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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Isis women’s manifesto is grotesque – but some in the west would agree with every word
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/06/the-isis-womens-manifesto-is-grotesqueVery true...especialyy among GOP
and here is a golden sample:
Feminism is billed, of course, as the antidote to female subjugation. So its odd that its so often characterised as man-hating. Whats more hateful to and of men than the idea that they cannot be trusted to even imagine comporting themselves with good sense and dignity unless the women stay hidden away, toiling to create a refuge from the dangerous and exhausting society that men have made? Gender equality is simply about understanding that we can all look after each other in the ways we choose, and respect each others choices. Or it would be, anyway, in a better world.
In truth, the subjugation of women makes sense only to those, male or female, who have a fantastically, pitifully low opinion of men. No wonder Islamic fundamentalists love death. They must throb with self-loathing and self-disgust during every waking moment of their lives. Those who hate themselves so much must find solace in the existence of another group they can hate even more: the hypocrites of the west.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)Just a little nit-picking > refuge from the dangerous and exhausting society that SOME men have made.
Most, if not all, of the men on this forum, despise the pieces-of-human-trash also.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)And I have no doubt that many Duers could do a far better job than many of the Guardian staff
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,405 posts)The idea that men in general have produced a "dangerous and exhausting society" is part of the caricature that she objects to - "whats more hateful to and of men than the idea that they cannot be trusted to even imagine comporting themselves with good sense and dignity unless the women stay hidden away, toiling to create a refuge from the dangerous and exhausting society that men have made?
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)...is"
A "whimsical sketch of a real person" (caricature) is held by some men and women but the writer implies that his meaning is the "Standard of thinking".
I don't see that in my everyday life.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,405 posts)who have, she says, an "unlikely common cause" in this. What in the article implies it's a 'standard of thinking?
Caricatures don't have to be 'whimsical'; they can be savage too.
(rereading it, I realise it's not feminism she says they see that as - she's saying those 2 groups agree women should retreat from the public world, because they paint the public world as 'dangerous and exhausting' for women. So perhaps she could have expressed it better, if more than one of us is not getting her meaning quickly).
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)What you just posted though, is something I fully agree with.