'Duck Dynasty' Star Imagines Vivid Rape And Murder Scenario For Atheist Family

[DonViejo]

"Duck Dynasty" star and conservative icon Phil Robertson told a gruesome, vivid story on Friday about the hypothetical rape and murder of a family to illustrate the perils of atheism, according to audio surfaced by Right Wing Watch.

The website reported that Robertson made the remarks during a speech at a Florida prayer breakfast that was later broadcast by the conservative radio program TruNews. From the Right Wing Watch report on Robertson's speech:

“I’ll make a bet with you,” Robertson said. “Two guys break into an atheist’s home. He has a little atheist wife and two little atheist daughters. Two guys break into his home and tie him up in a chair and gag him. And then they take his two daughters in front of him and rape both of them and then shoot them and they take his wife and then decapitate her head off in front of him. And then they can look at him and say, ‘Isn’t it great that I don’t have to worry about being judged? Isn’t it great that there’s nothing wrong with this? There’s no right or wrong, now is it dude?’”

Robertson kept going: “Then you take a sharp knife and take his manhood and hold it in front of him and say, ‘Wouldn’t it be something if this [sic] was something wrong with this? But you’re the one who says there is no God, there’s no right, there’s no wrong, so we’re just having fun. We’re sick in the head, have a nice day.’”

“If it happened to them,” Robertson continued, “they probably would say, ‘something about this just ain’t right.”

more + recording of Robertson's "talk"
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/phil-robertson-rape-murder-atheists

[Botany]

1. And he is still on the air?

n/t

[SummerSnow]

81. His ilk loves this stuff. They seemed justified in their hearts to hurt people solely based on their

beliefs. My question to him is, What if the 'god fearing'women in your family were raped would you blame god for not protecting them or will you blame them for not being faithful enough?

[guillaumeb]

2. can generations of inbreeding lead to devolution?

If so, at a certain point the Robertson family will lose the ability to walk upright, thus "proving" false the theory of evolution.

[Voice for Peace]

64. yes.

this backwards evolution includes the atrophy
of the part of our brain able to access conscience.

[guillaumeb]

72. leaving only the lizard brain

[Voice for Peace]

82. yes exactly, and I do believe this is actually happening.

[KarenS]

3. What is wrong with this guy??

Seriously.

[riderinthestorm]

15. And nobody from the prayer breakfast objected. And TruNews aired it

So this media organization obviously didn't have a problem with it either.

Atheists are the most despised group in America so many people just don't see anything wrong with this kind of despicable bullshit...

http://www.salon.com/2014/07/21/the_numbers_are_in_america_still_distrusts_atheists_and_muslims_partner/

[CanonRay]

79. Nothing, according to right wing Christians.

He's a bleeping hero, just like Ted (Pedophile) Nugent

[sinkingfeeling]

4. Because the relatively new religion, Christian, thinks it developed moral standards.

Wrong again, Phil.

[democrank]

5. This is so sick.

What an awful human being.

[City Lights]

6. He is diseased.

One doesn't need religion to have morals.

Fuck off, Phil.

[arcane1]

7. He obviously hasn't read his old testament, has he?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

8. So, Robertson can't distinguish good from bad without God's tutoring?

I have a hunch that most of the rapes and murders committed in America were perpetrated by people who professed to be Christians.

[Romeo.lima333]

13. like preists

[Oktober]

95. It's not even tutoring...

It's a basic admission that this is what they would all be doing if they didn't fear smiting and that is the only thing keeping them in line...

[TlalocW]

9. Except five minutes after doing all that

According to Phil's religious views, if they accept Jesus as their savior, they're going to Heaven.

TlalocW

[Dawson Leery]

12. +1,000,000

[angel823]

16. +2,000,000

I will be happy to double-down on that.

Angel in TExasperated

[A HERETIC I AM]

30. Yup. Made the same point in the other thread on this subject;

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6408476

[JonLP24]

33. +infinity

That's exactly how I feel, I try to be a moral person on my own and a lot of people share those religious views, in fact I heard it in every church I went to that no matter what is done wrong, all of that is forgiven -- if you accept him as your personal lord & savior, so I see it as you can do anything you want with a get a jail free card.

[LiberalLovinLug]

51. Yes, he has it backwards

Firstly just the idea that not believing in an omnipotent God means that you automatically believe there is no right and no wrong is one of the most brazen bastardization of atheism.

But further, of the two groups, the only ones with that "get out of hell" card are the Christians. Is it any wonder that only .07% of the prison population regards themselves as "atheist". In the greater society the percentage is 6%. You'd think prisons would be full of these people that don't believe there is a wrong or right

https://www.dropbox.com/s/teyy5pn3nfn7g35/Atheists%20in%20Prison%20Data.xlsx


What is more likely is some rapist, murderer, comes before the court, and pleads that during his pre-trial incarceration, that, Praise God, he has found Jesus. He has seen the Light and can only ask for forgiveness from the injured family and will only do good from now on. And that the judge might be swayed by this to not punish him as harshly. And if it were Robertson's family that was that injured family and they were sitting in court hearing this...I wonder if they would clap for that.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

41. The Atheists or the rappists?

[Mariana]

66. They go to Heaven, and their atheist victims roast for eternity. nt.

[JonLP24]

86. I couldn't help but crack up laughing when I saw this post

Its their logic that is hilarious or the logic of it, god may need to make some reforms.

[Tafiti]

67. Yep.

Of course, the Onion has tackled this topic brilliantly (and hilariously).

Not once, but twice.

[JonLP24]

97. The first 2 paragraphs

were one of the hilarious stuff I read recently. Thanks for the articles.

[skypilot]

10. Do we really need religion...

...to tell us that raping, shooting, decapitating and mutilating people is wrong?

[gcomeau]

48. Apparently a lot of religious people do.

Which tells me frightening things about the moral compasses of the religious but not much at all about atheists.

[Enrique]

98. yes, that's the only reason I don't do that on a regular basis

because I don't want God mad at me.

[CrispyQ]

103. Not just decapitating, but decapitating her head off.

Good grief. The man is a moron & the media gives him a microphone.

[skypilot]

104. A microphone...

...and a TV show.

[Malraiders]

11. And so if the rape/murder happened to a God fearing man and his family, then Duck Robertson

would see this as God's Will?

[HassleCat]

65. An Excuse

Well, you have to forgive his lapse of logic. He was obviously very excited. That big erection he had while telling his gruesome little tale probably distracted him.

[Romeo.lima333]

14. that doesnt explain why some priests have raped little boys

[backscatter712]

17. And this is your brain on religion. Any questions?

[tularetom]

18. Wow that is one sick mofo

What kind of pervert would even sit there and imagine such a ridiculous scenario?

And why do guys like this think God is such a dick?

[seabeyond]

19. i am told this rape fantasy stuff is all in good fun and we are not to raise an eyebrow!

a fantasy is all, fetish, maybe, but it is all good. yippee!

[daleanime]

47. I can't think of a single sexual fantasy......

that I would feel comfortable sharing in that kind of environment, much less one involving multiple deaths.

[gcomeau]

53. This was not a "fantasy". Please don't trivialize what he just did.

This was presented as a serious philosophical argument that the only thing that makes rape and murder wrong is that God says so and will punish you for it after you die. (Except for that whole "get out of any transgression free" card called "believe in Jesus" of course)


This dumbass is, like ever so many religious idiots before him, seriously declaring that if he didn't believe God existed he could conceive of no reason he would find raping and murdering people wrong so therefore atheists must have no grounds for calling it wrong.


Which means he is, essentially, declaring that he is a psychopath. And the only thing keeping him in check is the belief that an ever present all powerful supernatural policeman is looking over his shoulder every second of his life.

[radicalliberal]

77. It's evidence of a sick mind.

And the fact that he even shares this sick fantasy with an audience is indicative of just how sick in the head he really is. Disgusting!

[Oktober]

96. The two are unrelated....

[Dreamer Tatum]

20. Lunatic. nt

[yellowcanine]

21. I am guessing the whole concept of the strawman logical fallacy" is lost on Phil.

Just a hunch.

[Rex]

22. Wow...I had no idea he was that breathtakingly imbecilic. Not surprised about the sick mind.

What does being an atheist have to do with right or wrong? I didn't know Phil was the much of a simpleton.

[Initech]

43. I'd love to start a petition to A&E to get these lunatics off the air.

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And for stores like Kohls to stop stocking their junk merchandise. Time to hit it where it hurts!

[Sister to TxTowelie]

57. There is also Zaxbys Chicken fast food.

Stupid commercials with everyone in camo. The beard is so ugly, I lose my appetite when I see the old man.

I'm not sure how many states Zaxbys is in, but they used to hire comedians from SNL, etc, and run really good ads. The duck dynasty ones are stupid.

[Initech]

73. We don't have that out here in California.

But that pretty much tells me all I need to know about that place.

[Rex]

63. Let me know if you do or find one, I will sign it.

High time Phil gets what is coming to him. Hopefully that is unemployment with reality TV and a ban on his merch.

[Initech]

71. Maybe we should create one?

[Rex]

74. We could, there are various on line sites for it. I think the WH.com site has one too

why not? Somebody has to start and I for one would LOVE to see that sick asshole get kicked off the TVEE.

[the devil]

78. wrong bat time, wrong bat channel...

AMC shows Mad Men and The Walking Dead.

A&E shows this brain dead mad man.

[Initech]

83. Why did I get A&E mixed up with AMC?

[maxrandb]

23. Conservative Icon

yeah...there's no difference between the parties

[BeeBee]

24. What an incredibly sick man. n/t

[Hepburn]

25. Sick fucks...

...

[calimary]

37. That about sums it up for me, Hepburn.

This guy is a sick fuck.

[Android3.14]

26. Duck Dynasty star engages in projection

"We’re sick in the head"
He enjoyed that fantasy far too much.

[world wide wally]

27. Something just ain't right about this

[John1956PA]

28. Robertson's vivid description strikes me as snuff porn.

He has issues.

[JonLP24]

29. Why is there only right or wrong to the religious

I'm not agnostic or atheist because I don't believe in right or wrong. I just haven't seen convincing proof of god or virgin birth, a lot of the supernatural claims or opinions of right or wrong from thousands of years ago.

I certainly consider myself a moral person, I don't believe in harming for personal gang. In the scenario, I still consider breaking into someone's home, tying them up... is wrong, wrong, wrong.

Sometimes whenever someone will try to invite me to church, mention it is laid back, the serve food have BBQs, etc. Respectfully, I'll mention why a lot of things are good decline because I'd have to pretend the religious part then all of a sudden people start treating me as if I'm el diablo.

[hunter]

31. He got a pleasant tingly sensation in his nether regions describing that scenario...

... but, as he was doing God's work, it wasn't sinful.

That's the way those guys roll.

[logosoco]

32. So what he is saying basically is that the fear of

an imaginary figure is the only thing that stops him from killing and raping? Wow. I hope someone is keeping a special eye on this guy. That is really scary.

[Initech]

34. Is it any wonder why I absolutely despise these people?

Phil Robertson is a fucking lunatic. And anyone who buys their shitty merchandise is only feeding the beast.

[Comrade Grumpy]

35. And from the Department of Redundancy Department: "decapitate her head off."

[mountain grammy]

40. sick and dumb..

[jtuck004]

36. "sick in the head" - There are kids in school who are taken into custody for creating

fantasies like this.

Why is this child molester out on the streets? Does it make him more of one if he actually follows through, instead of just telling stories to get a woody with?

Lock him away, or don't leave your little kids around him. Especially the boys.

[pansypoo53219]

38. sounds like his 'faith' ain't so strong.

[mountain grammy]

39. These people are sick, sick, sick!

Ugly man.

[MisterP]

42. well, there's several overarching philosophies of ethics--

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deontological_ethics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue_ethics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consequentialism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_sense_theory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_realism

--and all ethical systems--from Confucian to various Christian to countless strands of humanism--are able to play around and interact with all of these broader analyses

or you could noisily load your drawers on national radio

[LittleGirl]

44. Must have stopped taking his meds

That was one sickening description that I feel dirty after reading.

I need a shower and a smoke to calm the fuck down. That is one sick one. Right there. That's just sick.

Weird and murderous.

The ugly of humans. And he's wildly imaging it.

THAT is messed up.

[gcomeau]

55. You'd be surprised how common this is from religious apologists.

Although not always in such graphic detail, but the whole "if there's no God there's nothing wrong with killing and raping and eating your neighbors because "wheeee! fun! no consequences!" is an absurdly widespread religious apologetic.

I've run into it dozens of times. Which makes me question how many supposedly good upstanding moral religious folk are actually psychopaths.

[d_r]

80. its an authoritarian view

Comes from overly punitive parents.

Morality isn't an internal sense of right and wrong. It isextetfnal_ fear of punishment. You do "right" so you don't get in trouble, but if they think they won't get caught they do it.

[Mariana]

69. Of course, what he described is a picnic

compared to what he believes would be done to this hypothetical atheist family after they die.

[onecaliberal]

45. How is this shit aired?

Does he actually think some murderous guy is going to stop what he's doing because God is going to judge him?

The stupid is very very very strong in that one.

[tanyev]

46. Wow. Somebody needs to go back and read Romans 2: 14-15.

14(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.)

Or perhaps study the Code of Hammurabai, which predates Mosaic Law.


Or best of all, just STFU.

[Kurska]

49. If the only thing keeping you from murdering and raping people in threat of punishment from god

You're a terrible person.

[abelenkpe]

54. +1000 nt

[Enthusiast]

50. This Duck guy is a fucking idiot.

Jesus Christ.

It takes a nut that professes to be a Christian to think up such violent bullshit.

[wendylaroux]

52. What a skeevy old perv

hope he was speaking behind a podium.

[JonLP24]

56. I can't tell what he was wearing -- could like a judge's robe or a sweater

http://a3.img.talkingpointsmemo.com/image/upload/c_fill,fl_keep_iptc,g_faces,h_365,w_652/uo7dqtkzb3bobkitzczp.jpg

[wendylaroux]

60. maybe a wizard robe?

that's it,he's a wizard.

[SHRED]

58. He needs to look in the mirror

And ponder Matthew 19:24.

[spooky3]

59. What religion do the perpetrators follow?

If they're atheists, why would they be hostile toward their victim's views? Therefore, they must be believers of some sort. What does Phil's story have to say about believers, who are perpetrating a crime, vs atheists, who haven't harmed anyone?

[vkkv]

61. Sicko doesn't know right from wrong! So NO WONDER he's chosen the Bible.

Some people do need a guide, most of us normal people were born with a sense of right and wrong.
This sicko was not.

[HassleCat]

62. Wow! Just wow!

My former sister-in-law watches this crap all day long. It's her absolute favorite show, and she stares at the screen, as if mesmerized. In fact, I guess she is mesmerized. Anyway, millions of Americans worship the DD people for their traditional values, patriotism, blah, blah, blah. I guess you can add mental illness to the list of virtues. I mean, we all imagine horrible things happening to people, including ourselves, but we don't actually wish these dreams would come true, even for those we loathe. But here you have a guy who not only cultivates such fantasies, but reveals them in public, and it's clear he thinks such gruesome stuff would be just punishment for not believing in Jesus. "Something about this just ain't right." Yeah, Phil, your head.

[shawn703]

68. So right and wrong wasn't defined until the Ten Commandments?

Wow, how shocked everyone must have been when they learned God said they can't kill or steal anymore because it's bad.

Although come to think of it, according to the Bible, rape could be atoned for by marrying the victim and paying fifty pieces of silver to the father. Or even A-okay if it's raping women as part of the spoils of war.

Sorry Phil, your religion doesn't have a leg to stand on when it comes to knowing the difference between right and wrong.

[Dont call me Shirley]

70. It's no wonder the neocons are working so diligently to eliminate mental health care in this

country. When they have "religious" spokespeople like Robertson (either one Phil or Pat) representing their perverse minds, they don't want to alert their insane status.

[LeftishBrit]

75. How disgusting - and truly immoral

Normal people do NOT avoid raping and murdering people just because they're afraid of going to hell. They avoid doing these things because they're decent human beings and don't have an urge to injure and kill others just for the sake of it.

That story made me feel sick; I would frankly wish to avoid getting anywhere near Phil Robertson on a dark night.

[radicalliberal]

76. Robertson is scum.

One has to have a sick mind to come up with this sort of "story." When I was a boy during the 1950s and '60s, black Americans had a name for low-class guys like him: "white trash."

Of course, he fails to recognize that atheists are a diverse group. In other words, as far as moral standards are concerned, they're like everybody else. They run the gamut from noble to evil.

Robertson and others like him are an embarrassment to me as a Christian.

[GeorgeGist]

84. God can't help him.

[0rganism]

85. yet more proof that religion-centered morality is the lowest form of ethics

if the only reason you don't rape, murder, and mutilate your neighbors is a religion-inspired fear of post-death consequences, you don't have any moral code beyond cowardice.

[WinkyDink]

87. 1. Shows a VERY sick mind. 2. Shows an insanity that doesn't recognize, you know, SECULAR LAWS.

[jmowreader]

88. Would anyone like to know why I can't be a Christian?

According to this asshole's fucked-up belief system, two Christian men can fulfill this horrific scenario then go out in the yard, drop to their knees, put their hands together and say, "bless me, Father, for I have sinned" and God will simply put his hand down out of the sky, pat them on their precious heads, and say, "there, there, it's all right, I'm certain you didn't mean it, when you die you still get to go to heaven." No matter how evil you are, as long as you say "I believe!" you go to heaven when you die. For all we know, (insert name of the worst dictator you can think of - there are so many you don't have to stick to the obvious ones) said "Lord, I Believe!" just seconds before he died and he's in heaven right now along with all the people who really deserve to be there.

No. Fuck that. There HAVE to be penalties for this shit. If there's such a thing as a Get Out of Hell Free Card then I don't want a damn thing to do with anyone who's waving one around.

[jmowreader]

89. Have y'all seen the Palmer Chocolates "Duck Bucks"?

The tagline under "Duck Bucks" sums up the Robertsons' philosophy better than anything anyone's issued to date.

[Kalidurga]

90. So, this is his best shot at trying to convert atheists?

Good luck with that.

[Marr]

91. Imagine if you needed a book to tell you those things were wrong. /nt

[anotojefiremnesuka]

92. Religion poisons the mind, Phil is living proof, the sick part is Phil is not alone millions share

his sick and twisted views.

[AngryOldDem]

93. Gotta love those Christians.

He needs help badly if he can fantasize about something like this in such detail.

I am SO sick of these sick fucks.

[BigDemVoter]

94. I see 2 things

1. What a Fuck Tard Mr. Robertson is. . .
2. How loony-fucking-toons the people organizing the "prayer" breakfast were to even think of inviting that redneck asshole

[Bettie]

99. And this is why the world is safer on Sundays when

these idiots are all freshly churched and ostensibly less likely to go on a rape and murder spree.

His inner life must be a scary, scary place if this is what he spends his time thinking about.

Frankly, I don't think religious or non-religious people think that murder and rape are "right".

What an asshole.

[mnhtnbb]

100. Didn't you always have a suspicion this guy was one sick, twisted, pervert?

No more suspicions. He just put it out there for everyone to know.

[spanone]

101. sick redneck asshole. doesn't have a clue about 'God'

[CrispyQ]

102. What a sick, stupid fuck.

Morality is about how you behave, not what you believe, you dumb fucking shit.