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mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
Sun Mar 22, 2015, 04:55 PM Mar 2015

Sarkozy Staves Off Surging National Front, France Exit polls says.

http://m.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32006268

B ut while listebing to each party s speeches here is the most revealing.

When the second round duel is right wing/far right, the left is callong to block far right.

But when the duels turns left/far right, the RW doesnt call anything. ....

RW ad far right. Corporate alloes and traitors everywhere...
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Sarkozy Staves Off Surging National Front, France Exit polls says. (Original Post) mylye2222 Mar 2015 OP
Wow. LePen's group has--in one poll--25% of the vote? Igel Mar 2015 #1
Or MFrohike Mar 2015 #2

Igel

(35,386 posts)
1. Wow. LePen's group has--in one poll--25% of the vote?
Sun Mar 22, 2015, 05:08 PM
Mar 2015

That's an order of magnitude over the "fascist" vote in Ukraine.

Then again, Putin does consider Le Pen to be a force for good.

Perhaps the reason Putin doesn't like Ukraine's politics is that it's not "fascist" enough?

Or perhaps because in most of Europe the far right despises the EU, and that makes them friends with Putin. While in Ukraine the far right despises Russia, and that makes them friends (or at least not too hostile) towards the EU. With "fascist" (or not being "fascist&quot irrelevant to the entire situation, except for PR purposes and motivating people to hate and kill.

MFrohike

(1,980 posts)
2. Or
Sun Mar 22, 2015, 06:05 PM
Mar 2015

It could be that Putin appreciates any force that weakens his rivals.

I highly doubt the guy is married to any political philosophy except one that supports his staying in power. I know I'm running the risk of being called stupid names by pointing it out, but most world leaders aren't super ideological. The ones who are rarely last that long. If he's in a proxy fight with the EU and US, it only makes sense to weaken the EU through whatever means are possible. It's strangely akin to the USSR's support of far left terrorists in the 70s like the Red Army Faction. The enemy of my enemy and all that.

I do have to laugh when people complain about his support of the far right, though. I laugh because of all the outrage huffed and puffed when there's apparently zero recognition that without the utterly insane policies of our great allies in Europe, there wouldn't be a far right to him to support. It strikes me that if you are really serious about undermining his undermining of Europe, you'd start by leaning on Merkel and Draghi.

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