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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAnyone else watching Lawrence O'Donnell tonight?
I'm no fan of Hillary Clinton, but during his segment on the email flap he sounds more like a Faux News host than an MSNBC one. Is he just trying to keep his job with the change in focus on MSNBC? If so, I can go to bed earlier.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)So, surprisingly, that must be you and no, no one else is watching.
mak3cats
(1,573 posts)I usually turn off the TV after Rachel. I guess I'm late to the party.
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mak3cats
(1,573 posts)...he was parroting some points I heard earlier from more right wing sources, and he has adopted the habit of talking over his guests rather than letting them speak. I did not call him (or Rachel) a liar.
DURHAM D
(32,617 posts)Last night I started thinking about Operation Mockingbird. Today's NBC/MSNBC, Washington Post and NY Times reporting confirmed it for me.
It has been 6 years since the Spooks have had a useful tool in the WH and they are salivating over the idea of another one of Poppy B's boys or any other total moron with an R after his name.
The last thing they want is someone who knows how their lying trade craft works. They are setting up more scandals as I type.
awake
(3,226 posts)The news media did not make up the fact the the emails were not keep as the 2009 rules said they needed to. HRC did this to her self and has no one else to blame.
DURHAM D
(32,617 posts)Its drivel that gives some people an adrenalin rush. Be careful.
awake
(3,226 posts)oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)I am tired of the shows all carrying the same three stories. Heads up MSNBC. Books are great!
Spazito
(50,563 posts)his tone was awful. She handled it with more class than I could have.
awake
(3,226 posts)she actually said that it was ok to act as other Heads of the state department acted even when the rules changed in 2009, meaning the HRC could decide to not fallow the new rules because past heads acted under old rules so so could she use outdated rules if she wanted
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Spazito
(50,563 posts)"Late in 2014 - long after Clinton left State - President Barack Obama signed an update to the Federal Records Law to "prohibit the use of private email accounts by government officials unless they copy or forward any such emails into their government account within 20 days," according to the National Archives and Records Administration."
I have found nothing that states she broke either rules or regulations.
What rule are you referencing re 2009?
awake
(3,226 posts)".....The head of each Federal agency shall make and preserve records containing adequate and proper documentation of the organization, functions, policies, decisions, procedures, and essential transactions of the agency and designed to furnish the information necessary to protect the legal and financial rights of the Government and of persons directly affected by the agencys activities
Important Point 1 There has been an argument that HRC maybe did not know about her obligation to store documents. This position is meritless: HRC was the head of a Federal Agency, and she by law had an obligation to preserve records throughout her agency. She by law cannot claim ignorance of her requirements.
44 USC Chapter 31 is implemented through regulations. Those regulations came about in 2009. See 74 FR 51014, October 2, 2009. These were published in the CFR in the 2010 edition of the CFR, and that is what I will be citing. Ms. Clinton was secretary of state at the rime the regulations were adopted and, by law, she was expected to have knowledge of them and implement them per 44 USC Chapter 31......."
Spazito
(50,563 posts)Your link goes to an opinion by a poster at dkos, it is merely one opinion among many.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)R B Garr
(17,004 posts)I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that he was raising his concerns in that manner to show that she has to be careful (as any candidate) to not have things like this take over the talking points. I kind of got that when David Axelrod mentioned that point, and O'Donnell seemed to agree.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)For example his "disbelief" about how a me policy might not be immediately implemented.
In my federal career, lots of rules weren't immediately implemented by everyone for the simple fact that it simply wasn't practical or effective.
Heck, once policy on electronic communications wasn't fully implemented until 5 years after the policy was issued
JI7
(89,283 posts)bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)Puglover
(16,380 posts)"The Walking Dead". Essentially the same thing