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Xipe Totec

(43,892 posts)
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 07:38 PM Mar 2015

Astronomia watch costs $500,000+

Inside the Astronomia Tourbillon domed sapphire case, a spinning 288-sided diamond represents the moon, which orbits around a hand-painted model of the earth as they both rotate around the centre once every 20 minutes.

Meanwhile, the brains of the watch - a part known as the tourbillon - projects out in another direction, spinning across three axes simultaneously, while a revolving watch face on a fourth arm completes the celestial choreography.





http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-31966690


It's stuff like this that makes me think perhaps it's time to eat the rich.
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Astronomia watch costs $500,000+ (Original Post) Xipe Totec Mar 2015 OP
It's stuff like this that occasionally leads to great things which are actually pipoman Mar 2015 #1
Skip the intermediate step and move straight to the needed and useful... Xipe Totec Mar 2015 #3
There isn't enough money to R&D without a deep pocket full of disposable cash... pipoman Mar 2015 #13
I see that and I see art. Vincardog Mar 2015 #2
Same here. No beefs about this. hifiguy Mar 2015 #4
Because without a 288 facet diamond how could it possibly be considered art. Xipe Totec Mar 2015 #5
With a 288 facet diamond it isn't art? pipoman Mar 2015 #14
No. It's in your face opulence Xipe Totec Mar 2015 #19
I have no boundaries...art can have no boundaries pipoman Mar 2015 #24
Have you considered how many kids can go to college for $500k? Xipe Totec Mar 2015 #28
I assure you that kids going to college isn't going to be affected in any way pipoman Mar 2015 #29
I'm pretty sure Paul Gauguin didn't get 300 million bucks for that painting Xipe Totec Mar 2015 #35
Why shouldn't he have? pipoman Mar 2015 #43
The point is he DIDN'T. Xipe Totec Mar 2015 #45
Yeah, price tag aside LittleBlue Mar 2015 #44
That is absolutely beautiful. JaneyVee Mar 2015 #6
That's a work of art, not a retail item jberryhill Mar 2015 #7
Oh, but it is a retail item. That's the point. Xipe Totec Mar 2015 #8
I doubt anyone is going to wear that watch jberryhill Mar 2015 #10
If I was on a date with Kate Upton or whoever, I'd wear it Blue_Tires Mar 2015 #16
Why? Does she charge by the hour? jberryhill Mar 2015 #21
No the purpose is to illustrate and celebrate the finest mechanical arts and craftsmanship. Vincardog Mar 2015 #12
yep pipoman Mar 2015 #15
I thought that was the point of the discussion. Xipe Totec Mar 2015 #37
What isn't a "retail item"? Ever heard of "starving artists"? pipoman Mar 2015 #31
Never heard of starving artists selling a watch for $500k Xipe Totec Mar 2015 #32
why does it matter? pipoman Mar 2015 #34
If it doesn't matter, why are you arguing? Xipe Totec Mar 2015 #36
I'm not the one arguing that art has boundaries... pipoman Mar 2015 #42
Archimedes would have loved it (speculated inventor of the Antikythera mechanism) on point Mar 2015 #9
The history of timepieces is the history of humankind. I almost passed out at the museum in Geneva. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #11
This is one of my greatest appreciations pipoman Mar 2015 #20
That's what I'm talking about, and much older, too. I think more than the gears and the parts I saw NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #26
It's pretty cool. OnyxCollie Mar 2015 #17
It's gorgeous, insanely intricate, and has no business being strapped to anyone's wrist derby378 Mar 2015 #18
So, no Apple Watch for you? brooklynite Mar 2015 #22
Correct. Xipe Totec Mar 2015 #38
Would they do one about 12 times that size? jmowreader Mar 2015 #23
That would be a sight to behold Xipe Totec Mar 2015 #41
Catching up with the Ancients. Downwinder Mar 2015 #25
So all it does is repeat the same motions over and over again? Without the diamond it is a watch. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #27
Cost, price is immaterial, irrelevant. VScott Mar 2015 #30
I'm sure the craftsmen (craftspeople?) who created these works are not getting all the money Xipe Totec Mar 2015 #33
gorgeous watch Liberal_in_LA Mar 2015 #39
Yes, true. Xipe Totec Mar 2015 #40
Just a spectacular piece, all around Godhumor Mar 2015 #46
That would make a cool hood ornament. Throd Mar 2015 #47
As an Amateur astronomer, the earth/moon thing is rather silly. It seems to represent something... BlueJazz Mar 2015 #48
 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
1. It's stuff like this that occasionally leads to great things which are actually
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 07:42 PM
Mar 2015

needed and useful..

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
24. I have no boundaries...art can have no boundaries
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 09:02 PM
Mar 2015

Have you considered the unimaginable skill and talent it takes to make something like this from raw materials? How much time it would take? What is the value of talent like that? To me considering pro sports salaries, actors, musicians, even auto restoration pros, etc. And considering the cost of the raw materials I see not a single thing wrong with the $500k price tag (in the whole scheme of opulence $500k isn't all that much these days) And artistry? It really can't be denied..

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
29. I assure you that kids going to college isn't going to be affected in any way
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 09:51 PM
Mar 2015

With or without the existence of this magnificent demonstration of human ingenuity..any more than with this $300 million masterpiece..

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
44. Yeah, price tag aside
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 10:53 PM
Mar 2015

that is beautiful. Like some magical clockwork device out of a fantasy novel.

Xipe Totec

(43,892 posts)
8. Oh, but it is a retail item. That's the point.
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 07:55 PM
Mar 2015

Regardless of the craftsmanship involved in creating it, or the artistry of the watchmakers, the purpose of that object is to be a status symbol on some rich dork's wrist.

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
12. No the purpose is to illustrate and celebrate the finest mechanical arts and craftsmanship.
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 08:03 PM
Mar 2015

Whether art is or should be for sale to the highest bidder is a philosophical discussion.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
31. What isn't a "retail item"? Ever heard of "starving artists"?
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 10:09 PM
Mar 2015

It isn't by choice nor because every work they have done isn't for sale...

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
42. I'm not the one arguing that art has boundaries...
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 10:49 PM
Mar 2015

I could understand maybe some form of disgust for the opulence, not an inability to appreciate the mastery and beauty..ever seen a Fabergé egg? And what about the value of the maker's talent in the whole scheme of people earning more than their worth? Sports figures, CEOs, musicians, etc?

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
11. The history of timepieces is the history of humankind. I almost passed out at the museum in Geneva.
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 07:59 PM
Mar 2015

A little clock museum, the musee de horologie.

As an engineer and prototype maker, looking at the quality of craftsmanship of hundreds of years old timepieces was overwhelming and I had to go outside and catch my breath.

The feeling, the experience, was overwhelming and I've never felt that way before or since, and have seen some remarkable paintings and artifacts.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
20. This is one of my greatest appreciations
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 08:30 PM
Mar 2015

That is, the level of human perfection, ingenuity, and ability...no where is it more apparent than in the study of pre 20th century horology...made in a time with no power tools or even clean artificial lighting...incredible...



made, in it's entirety, with no electricity

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
26. That's what I'm talking about, and much older, too. I think more than the gears and the parts I saw
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 09:07 PM
Mar 2015

More than the sheer perfection of the tiny identical teeth gears smaller than my thumb, was the fact that on spokes or the perimeter of some of the gears were engravings!

Tiny perfect words written in script on the tiny part. OMG.

http://institutions.ville-geneve.ch/fr/mah/collections-publications/collections/domaines/horlogerie/?new_message=1




derby378

(30,252 posts)
18. It's gorgeous, insanely intricate, and has no business being strapped to anyone's wrist
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 08:15 PM
Mar 2015

It would make a great museum piece, though. I'm enough of a gearhead to appreciate the craftsmanship.

jmowreader

(50,587 posts)
23. Would they do one about 12 times that size?
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 08:51 PM
Mar 2015

You KNOW these things are built to order...can you imagine one of these about a foot in diameter, sitting on a marble pedestal in the middle of a science museum?

Xipe Totec

(43,892 posts)
41. That would be a sight to behold
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 10:33 PM
Mar 2015

As it is, the only glimpse we will ever have of this watch is youtube videos and gif files.

Except for the elite.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
27. So all it does is repeat the same motions over and over again? Without the diamond it is a watch.
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 09:09 PM
Mar 2015

What I find interesting is what goes into making ads to sell stuff only affordable to billionaires?

It is one thing to make ads to sell a Timex, but to make an ad to sell the appropriately named AstronoMEa?

 

VScott

(774 posts)
30. Cost, price is immaterial, irrelevant.
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 10:06 PM
Mar 2015

That's not the point (well, maybe to you it is).

The fact that there are still people out there that can still produce this level of achievement of engineering
art, design and craftsmanship is amazing.

There are probably a handful of men and women in the world capable of designing and constructing something like that.

It's something that should be encouraged and admired, not admonished.

Xipe Totec

(43,892 posts)
33. I'm sure the craftsmen (craftspeople?) who created these works are not getting all the money
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 10:18 PM
Mar 2015

Or even most of it.

I daresay they are probably anonymous outside their respective labor pods.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
48. As an Amateur astronomer, the earth/moon thing is rather silly. It seems to represent something...
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 11:13 PM
Mar 2015

...that is just for looks. If the "moon" actually went around the earth with the correct rotation/time, I'd give it more credibility .

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