said. Cruz could also potentially purchased insurance through his presidential campaign’s presumptive health care insurance. In those instances, however, he would have had to give up his employer’s contribution and likely pay more for insurance than he is now being charged under Obamacare.

Despite initially telling CNN’s Dana Bash that Cruz didn’t pursue other alternatives because “Obamacare has wiped out the individual market, leaving Cruz with few options,” his staff is now explaining to reporters that Cruz might skip the DC exchange and sign up for coverage in Texas, through that state’s federal exchange. “As it happens, Cruz appears likely to forego the 75 percent employer contribution he could get as a member of Congress and instead access Obamacare from Texas, which doesn’t have a state exchange,” The Daily Caller reports, adding, “That means Cruz would use HealthCare.gov to get health insurance, at the same time the Supreme Court is considering ruling taxpayer [subsidies] for federal exchange customers illegal.”

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/03/25/3638697/ted-cruz-wants-believe-hes-legally-required-sign-obamacare-hes-totally-wrong/
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