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Playinghardball

(11,665 posts)
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 05:15 PM Mar 2015

Which is the best slogan on saving the environment in California or, do you have a better one?

or, do you have a better one?

1. A drop of water is worth more than a sack of gold to a thirsty man.

2. Don’t let the water run in the sink, our life’s on the brink!.

3. Water = Life, Conservation = Future!

4. When you conserve water, you conserve life!

5. Water, water everywhere but not a drop to drink Just think about it.

6. You are 60% water. Save 60% of YOURSELF.

7. We never know the worth of water till the well is dry. Save Water!!

8. SAVE WATER – Don’t waste the world’s blood.

9. Walk in the desert, you will realize the cost of Water.

10. Waste water today – Live in desert tomorrow

11. Saving water one drop at a time

12. Save water, it will save you later!

13. Don’t let the water run in the sink, our life’s on the brink!

14. Put a stop to the drop

15. Don't waste it, just taste it!

16. Save water! Save Life!

17. Save water…it doesn’t grow on trees

18. Save water, secure the future

19. Rainwater tank, won’t break the bank

20. Saving water can save the world

21. Stop the drip to save the drop

22. Don’t be a fool, cover your pool

23. It’s only good until the last drop, than what?

24. Water for the future generations….priceless

25. Save Water…..It’s not just a drop in the bucket

26. Think outside the sink!

27. Water covers two-thirds of the surface of the Earth, but Fresh water is 0.002% on Earth

28. No water, NO BEER!

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Which is the best slogan on saving the environment in California or, do you have a better one? (Original Post) Playinghardball Mar 2015 OP
"Welcome to 'Exceeded Carrying Capacity-Ville'" NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #1
28a. No WINE, either! KamaAina Mar 2015 #2
The more the grapes suffer the better the wine! anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 #23
Xposted to California group KamaAina Mar 2015 #3
I like #15 best. NT Trillo Mar 2015 #4
Sorry but slogans are SHIT and all the bumper stickers in the world won't save CA. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #5
a train will save the water? ND-Dem Mar 2015 #24
I was being facetious. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #25
#29. Household use accounts for only 20% of water usage in California. Hekate Mar 2015 #6
Less Than 20% The River Mar 2015 #10
Thanks. They just don't believe us, do they? nt Hekate Mar 2015 #12
Save our water, stop fracking! Dont call me Shirley Mar 2015 #7
WATER - Can't live without it! KT2000 Mar 2015 #8
So why does not California have desalinization plants all up and down the coast? anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 #9
See posts 6 and 10. Getting desal to the Central Valley will make your lettuce and beef.... Hekate Mar 2015 #11
Yes it is but that is only becasue the known problem of running out of water was ignored for decades anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 #13
Beef more so than lettuce KamaAina Mar 2015 #15
The stat I saw for water usage said agribusiness 72% and did not break it out anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 #16
And California exports more dairy than beef KamaAina Mar 2015 #17
Actually, a desal solution for the Valley has already been worked out by engineers. Xithras Mar 2015 #18
And generate hydro by doing so KamaAina Mar 2015 #19
I don't think anyone in government is seriously looking at it yet. Xithras Mar 2015 #20
Of course not. KamaAina Mar 2015 #21
Or these KamaAina Mar 2015 #14
You Don't Miss Your Water 'Til Your Well Runs Dry---The Byrds panader0 Mar 2015 #22
Shower with a friend underpants Mar 2015 #26
Take the high-speed rail -- to some place with water. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #27
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NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. "Welcome to 'Exceeded Carrying Capacity-Ville'"
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 05:24 PM
Mar 2015

At the end of the day, all of our problems come from overpopulation and the hubris it's taken to deploy one technology after another in the furtherance of development and growth.

Water projects, highway projects, and, now, proposals to build desalination plants rather than swift action to cut water use for landscaping (50% of residential water use).

We need to stop thinking that more technology will get us out of the problems created by arrogance in the use of prior technologies to "master" our environment.

The state and the country (and the planet) should make zero population growth a priority.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
5. Sorry but slogans are SHIT and all the bumper stickers in the world won't save CA.
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 05:36 PM
Mar 2015

Our (and I say this as a Native Californian) only hope is Jerry Brown's hundred-billion dollar not-so-high-speed train.

Yup.

Hekate

(91,005 posts)
6. #29. Household use accounts for only 20% of water usage in California.
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 05:36 PM
Mar 2015

Almost all the rest of it is Agribusiness. California feeds the nation. How about the nation helps us out?

The River

(2,615 posts)
10. Less Than 20%
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 06:41 PM
Mar 2015

This graph shows it in better detail. It's not residential users who need to cut back.

 

anotojefiremnesuka

(198 posts)
9. So why does not California have desalinization plants all up and down the coast?
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 06:41 PM
Mar 2015

The technology is not new,


Slogan

Water, without it you die within 3 days.


Hekate

(91,005 posts)
11. See posts 6 and 10. Getting desal to the Central Valley will make your lettuce and beef....
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 06:49 PM
Mar 2015

....astronomically expensive. Look at a geological map -- California is big and has many very high mountains to cross on the way inland.

I see some desal in the near future, but it will be a drop in the bucket.

 

anotojefiremnesuka

(198 posts)
13. Yes it is but that is only becasue the known problem of running out of water was ignored for decades
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 07:03 PM
Mar 2015

so how much does Californians want to pay for a gallon of water? I am sure private industry will have no problem selling it to the residents.

The state may want to talk to Canada they have one of the largest fresh water reserves in the world.

or agribusiness is going to have to get rationed and they grow less

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
15. Beef more so than lettuce
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 07:05 PM
Mar 2015

Most lettuce comes from the Salinas Valley, quite a bit closer to the coast. In fact, Sand City in Monterey County has a desal plant online.

 

anotojefiremnesuka

(198 posts)
16. The stat I saw for water usage said agribusiness 72% and did not break it out
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 07:08 PM
Mar 2015

Americans eat too much beef anyway we need to eat less anyway

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
18. Actually, a desal solution for the Valley has already been worked out by engineers.
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 07:11 PM
Mar 2015

Basically, the concept proposes that a massive saltwater intake pipe be run across the bottom of the SF Bay from the Golden Gate to somewhere around Antioch. Desal plants at Antioch could then feed water directly into the existing Cal Aqueduct a short distance away at Tracy. The vertical lift between Antioch and Tracy is only 30 feet.

The long intake pipe is required to avoid altering the current flows in the SF Bay and Delta, but its construction would be fairly straightforward as it is simply separating two bodies of water with different salinity levels (the water inside the pipe would be saltier than the Bay).

Large scale solar arrays on the dry eastern slope of the Coast Range would be above the fog layer and produce energy year round in one of the highest areas of solar potential in the state. New reservoirs built in the currently dry canyons in the same areas could not only store the water (the same way San Luis currently does), but could be utilized to create a downhill flow to feed water across a substantial portion of the western Valley.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
19. And generate hydro by doing so
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 07:13 PM
Mar 2015

I like very much! This is the first I have heard of such a thing.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
20. I don't think anyone in government is seriously looking at it yet.
Tue Mar 24, 2015, 07:27 PM
Mar 2015

It was proposed by a bunch of engineers in the Bay Area a couple of years ago after they got tired of hearing the "it's impossible" line. It's entirely possible.

The crux of their idea is that the solar panels would be able to power the desalinization year round, including during the winter when agriculture is mostly dormant in the Valley. Water production would exceed consumption during the winter, allowing those reservoirs to slowly fill. When the growing season started and water use spikes, demand would exceed anything that a desal plant could hope to keep up with, so the reservoirs would be drawn down again. They couldn't support ag and inland water needs on their own, but they would be used alongside existing water storage to expand our overall capacity.

The desal plants required to make this work would end up being the largest ever constructed, but if the alternative is economic devastation and desertification of the inland regions of the state, I don't see how we have a lot of choice.

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