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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhich is the best slogan on saving the environment in California or, do you have a better one?
or, do you have a better one?1. A drop of water is worth more than a sack of gold to a thirsty man.
2. Dont let the water run in the sink, our lifes on the brink!.
3. Water = Life, Conservation = Future!
4. When you conserve water, you conserve life!
5. Water, water everywhere but not a drop to drink Just think about it.
6. You are 60% water. Save 60% of YOURSELF.
7. We never know the worth of water till the well is dry. Save Water!!
8. SAVE WATER Dont waste the worlds blood.
9. Walk in the desert, you will realize the cost of Water.
10. Waste water today Live in desert tomorrow
11. Saving water one drop at a time
12. Save water, it will save you later!
13. Dont let the water run in the sink, our lifes on the brink!
14. Put a stop to the drop
15. Don't waste it, just taste it!
16. Save water! Save Life!
17. Save water it doesnt grow on trees
18. Save water, secure the future
19. Rainwater tank, wont break the bank
20. Saving water can save the world
21. Stop the drip to save the drop
22. Dont be a fool, cover your pool
23. Its only good until the last drop, than what?
24. Water for the future generations .priceless
25. Save Water ..Its not just a drop in the bucket
26. Think outside the sink!
27. Water covers two-thirds of the surface of the Earth, but Fresh water is 0.002% on Earth
28. No water, NO BEER!
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)At the end of the day, all of our problems come from overpopulation and the hubris it's taken to deploy one technology after another in the furtherance of development and growth.
Water projects, highway projects, and, now, proposals to build desalination plants rather than swift action to cut water use for landscaping (50% of residential water use).
We need to stop thinking that more technology will get us out of the problems created by arrogance in the use of prior technologies to "master" our environment.
The state and the country (and the planet) should make zero population growth a priority.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)anotojefiremnesuka
(198 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Trillo
(9,154 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Our (and I say this as a Native Californian) only hope is Jerry Brown's hundred-billion dollar not-so-high-speed train.
Yup.
ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Hekate
(91,005 posts)Almost all the rest of it is Agribusiness. California feeds the nation. How about the nation helps us out?
The River
(2,615 posts)This graph shows it in better detail. It's not residential users who need to cut back.
Hekate
(91,005 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)KT2000
(20,604 posts)Remember to Conserve
or
Conserve Like Your Life Dedepended on it!
anotojefiremnesuka
(198 posts)The technology is not new,
Slogan
Water, without it you die within 3 days.
Hekate
(91,005 posts)....astronomically expensive. Look at a geological map -- California is big and has many very high mountains to cross on the way inland.
I see some desal in the near future, but it will be a drop in the bucket.
anotojefiremnesuka
(198 posts)so how much does Californians want to pay for a gallon of water? I am sure private industry will have no problem selling it to the residents.
The state may want to talk to Canada they have one of the largest fresh water reserves in the world.
or agribusiness is going to have to get rationed and they grow less
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Most lettuce comes from the Salinas Valley, quite a bit closer to the coast. In fact, Sand City in Monterey County has a desal plant online.
anotojefiremnesuka
(198 posts)Americans eat too much beef anyway we need to eat less anyway
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Produces more than Wisconsin, in fact.
Xithras
(16,191 posts)Basically, the concept proposes that a massive saltwater intake pipe be run across the bottom of the SF Bay from the Golden Gate to somewhere around Antioch. Desal plants at Antioch could then feed water directly into the existing Cal Aqueduct a short distance away at Tracy. The vertical lift between Antioch and Tracy is only 30 feet.
The long intake pipe is required to avoid altering the current flows in the SF Bay and Delta, but its construction would be fairly straightforward as it is simply separating two bodies of water with different salinity levels (the water inside the pipe would be saltier than the Bay).
Large scale solar arrays on the dry eastern slope of the Coast Range would be above the fog layer and produce energy year round in one of the highest areas of solar potential in the state. New reservoirs built in the currently dry canyons in the same areas could not only store the water (the same way San Luis currently does), but could be utilized to create a downhill flow to feed water across a substantial portion of the western Valley.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)I like very much! This is the first I have heard of such a thing.
Xithras
(16,191 posts)It was proposed by a bunch of engineers in the Bay Area a couple of years ago after they got tired of hearing the "it's impossible" line. It's entirely possible.
The crux of their idea is that the solar panels would be able to power the desalinization year round, including during the winter when agriculture is mostly dormant in the Valley. Water production would exceed consumption during the winter, allowing those reservoirs to slowly fill. When the growing season started and water use spikes, demand would exceed anything that a desal plant could hope to keep up with, so the reservoirs would be drawn down again. They couldn't support ag and inland water needs on their own, but they would be used alongside existing water storage to expand our overall capacity.
The desal plants required to make this work would end up being the largest ever constructed, but if the alternative is economic devastation and desertification of the inland regions of the state, I don't see how we have a lot of choice.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Can you say "ballot initiative", boys and girls? Mr. KamaAina can!
KamaAina
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