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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBoston Globe Urges Elizabeth Warren To Run For President
In its call for Warren to run, the Globe editorial board said that Democrats would be "making a big mistake" if they let Hillary Clinton get the party's nomination running unopposed.
"Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren can make sure that doesnt happen. While Warren has repeatedly vowed that she wont run for president herself, she ought to reconsider. And if Warren sticks to her refusal, she should make it her responsibility to help recruit candidates to provide voters with a vigorous debate on her signature cause, reducing income inequality, over the next year," the editorial board wrote.
The paper also dismissed other Democrats who are mulling a bid against Clinton, like former Sen. Jim Webb (Va.) and former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley, saying that they did not represent "top-tier candidates." Warren, the paper suggested, could position herself as an alternative to Clinton.
"The Democratic Party finds itself with some serious divides that ought to be settled by the electorate. Some are clear-cut policy differences, such as the Trans-Pacific Partnership, an enormous free-trade agreement with Pacific Rim nations that Warren opposes and Clinton backs," the editorial board wrote. "Even in areas where the candidates agree, there are bound to be different priorities: Its hard to imagine a President Clinton defending and enforcing the Dodd-Frank legislation with as much vigor as a President Warren, for instance."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/22/boston-globe-elizabeth-warren_n_6918510.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000013
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So what issues would you vote for?
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)...speak to the people, the lower and middle and working classes, restore jobs and security.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)I wonder what their conversations were like in order to get this written up and published.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)It seems to have started with the belief that Hillary might actually run unopposed. Hard to believe this is what comes out of editorial boards. They don't even start in reality.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)I'm like Sergeant Schultz from Hogan's Heroes -- I know nuffing, I know nuffing!
Divernan
(15,480 posts)I think the editorial's mention of Warren having more vigor than HRC any given topic is not only talking about personal enthusiasm, but also a swipe at HRC's health issues and poor general physical condition.
turbinetree
(24,738 posts)This is how a democracy should be, having newspapers come out in there editorials supporting a candidate like Elizabeth Warren who knows what we the public need to help sustain ourselves and the country from the oligarpghy and from those that think 900 million or 1 BILLION can buy a election and the courts.
I will do what ever I can to have her run and I agree she should help a progressive change this culture that in elections there is the anointed.
We need a FDR style candidate and a Francis Perkins mentality to take back this country, from the billionaires and millionaires and the suckers that support the millionaires and billionaires.
This election is about the U.S. Supreme Court
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Goodbye Hillary!!! Goodbye Bush Family!!!
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)in talking with people and not just at them.
She is able to reduce very complicated issues
to a sensible yet correct amount.
BTW she also knows "arithmetic" very well.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)HRC the inevitable.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)I forgot about that and HRC's terrific ability
to connect with people.
Mea maxima culpa!
brooklynite
(94,858 posts)Sanders
O'Malley
Webb
...but I guess dreaming is more fun.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)"if they let Hillary Clinton get the party's nomination running unopposed."
The dolt who wrote that sentence shouldn't be on the job. When you whole point is based off a blatantly flawed premise.........
Seriously, an editorial board came up with that crap. That shows the thought process is controlled strongly from the top. Most staff writers would be able to see the glaring flaw. Simple fact is, they know if they write it, it will create division. Seems the same dim bulbs fall for shit like this every time.
On the bright side, use of the term Goldwater Girl has been dramatically reduces over the last few months due to the pushing of another candidate on the left by the media.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Many different issues. The whole picture. This article starts on the idea of Hillary running unopposed, not issues. It is an article written with the goal of division, not clearly defined issues. That is literally the starting false premise of the article. It is agenda driven. Unfortunately, that agenda works over and over again on people.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I really don't know what you are trying to argue here with respect to my original post. I am going to assume, as you have given me no other options, that you are one of those in the camp that thinks Hillary might truly run opposed. Foolish stance to take, as I have mentioned. Please read my original post you replied to again. It is about the blatantly flawed premise the article starts with. I mean stupidly flawed. I don't see how you are missing that and what the point of responding to my post in a manner that has nothing to do with my post. Maybe I should just ask you about Russian involvement in Crimea. That would have damn near as much to do with my original post. It really was an amazingly simple and accurate post you replied to. Your reply just didn't have anything to do with my post. I simply stated the extremely flawed premise and editorial board started with in order to flow to different points.
I have no clue where in the world you are getting "Still not hearing any issues. Just the don't bash Hillary meme." Just the don't bash Hillary meme. Where in the fuck did you get that from in my post?
You seem to be very similar in thoughts to this editorial board. You have something to say you just aren't sure where to put it or how to start. I expect this type of behavior on a discussion board like this, extremely unprofessional for an editorial board.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)My disagreement was clearly with this sentence.
"In its call for Warren to run, the Globe editorial board said that Democrats would be "making a big mistake" if they let Hillary Clinton get the party's nomination running unopposed."
That is the only issue I took. I was very clear and am still shocked an editorial board would make that argument.
This is your first reply to me that has to do with my initial post. "I don't think I'm obligated to agree with you though."
I never said you were. I do think disagreeing with me is foolish on this one. Then again, it leaves me on an island by myself and you in agreement with an editorial board. You are on much stronger ground. I just think it is very foolish to believe she will run unopposed as is the starting point for your op. Clearly you and the editorial board disagree with me on that. I don't think any argument you can make would convince me otherwise. History is just not your friend in that debate.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)There will be a primary and she will face challengers who will test her ability to govern in her desired position?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I could elaborate on #1 but the answer would still be no. She is the presumptive frontrunner in a race that hasn't officially started.
I think that is pretty obvious to anyone who has been paying attention to politics for more than a day.
I don't understand how you or anyone else thinks she will run unopposed.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)was all about this sentence and how foolish it was. Really not much more.
"if they let Hillary Clinton get the party's nomination running unopposed."
Fearless
(18,421 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)Plus... Although issues are of utmost importance...
There's an old political saw that says...
When you elect a President, you are inviting them into your living room for the next 4 to 8 years.
Probably started with FDR and the age of radio, but definitely true in the age of television.
And after 12 years of Bushes, and 8 years of Clintons...
Well let's just say that both families may have over-stayed their visits.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)The premise could be no more flawed.
"In its call for Warren to run, the Globe editorial board said that Democrats would be "making a big mistake" if they let Hillary Clinton get the party's nomination running unopposed."
No one in their right mind would find sense in that statement. It is flat out stupid. To think it was a starting point for an editorial board is laughable.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Hillary having debates with fellow Dems would sharpen her skills, and straighten out any kinks in her arguments BEFORE the General Election.
You disagreee I take it.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)My reply was simple. An editorial board has an idea that Hillary might run opposed and stated that belief in order to say what they really wanted to say. An editorial board has that little knowledge with respect to politics.
In order for your follow up to happen, the editorial board would have to be completely wrong, which they obviously are. I do disagree with the editorial board. Don't you? Your "whole lot of ink" comment seems to back up what I am saying 100%. It goes completely against the thought process of the editorial board.
Dems to Win
(2,161 posts)Here's one of them:
http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2015/03/21/elizabeth-warren-does-run-she-would-surprise-skeptics/zvX3UwmEQnz5Sml1fRl5XI/story.html#
This is BIG! She has to pay attention to this.
Warren 2016!
yuiyoshida
(41,868 posts)Reccing and Kicking
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Run, Liz, RUN!!!!!
WillyT
(72,631 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)('Course if she does change her mind, it would be infinitely better politically to announce after Hillary does. We can wait a bit. )
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)I can see the speech declaring her candidacy for president " I am running to prevent Hillary from running unopposed".
brooklynite
(94,858 posts)"All all of the women Democratic women I should say of the Senate urged Hillary Clinton to run, and I hope she does. Hillary is terrific," Warren said during an interview broadcast Sunday on ABC's "This Week," noting that she was one of several senators to sign a letter urging Clinton to run in 2016.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/04/27/elizabeth-warren-i-hope-hillary-clinton-runs-for-president/
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)She has stated she is not running and I have a suspicion she does not want the responsibility of the presidency. I think Senator Warren is smart enough to make her decisions.
still_one
(92,488 posts)A run, don't think Warren has been to Iowa
KitSileya
(4,035 posts)We must pressure her to change her mind, and make her do what *we* want. To hell with consent.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Comparing an editorial in a newspaper to rape is ludicrous.