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http://q13fox.com/2015/03/05/homeowners-association-denies-playhouse-for-cancer-stricken-6-year-old-girl/She said, A house,' her mother recalled. I want a play one.'
They worked with Make-A-Wish and the dream was granted. The construction giant, J.E. Dunn, even agreed to build it in their Raymore backyard and ensure the shingles matched those used on homes in the neighborhood....
The Stone Gate Homeowners Association indeed turned down the plans. HOA leaders said building a structure in the backyard would go against the neighborhoods covenants. In response to the national uproar that the decision created, HOA leaders said Wednesday night that they are working to find a compromise.
HOAs are miniature repuke parties.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)...full of busy-body kill-joys....
Fuck them all.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I live in HOA and like it a lot. Most live in one now. I think they are great. This situation while sad was known by the parents who should not have encouraged such a thing. What if the little girl gets better? Does the next door neighbor get to build one too because his little girl wants one too.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)...that live on fining residents and ever-expanding the covenants and rules...
Petty, vindictive nasty little people that should just really learn to STFU and mind their own fucking business...
YMMV
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I am sure a few in the country are run by Republicans since they make up a percentage of the population. I did my homework and went into a Democratic area.
pnwmom
(109,021 posts)Have you ever known anyone who went through radiation and chemotherapy? Much less a child?
Please rethink that heartless response.
I live in a HOA and I think a lot of the rules are silly and overreaching, and Ive spoken out when it's time to vote on them. In between, I have to put up with them. But I'd never justify this kind of decision.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Should be interesting and maybe even better for the entire neighborhood. Don't we get up set when the rich build an obscene house that takes away from the look of the neighborhood?
pnwmom
(109,021 posts)an ugly house here and still keep to the rules about paint colors, roofing materials, etc.
When our HOA rules were renewed, I had to fight for the right to have a solar installation on my roof -- which used to be banned. We still don't have one, but I wanted the right to have one when we're ready -- so we had to get the rules changed. Thirty years ago when the rules were written, no one anticipated solar energy here.
You might want to take a look at your rules sometime. You might be surprised what's in there.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)I've never lived in an HOA, and don't plan to. But one of the things that make an HOA so desirable for the people who live in them is the rules that are in place designed to ensure those desirable characteristics are protected. Among those characteristics is a certain uniformity in the grounds. HOA members can't leave rusting junk autos on their front lawns. They can't erect ginormous flagpoles. They can't paint their houses in psychedelic colors. You want to do these things? Either don't live in an HOA, or if you do live in an HOA, get a variance ahead of time. It's not that complicated.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)I said that I wore that color for 3 1/2 years years and there was no fucking way I was going to live in it.
I wanted to paint the house purple but Donna wouldn't let me so we settled on a bright turquoise.
Thank the gods that there is no HOA here-of course if there was,we never would have bought the house.
I don't need petty commissars telling me what I can and can't do in my yard in regards to parking my pickup in the driveway, what color I can paint my house, or similar crap.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Which is why I never plan to live in an HOA. But listening to people complain about HOAs so vociferously is like hearing someone say, "God, I can't tell you how much I hate that show 2½ Men! It double sucks! I can't stand it!!" Uh, so, like, maybe you could not watch it, Smedley?
Blanks
(4,835 posts)of course you're right.
They are in existence to protect the homeowners property values. You have to take the bad with the good.
If they allow this little girl to build this house, there's no stopping other violations of the rules. It's setting a precedent, and it may be enough for bubba to pull a small camp trailer into his back yard.
You just want to say "think people".
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)so the choice may be to move to a different geography or put up with a HOA, and in the latter case hope that you can find housing you like with a HOA that pays attention only to the important stuff like funding community amenities rather than to the NIMBY crap like having a playhouse in the yard or planting vegetables rather than a lawn in the back of the house.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)We repainted in shade that looks either blue or purple depending on how much light was on it. It's probably time to repaint, although we need to replace a few water damaged boards first. Turquoise sounds rather fun.
treestar
(82,383 posts)They could always tell the other girl that's the reason.
NutmegYankee
(16,204 posts)My neighbors and I get along great and help each other out multiple times a year, even though we have some extreme ideological differences. We keep our properties up just fine without an HOA to try to fine us over minutiae.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)I live in an HOA subdivision, but ours is very easygoing...keep your yard up, don't build something without a permit, etc. Most of the fees go to trash & recycling collection, street plowing when necessary, and upkeep of common areas & paths.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Not a fan. I lived in one once and had no issues with them, but others in the neighborhood did.
Many rulings seemed arbitrary and exceptions made for folks that had a good friend in a decisionmaking role.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)I know that when we were looking to buy, there were lots of HOAs, and they varied widely in how strict they were, what they cared about, etc.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)If you do you agree to abide by the CC&R's
I was a treasurer on two HOA boards and yes people who think like you do are tough to deal with.
Baitball Blogger
(46,775 posts)forms cliques to strip the HOA of its resources at the same time that they use their positions to stick the homeowners with assessment to maintain infra-structure that came about through even more dirty deals.
Small government's influence on private HOAs in Florida is pestilence in a can.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)...
NutmegYankee
(16,204 posts)But HOA's always seem to attract "special" people to their boards.
onenote
(42,821 posts)She advocated successfully for a variety of pro-environmental measures. She and others on the board (most of whom are very active Democrats) also worked to maintain flexibility in the architectural review rules (which mostly require notice to neighbors before significant changes to property, but rarely if ever prevent those changes from being made).
In other words, your experience may not define "always."
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)have "special" homeowners who are equally bad.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Gun range so he can go out and have fun shooting his gun. I could imagine the change in tone with some.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)I think gunz and a play house are very different.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)blue neen
(12,335 posts)Ludicrous comparison.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)blue neen
(12,335 posts)"A lack of compassion can be as vulgar as an excess of tears." (spoken by the Dowager Countess).
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)kcr
(15,321 posts)dilby
(2,273 posts)happen to them they might as well not have any rules period. People love HOA's till they want to do something that is against the rules then they complain about how terrible they are. It sucks the littler girl can't have her play house but, maybe she could settle for a doll house in her room.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"they made exceptions for anyone who had something terrible happen to them they might as well not have any rules period..."
What specifically and relevantly leads you to that conclusion?
Do you believe no exceptions should ever be granted regardless of circumstance? Some exceptions? If the latter, what are the precise and objective qualifiers on which those exceptions are predicated?
dilby
(2,273 posts)where some people get what they want while others do not. If it's a bad rule you change it, you don't make an exception. The same holds true for laws.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)decisions. They are made up of other homeowners not board members. They make suggestions to the board.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)power or authority and they promptly misuse the little the position gives them.
Definitely not all, but enough.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)because we don't have what are considered "normal" zoning laws here. They tried to make me keep the ugly assed tree rings around the oak tree out front. That's not in the deed, so I fought them. Now, I get reminders once a week. When I move, I'm going to drop the binder full of them off on the management desk on my way out.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Really, really wrong.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)"What about Disney?" Maybe she would go for that. A lot of fun can be had at Disney.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)You're right. I think the parents can deftly move her in another direction, away from disappointment.
...are one of the major symbols of why I like my horse better than I like most people.
So, I never lived in an area that had one. Tell me, do they have rules about things like old geezer cowboys playing their Frank Zappa collection at head-splitting volume?
I don't think I could live like that. If I want to paint the barn purple, that's my business.
What is it with humans wanting to run other peoples' lives? It's like a compulsion with this species...
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)a copy of the CC&R's before you close. If you don't want to live by them you don't buy the house. Nobody is forcing you to do anything. The reason for HOA's is so people like you don't get to lower other people's property values.
Oubaas
(131 posts)ROFLMAO! Hmm, I've made the big time! I'm now officially one of those "people like you" who are at the root of so many of the world's problems.
Well, if it eases the strain on your kidneys any, you're in no danger of me moving into your neighborhood and wrecking your property value. I'll be keeping my crazy ass out here in the sticks where I don't bother anyone.
Besides, I'm a disabled veteran and they won't let me drive anymore. It would just be too hard to move to where you are.
But if you're ever way out in the sticks and hear "Penguin In Bondage" blaring from someone's stereo, stop in for coffee!
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)? If you do and you live like you want to you lower property values. Get it?
kcr
(15,321 posts)Why is it so hard to understand that only people who can exactly plan their lives out, and know The Secret so nothing bad ever happens should buy into HOAs. If they don't know this, and live their crazy, hectic lives with totally random things happening because they're not smart enough, well, gosh, that's just their own dumb fault. Plan! Organize! Dream It! Live it! The HOA way! Losers and randos get out of the way!
...in my own defense, the house is very well insulated, so the music doesn't really leak out much. And the barn is a very tasteful shade of purple. Sort of a "merlot meets high voltage" kind of thing. So maybe my charming but eccentric ways would actually attract people to the neighborhood, thus raising property values. I don't think that we should just assume that I'd automatically be a disaster.
So, are monitor lizards on the "acceptable pets" list? He's not really all that big, but he is a little snappish. But he's litterbox and leash trained and I have a pooper-scooper.
Perhaps you could send me a brochure. It sounds like a nice neighborhood...
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Bettie
(16,139 posts)But, HOA's are like that.
I'd never live in a neighborhood with one. They bring out the worst in humans.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)A compromise? Gee, how nice of them.
azmom
(5,208 posts)And refuses to obey HOA law regarding not having mobile home on your property unless you build a building to house it in. Two years later I try to sell my home and buyer pulls out because HOA tells him he has to build a building to house his mobile home. When I called the HOA, they tell me they are powerless to do anything about my neighbor. Apparently, the fines are accumulating, but as long as the neighbor pays her monthly HOA fees they can't do much about it.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Shortly before 5 p.m. Thursday, the Stonegate Homeowners Association announced they will allow the little girl battling cancer to have her wish come true and get the playhouse she wanted. The group reversed its previous decision to block the 6-year-olds playhouse from being built.
Read the rest at: http://ktla.com/2015/03/06/girl-battling-cancer-to-get-playhouse-after-missouri-homeowners-association-reverses-its-decision/