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Panich52

(5,829 posts)
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 08:31 PM Mar 2015

The Most Brazen Rip-Off Ever? How the Beverage Industry Brainwashed You to Fear Tap Water

The Most Brazen Rip-Off Ever? How the Beverage Industry Brainwashed You to Fear Tap Water
Tap water is superior to bottled water. Why don't consumers know that?

The biggest con job perpetrated on the consumer is not some shady operation selling bogus cures through TV infomercials. America’s biggest snake-oil salesman is actually the beverage industry, or Big Bev, which resells the simplest and most vital product for thousands of times its value. That product is drinking water.

Multinationals ... rake in a combined $110 billion a year selling bottled water worldwide. ...

But the expensive water the beverage industry sells is no better — and possibly worse — than the water you get from your tap (and often, the water they sell is tap water). So how did these companies fool the public into paying a few bucks for something that costs a few pennies per gallon from a faucet?

Fear. These multinationals have spent millions on marketing to convince consumers that tap water tastes bad, contains high levels of contaminants and poses a danger to human health. ...

... With some 92% of tap water meeting state and federal standards, the U.S. has the cleanest and safest public water supply in the world. ...

To make matters worse, the supposedly healthy alternative is virtually unregulated. The water from a public utility is constantly monitored under Environmental Protection Agency standards, but bottled water does not have to meet those standards. In fact, independent testing of bottled water has indicated that microbiological impurities and high levels of fluoride and arsenic posed health concerns. 

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The Most Brazen Rip-Off Ever? How the Beverage Industry Brainwashed You to Fear Tap Water (Original Post) Panich52 Mar 2015 OP
Oooh I LOVE the taste of chlorine and rusty metal. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #1
Which is in the bottled water, too. Pshaw! nt longship Mar 2015 #5
If you're trying to tell me a pint of Sparkletts tastes like the tap water in Big Bear Lake... cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #7
I've been there a few times. longship Mar 2015 #8
I'm open to that. n/t cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #19
I get reverse osmosis water from a store, it's way cheaper than bottled water, and tastes AMAZING! DesertDiamond Mar 2015 #37
Not all of us own homes so reverse osmosis isn't an option Beaverhausen Mar 2015 #55
A couple hundred bucks for an under counter unit. longship Mar 2015 #57
Is bottled water progress to you? Jetboy Mar 2015 #16
Not only do I recycle; I work for the disposal company. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #18
They still manufacture those bottles by the millions. Jetboy Mar 2015 #21
Billions. But do feel free to preach to someone else. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #24
That's great. The OP is about bottled water which is manufactured by the billions as Jetboy Mar 2015 #28
Answer me one question. yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #22
I don't care how bottled water tastes. Jetboy Mar 2015 #23
What? Compare SUV to water? Well get me some good tasting tap yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #25
Plastic bottles by the billions just aren't good for the planet. Jetboy Mar 2015 #30
Maybe you are right, yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #31
I do it once a day and gather all of the water I need for the day. Jetboy Mar 2015 #34
You are good I must say. yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author muriel_volestrangler Mar 2015 #62
It's just pure water Treant Mar 2015 #26
Your lucky. Florida is horrible, Arnold Maryland is ok yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #29
Here in Japan, those plastic bottles are recycled Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #46
Some "progressives" are all about progress/principles until it ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2015 #58
If my brother drinks the local tap water, he shits himself Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2015 #63
My tap water tastes better than any bottled water I've tried cali Mar 2015 #45
Spring water is awesome. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #49
however, if my tap water tasted like some tap water I've had, I damn well would buy water. cali Mar 2015 #50
Get a water filter if you pipes are old and your city uses too much chlorine Matariki Mar 2015 #54
Maybe you should read my posts before you tell me what to do. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2015 #56
I've never bought bottled water. Jetboy Mar 2015 #2
My city tap water tastes awful. Lilyhoney Mar 2015 #3
Consider a reverse osmosis system. longship Mar 2015 #6
A big waste of water taught_me_patience Mar 2015 #38
That's what I use. It makes a difference and is inexpensive. randome Mar 2015 #44
I've always known that. Ron Obvious Mar 2015 #4
I've been in places in Massachusetts and Louisiana Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #47
Sure Ron Obvious Mar 2015 #53
I was in the Southbridge area of Massachusetts Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #59
I've always been fine with city water, but my kids... bhikkhu Mar 2015 #9
Have thought about getting a Brita pitcher? AwakeAtLast Mar 2015 #51
My water tastes fine. If I'm ever anywhere where the water stinks, I'll use a filtration system. MADem Mar 2015 #10
"$110 billion a year selling bottled water worldwide" MisterP Mar 2015 #11
there's visible stuff floating around in tap water where i live. i still drink it, i just KG Mar 2015 #12
I drink filtered tap water itsrobert Mar 2015 #13
At home I use tap - in 840high Mar 2015 #14
Same. It's not really difficult to figure out why. Inkfreak Mar 2015 #41
I let my tap water air out over night... EX500rider Mar 2015 #15
Two words Tracyjo Mar 2015 #17
The water here tastes horrible gollygee Mar 2015 #20
Dallas water is pretty good. malokvale77 Mar 2015 #27
They didn't brainwash me. I've drunk tap water my whole life. cyberswede Mar 2015 #32
My tap water is awful jollyreaper2112 Mar 2015 #33
For the record, Thespian2 Mar 2015 #35
My tap water reeks of chlorine. Boiling doesn't get the taste and smell out. YOHABLO Mar 2015 #36
Same here. Sometimes worse than others... Phentex Mar 2015 #60
I pay the $.25 a gallon to refill my bottles at the store LadyHawkAZ Mar 2015 #40
We've got some of the best water in NY!! Inkfreak Mar 2015 #42
i keep cans of seltzer in the car for emergencies bedazzled Mar 2015 #43
Actually, this is why I fear tap water: blue neen Mar 2015 #48
Lewis Black on water. mmonk Mar 2015 #52
You don't need to spend a penny to convince me my tap water tastes bad Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2015 #61
The tap water I have in SE MI romanic Mar 2015 #64
 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
7. If you're trying to tell me a pint of Sparkletts tastes like the tap water in Big Bear Lake...
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 10:06 PM
Mar 2015

I'm just going to have to laugh and wonder if you've ever been there.

longship

(40,416 posts)
8. I've been there a few times.
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 10:11 PM
Mar 2015

There are other solutions than rip off bottled water. For instance, reverse osmosis, which is not expensive.

DesertDiamond

(1,616 posts)
37. I get reverse osmosis water from a store, it's way cheaper than bottled water, and tastes AMAZING!
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 11:42 PM
Mar 2015

And yes, now that I've been spoiled by reverse osmosis, I've found that bottled water tastes the same or worse than tap water! Except for distilled water, which I use when I can't get reverse osmosis.

Beaverhausen

(24,475 posts)
55. Not all of us own homes so reverse osmosis isn't an option
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 01:01 PM
Mar 2015

And also, just how "not expensive" is it?

longship

(40,416 posts)
57. A couple hundred bucks for an under counter unit.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 01:16 PM
Mar 2015

I installed one myself a couple decades ago. Once installed, you have plenty of water for cooking and drinking, depending the size of the small tank. It's pretty easy. And the water is pretty damned good.

Jetboy

(792 posts)
16. Is bottled water progress to you?
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 10:55 PM
Mar 2015

It's offensive to me much the same as racism, sexism, homophobia or littering. We as progressives know better than to toss hundreds of plastic bottles into the trash.

Jetboy

(792 posts)
21. They still manufacture those bottles by the millions.
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 11:13 PM
Mar 2015

And unless demand subsides, this will likely continue.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
24. Billions. But do feel free to preach to someone else.
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 11:20 PM
Mar 2015

I buy a bottle of water every now and then. When I'm done with it I put the bottle in a recycle container. All your preaching ain't gonna change that. Neither will trying to shame me with what "good progressives" do or would never do.

Jetboy

(792 posts)
28. That's great. The OP is about bottled water which is manufactured by the billions as
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 11:24 PM
Mar 2015

you say. You don't buy a 24 pack every 2 days or whatever. Obviously that is what I'm talking about- the bottom line- no bottles going to the landfill. People who do fill the landfill should be shamed.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
22. Answer me one question.
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 11:14 PM
Mar 2015

Why does bottled water taste so good, but tap water tastes terrible in comparison? I have lived in numerous states over the years and have not found any that taste as good as bottled water. Is it that bottled water is from springs? I am all for conservation but I want water to taste good especially since we have to drink 64 ounces a day.

Jetboy

(792 posts)
23. I don't care how bottled water tastes.
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 11:18 PM
Mar 2015

Anyone can get a reverse osmosis deal or whatever. I just run the tap wide open for 2 minutes and my water tastes just fine. Drinking bottled water is no different than driving a big SUV. It's just wrong.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
25. What? Compare SUV to water? Well get me some good tasting tap
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 11:21 PM
Mar 2015

And I will stop buying bottled water. Bottled water is not particularly expensive. SUVs are.

Jetboy

(792 posts)
30. Plastic bottles by the billions just aren't good for the planet.
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 11:26 PM
Mar 2015

If you can just refill the bottle like the other guy, then it's not a problem.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
31. Maybe you are right,
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 11:28 PM
Mar 2015

I don't think you are helping the planet by running the tap for two minutes every time you need water. That can accumulate quick.

Jetboy

(792 posts)
34. I do it once a day and gather all of the water I need for the day.
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 11:34 PM
Mar 2015

The first 2 minutes don't go to waste as the first minute is for plants and the second for pet. By then the tap water tastes as good as it possibly can which is great here. Other places may need a filter to drink.

I don't recommend others do just what I do, it just makes common sense to not fill up the landfill with bottles.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
39. You are good I must say.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 12:40 AM
Mar 2015

Good for you. You really are a friend to the Earth. Me? I don't know really.

Response to Jetboy (Reply #30)

Treant

(1,968 posts)
26. It's just pure water
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 11:22 PM
Mar 2015

in that bottle. Yes, pure water...and just a few parts per million of LSD...

/Futurama

They probably filter the water better than the municipal sources do. RO or even a decent filtration system should result in much nicer tap water for you. I'm fortunate, I live in an area with one of the best tap water supplies in the nation.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
29. Your lucky. Florida is horrible, Arnold Maryland is ok
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 11:25 PM
Mar 2015

I live in Florida and rent out the house in Maryland so I am stuck with Florida water.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
46. Here in Japan, those plastic bottles are recycled
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 09:11 AM
Mar 2015

There's even a trash collection day especially designated for PET(E) bottles. I don't buy bottled water, but I do buy other bottled beverages in those bottles and they go to the recycler when they've served their purpose.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
58. Some "progressives" are all about progress/principles until it
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 01:24 PM
Mar 2015

gets in the way or presents some sort of inconvenience.

In other words, screw the environment as long I have what I want. The same people who were appalled by turtles and dolphins showing up sporting 6-pack rings have no problem with billions of plastic bottles in the environment because maybe the water in them is better than tap.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
45. My tap water tastes better than any bottled water I've tried
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 09:03 AM
Mar 2015

gravity fed town water from a spring.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
54. Get a water filter if you pipes are old and your city uses too much chlorine
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 12:58 PM
Mar 2015

better than polluting the world with millions of plastic bottles.

Lilyhoney

(1,985 posts)
3. My city tap water tastes awful.
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 09:21 PM
Mar 2015

My city tap water is also publicly known to have metal cleaning solvent in unacceptable levels. Our water is very hard as well.

I drink several cups of tea a day and can not tolerate the results of the tap water. I do buy steam distilled water by the gallon or aquafina. It tastes good.

When I lived in Chicago near the water filtration plant I was more than happy with my tap water.

California water sucked. Florida water sucked.

My tea is a quality of life issue. I love to enjoy my cup of tea. A bad cup of tea will ruin my day. First world problem I know.

I come from generations of tea drinkers so this is my heritage. And I treasure it.

Lily honey

longship

(40,416 posts)
6. Consider a reverse osmosis system.
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 10:03 PM
Mar 2015

They are economical and produce very drinkable water.

They go under the kitchen sink and have a separate spigot for water for cooking, drinking, etc. You can get a reusable water bottle if you need water on the road. Etc.

Look into it.

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
38. A big waste of water
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 11:45 PM
Mar 2015

On most systems, waste 2 gallons for every gallon produced. Also, RO strips all minerals from the water... completely unnecessary and might be dangerous to health.

A simple carbon filter will make water taste good. RO is completely and totally overkill, wasteful, and most likely unhealthy.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
44. That's what I use. It makes a difference and is inexpensive.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 09:02 AM
Mar 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.
[/center][/font][hr]

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
4. I've always known that.
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 09:55 PM
Mar 2015

I remember taking a marketing class back in the 70's in which the instructor told us that, through proper marketing, people could even be induced to buy water in bottles.

My, how we laughed... It seemed so absurd.

I have a feeling they're trying to shut down public drinking fountains as well, because fewer appear to be operational every year, and people seem to be more scared of using them now.

Hell, I know a guy who proudly proclaims he never even cooks with tap water. Hard to argue against such ignorance.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
47. I've been in places in Massachusetts and Louisiana
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 09:14 AM
Mar 2015

where I wouldn't use the tap water for cooking. It tasted that bad.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
53. Sure
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 12:55 PM
Mar 2015

But here in Seattle we have excellent-tasting water. My friend was concerned about "impurities" and pathogens and I can't convince him that boiling the water kills off most pathogens anyway even if they would have been present.

I don't know about Louisiana, but I've lived in Massachusetts (Amherst) and the water there was fine. The worst water I've personally encountered was in El Paso, which both tasted bad but you could also see stuff floating in it if you held it up to the light. My wife had persistent stomach issues when we lived there.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
59. I was in the Southbridge area of Massachusetts
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 05:42 PM
Mar 2015

and the water tasted like rust. It might have been from old pipes for all I know, but I do know that it was almost unpalatable.

Water in the Opelousas, Louisiana area had a heavy sulfur taste.

bhikkhu

(10,726 posts)
9. I've always been fine with city water, but my kids...
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 10:11 PM
Mar 2015

will only drink bottled water. We go through a case of 24 a week, for years now. They say it tastes better, and have a preferred brand. Of course I can't tell the difference, but we don't keep soda or HFCS drinks around the house so its a relatively small expense.

AwakeAtLast

(14,134 posts)
51. Have thought about getting a Brita pitcher?
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 11:09 AM
Mar 2015

That would reduce the plastic and the water tastes good (at least mine does). Keeping it in the refrigerator means that it is always cold and ready to drink.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
10. My water tastes fine. If I'm ever anywhere where the water stinks, I'll use a filtration system.
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 10:26 PM
Mar 2015

I won't add to the disgusting mounds of waste by buying plastic bottles of stuff that comes out of the tap.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
11. "$110 billion a year selling bottled water worldwide"
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 10:28 PM
Mar 2015

do they mean the hundred-plus countries were you can't drink the tap water?

KG

(28,753 posts)
12. there's visible stuff floating around in tap water where i live. i still drink it, i just
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 10:32 PM
Mar 2015

use plastic tumblers so i don't have to look at it.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
20. The water here tastes horrible
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 11:12 PM
Mar 2015

I use reverse osmosis. Yummmmmmy water. I don't use throw-away bottles. We have reusable bottles we fill with the reverse osmosis water and we take water places in them.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
27. Dallas water is pretty good.
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 11:24 PM
Mar 2015

Except in the dog days when the algae turns over.

I do however, miss Minnesota spring water. I remember the roadside pumps where people could stop and fill jugs to their hearts content.

We had our own free running spring in our backyard. The water in our house was tied into it.

jollyreaper2112

(1,941 posts)
33. My tap water is awful
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 11:33 PM
Mar 2015

South Florida. A filter pitcher or fridge filter fixes it just fine. I despise bottled water. The wife and I argue on this one. She likes having bottles to offer people and to take on the road. I say fill the damn bottles we have for that purpose in the first place.

She will often need to stop for a drink thirty minutes into a drive, dehydrated. I have outsmarted that by proactively filling a bottle before we hit the road for a long drive, problem solved.

When I eat in restaurants I will typically bring my own water because most of them fill with tap water. Yuck.

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
35. For the record,
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 11:35 PM
Mar 2015

pure water has no taste and no smell. I happen to be in Florida at the moment, and the local water makes me physically ill. I have to buy water even though I do not want to.

At my home in Canada, I have well water which is filtered before entering the system. Best water ever. No taste. No smell.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
36. My tap water reeks of chlorine. Boiling doesn't get the taste and smell out.
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 11:35 PM
Mar 2015

So it's not the beverage industry hood winking me .. I go by what my nose and taste buds tell me.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
60. Same here. Sometimes worse than others...
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 05:44 PM
Mar 2015

we do filter it but there can still be a strong chlorine smell.

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
40. I pay the $.25 a gallon to refill my bottles at the store
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 02:18 AM
Mar 2015

The water in my elderly building is slightly beige. Across town by the Kennecott mine the water is undrinkable and smells foul.

Inkfreak

(1,695 posts)
42. We've got some of the best water in NY!!
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 08:51 AM
Mar 2015

But I'll still grab a bottled water for car rides. It's easy & quick.

bedazzled

(1,771 posts)
43. i keep cans of seltzer in the car for emergencies
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 09:01 AM
Mar 2015

as aluminum cans are easily recyclable.

i think bottled water tastes bad in addition to the bottles being a real waste.

i never buy drinks in plastic cups when i eat out, either. the cups at 7-11 or burger king will last a hundred years! i just pop a can of seltzer or ask for a glass of water.

blue neen

(12,335 posts)
48. Actually, this is why I fear tap water:
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 10:08 AM
Mar 2015

BEAVER RUN RESERVOIR (Please go to the link to check all of the pictures).

"Although fishing has been banned at Beaver Run Reservoir since 1952, the Municipal Authority of Westmoreland County (MAWC) decided to allow Marcellus Shale gas well drilling on their property next to this 1,300 acre lake in Salem, Bell and Washington townships. The lake provides water to 150,000 people in northern Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania."

UPDATES

"CNX cited after fracturing fluid spill at Beaver Run Reservoir"
"July 31, 2013 (TRIB ) – The state DEP has cited Consol Energy's CNX Gas after a spill of fracturing fluid at Beaver Run Reservoir June 1st at the Kuhn 3D pad when a leak occurred at a plumbing union."

"On June 13, a storm caused a containment dike around the Mamont 1 drilling pad to overflow muddy water down a hill towards the reservoir. Last July, CNX was cited after liquid cement leaked into a creek that empties into the reservoir at the Kuhns 3B well pad. Consol Energy has 36 horizontal Marcellus wells on 5 pads at Beaver Run Reservoir."

http://www.marcellus-shale.us/Beaver-Run-Reservoir.htm

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
61. You don't need to spend a penny to convince me my tap water tastes bad
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 05:47 PM
Mar 2015

I'm not even keen on showering in it.

romanic

(2,841 posts)
64. The tap water I have in SE MI
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 06:12 PM
Mar 2015

is decent I guess. No smell, cloudiness in the water or any kind of "taste" to it. I use one of those filter pitchers though just to be on the safe side.

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