Fact checking needed: According to this guy - Obama is panicking....

[tenderfoot]

Things considered while wondering why DEMOCRATS ever voted for this guy......
As you are aware, I AM REPUBLICAN! I am a US History buff, have a degree in Social Studies education and my concentration of history is United States, European, and China. I can not believe this president is bypassing Congress to formulate his legacy. Here is what his legacy is going to be......

Barrack Obama - First African American President, who usurped his political power to throw every good American under the bus with his executive order policies and his failed health care initiative. He made promises he never kept and has the lowest performance rating in the history of the Presidency.

His legacy? Ha! The only reason he was elected and re-elected is because he held the urban areas of America. IF the election was based on area, instead of people, He would have been crushed. Unfortunately, he held the largest city in the United States, which basically won him NYS, Miami, Los Angeles (because we all know he is "Hollybama&quot , and so on. He knows he is a "lame duck," with the election in 2014. He had a hard enough time the previous 4 years with getting any policies through and now with a Republican controlled congress, his ideas and legacy will no longer be bipartisan, they will be "Emperoric" (Yes, I created a new word), which means being like an emperor. He is a Constitutional lawyer, which means he knows and understands Constitutional law. He has blatantly broke the Constitution with every turn he has made. Time to get off the soapbox....<thud>

No matter.....it is what it is. Obama is panicking, and I truly hope Congress makes his last 2 years as rough as possible. He has made his bed....now he can sleep in it. It is no wonder the Secret Service is having so much trouble....even they don't want to protect him anymore.

And I am sorry to those, who think I am being mean about this guy. I am not. Its my opinion and I believe THIS GUY has ruined our credibility, in the world, ruined any chance of our children getting jobs (with at least 5M illegal immigrants allowed to stay), and believing that he has a legacy as being a great President.
Legacy? HA!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/transcript-obamas-immigration-speech/2014/11/20/14ba8042-7117-11e4-893f-86bd390a3340_story.html

Any takers?

[Warpy]

1. Sure, they'll all yowl and squeal about everything but the real problem

and that is the Clown Congress that has done nothing for years except waste money on trying to repeal the first health care reform this country has seen since the FDA was started up.

[VanillaRhapsody]

2. His children cannot get a job picking tomatoes or washing dishes because of all those

damn Messicans....

[VanillaRhapsody]

32. I am making fun of the dude who says they are keeping his kids from getting jobs....

note the sarcasm tag....

[VanillaRhapsody]

36. I KNOW that....but THAT guy doesn't....that is what He thinks....but he also thinks they

are keeping HIS kids out of work and he doesn't see the dichotomy of his logic!


OMG it was completely lost on you....

[emulatorloo]

3. his-failed-health-care-initiative™ Emperoric® Hollybama™

The talking-points are strong with this one. even made up his own word!

[MohRokTah]

6. Which shows he's ignorant about the English Language

He didn't need to make up "Emperoric" because the word "imperial" already exists and means what he says his "new word" means.

[upaloopa]

4. I'll bite.

Show us any evidence a link or something showing Obama panicking or don't reply to my post or any other
We've had are fill today.

[randys1]

5. If you bottled the hate for Obama, both from the left and right, you could have some real hate

Problem is practically all rightwingers are racist and half or more of democrats or alleged liberals.

Outright fucking racists too.

This country is a seething cauldron of racism

[Hekate]

15. Too broad a brush, that. People of all colors voted for PBO or he wouldn't have won twice.

Nonetheless, Hatred, Inc. has propaganda outlets spewing 24/7 on radio and TV, and they have an effect. Haters are more energized than anyone else, seemingly -- they seethe at all times and look for excuses to boil over. They will take this country down, eventually, unless the rest of us awaken.

[randys1]

19. Huh, what? HOw is that a broad brush? I said, let me repeat it

LOTS of HATE for Obama from BOTH the left and the right...

Show me the broad brush, please

[AverageJoe90]

39. "Show me the broad brush, please" Since you asked.....

Problem is practically all rightwingers are racist and half or more of democrats or alleged liberals.

Outright fucking racists too.

I mean, seriously? If the latter in particular, was true, even in general, let alone against African-Americans in particular, do you honestly think that we would have elected Obama at all? I'll just put it to you straight: Fuck, no. You know what's scary about that, in fact? Mitt Romney would be about the best we could hope for(and he was a real screwball in his own right); we might have gotten Ted Cruz, or someone much worse......perhaps even David Duke or some other devoted white supremacist. Remember what happened in Germany in the 1930s.......

[randys1]

40. Outright racists voted for Obama, lots of them...the same ones who complain no matter what he

does

millions of them

Rightwingers attack and threaten and cry no matter what he does, the democratic racists go on and on and on about what Obama hasnt done.

[AverageJoe90]

44. No, millions of anti-black racists did *not* vote for Obama.

That is absolutely absurd.....and, I hate to say this, but do you realize how close this sounds to a certain type of RW agitprop? This isn't meant as an attack on you, personally, but I think you are rather unaware of how this sounds.....

[Skittles]

47. WTF

everyone who criticizes Obama is racist? RIDICULOUS

[AverageJoe90]

34. Way too broad a brush, at that.

I mean, if that were even halfway true.....this country would be far more screwed up than it is now.....and we have enough problems as it is in reality.

[Uben]

7. Everyone has an opinion, even republicans....

....and you are entitled to it, but you are not entitled to your own facts. Your facts are wrong. If I have to point them out to you, you are too damned ignorant to argue with.

[unblock]

8. "the only reason he won was because people voted for him. if cows could vote, he would have lost"

ok, i'm paraphrasing, but only slightly.

[Spazito]

9. Takers for what?

Your link is to the transcript of the President's speech with a bunch of anonymous posters making comments.

You have posted the ugly rantings of a racist POS in a comments section.

[tenderfoot]

12. This was posted on a friend's facebook wall.

I copied and pasted it here so DUer's could let loose on it.

I'd like to copy and paste the best replies as a response.

That he claims to be a historian is hilarious and frightening at the same time.

[Spazito]

13. Ignore it...

Nonsense needs no rebuttal.

[savalez]

23. That's a good response right there

"I would like to engage you one this but nonsense needs no rebuttal."

[Hekate]

10. 1 These are not facts. 2 The facts have been checked repeatedly. 3 Please don't bring RW talking....

....points here and ask us to refute lies. 4 ....

Oh, good grief.

[gordianot]

11. I recommend this "buff" get out more, check out the internet. Classic Dunning-Kruger effect.

A classic case of the Dunning-Kruger effect. Check wikipedia

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than is accurate. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude. Actual competence may weaken self-confidence, as competent individuals may falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding.

[Scuba]

14. According to this racist prick I didn't vote for Obama, cause I'm a rural white guy.

[elleng]

16. among other things:

All Republican presidents since Eisenhower have used executive action to fix immigration.

https://www.facebook.com/LeftAction/photos/a.163594537018870.33966.139398939438430/866479763397007/?type=1&theater

[0rganism]

17. "IF the election was based on area, instead of people"

Sure, that sounds like a republican wet dream. If instead of our current representative democracy we had some kind of Ancient Roman-style consular-senatorial republic where the citizens who could vote were landholders, and their votes counted in proportion to the size of their holdings, then it would be so, and conservative republicans would be a lock forever more.

In the meantime, the GOP will get crushed in presidential elections because they've inspired so much loathing among the urban populations across this nation, which has been and continues to be a representative democracy.

[gwheezie]

30. Trees are people too my friend

the rightwing loons actually try to make the argument that acreage should have the right to vote. They're goofballs

[jwirr]

18. Only reason he was elected is because he held the urban areas of the country. Minnesota may have

its urban areas but when those of us who live in the northern part of the state come out to vote we rule. So at least in our state he also won the rural areas.

Further if he won the urban areas he then won the majority of the voters.

As to panicking, he is extremely cool under pressure and knows what he is doing. No panick.

[TBF]

20. How does one "fact check" idiotic rambling? nt

[B Calm]

21. He fails to explain how Obama has broke the constitution. Talk about hyperbolic bullshit!

[ChisolmTrailDem]

22. I see what you did there. Nice try. Thanks for your concern. nt

[Enrique]

24. Obama has been president for six years

we've been hearing the kind of nonsense in your OP the whole time, it is LONG past time of responding to it, if there ever was such a time.

[JaneyVee]

25. BWAHAHAHAHAHA! If election was based on area instead of people!

These people are CRAZY!

[Kip Humphrey]

26. yet another fact-free repugnant rant. Why is this being posted on DU?

[greatauntoftriplets]

27. Obama is panicking?

I think this person on Facebook is panicking. The president last night was the opposite of panicking. That said, I doubt that this person will listen to reason.

[HappyMe]

28. It appears to be a

fact free rant from an idiot. You can't fact check that mess.

[1StrongBlackMan]

29. The writer of this lost me at ...

I am a US History buff, have a degree in Social Studies education and my concentration of history is United States, European, and China.

Perhaps, that would hold some weight if: 1) That/those were not middle school courses; or 2), if that "degree" had been offered as a course of study in the 21st century.

I only hope he/she teaches "gym" and not "social studies."

[madokie]

33. Hey tenderfoot

we don't even need this kind of shit posted here at all
My personal opinion, nothing personal towards you as a member of DU though

[tenderfoot]

37. Hey madokie..

I totally see your point but I love the responses from DUers to nonsense like this. That's why I posted it.

Just so you know.

Yes, I agree with you.

Thank you.

[CatWoman]

41. +400

[Tarheel_Dem]

53. +500

[Algernon Moncrieff]

38. Let me translate

As you are aware, I AM REPUBLICAN = I'm an angry white guy

I am a US History buff, have a degree in Social Studies education = I failed at business school

concentration of history is United States, European, and China. = I actually have no concentration. I dabbled.

Barrack Obama - First African American President = the president who has the audacity to be black

who usurped his political power to throw every good American under the bus = he didn't blindly pander to the white establishment

executive order policies and his failed health care initiative = his bypassing a do-nothing congress, and having the audacity to get decent healthcare for every American

The only reason he was elected and re-elected is because he held the urban areas of America. IF the election was based on area, instead of people, He would have been crushed. = If we'd simply maintained the system in which white landowning males could vote, we wouldn't be having this problem.

Unfortunately, he held the largest city in the United States, which basically won him NYS, Miami, Los Angeles (because we all know he is "Hollybama&quot , and so on. = I got nothing here. This is so nonsensical, I can't even translate. I think he's trying to say that, since Obama is from Chicago, all the other big cities fell in line? Maybe?

He knows he is a "lame duck," with the election in 2014. He had a hard enough time the previous 4 years with getting any policies through and now with a Republican controlled congress, his ideas and legacy will no longer be bipartisan, they will be "Emperoric" (Yes, I created a new word), which means being like an emperor. = I'm pissed off because he's still in office for two years and he won't kiss Boehner's ass.

He is a Constitutional lawyer, which means he knows and understands Constitutional law. He has blatantly broke the Constitution with every turn he has made. Time to get off the soapbox....<thud> = He should be impeached

No matter.....it is what it is. Obama is panicking, and I truly hope Congress makes his last 2 years as rough as possible. He has made his bed....now he can sleep in it. It is no wonder the Secret Service is having so much trouble....even they don't want to protect him anymore. = No, wait, he should be overthrown

And I am sorry to those, who think I am being mean about this guy. I am not. Its my opinion and I believe THIS GUY has ruined our credibility, in the world, ruined any chance of our children getting jobs (with at least 5M illegal immigrants allowed to stay), and believing that he has a legacy as being a great President.
Legacy? HA! = I want a white president who invades places and who will put the blacks and Mexicans in their place.... I wish I was in the land of Cotton, Good times there are not forgotten!.....

[Hekate]

42. Excellent translation, Algernon. However, second to last paragraph should read....

"Step aside, Secret Service. Stand down and let him be assassinated."

Also, this clown can't manage grammar and punctuation worth crap.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

48. Grammar Impaired - Yet he majored in Social Studies Education

I agree with your interpretation; I didn't want to go there.

[Hekate]

49. To be sure...

It's a sign both of how blatant the wingnuts have become and how mordant I have become that I have begun to actually write the words. It gives me no pleasure to do so, but sometimes I just feel as though I need to point out that's what they really mean.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

50. I remember 2008

I would regularly run into people who would make comments along the lines of "there's no way he'll live long enough to be re-elected." Mind -- these weren't threats; these were folks who just took it as a given that someone would take a shot at him.

[Hekate]

43. Where's that graphic: "Everbody just chill out. I got this" when I need it? Obama does not panic.

This POTUS does not panic.

[Tarheel_Dem]

54. Here ya go!

[Hekate]

55. Ha! That's the one! No drama Obama, calm and rational, wielding a backup plan. nt

[UTUSN]

45. 1) Who is "this guy" (where is the LINK, not the transcript). He's educated and is a Rethug?!1 n/t

[RiverLover]

46. I come here to escape this ignorant, self-righteous rethug drivel. Thanks bunches!!! ~nt

[oldandhappy]

51. President Obama is the coolest president we've ever had.

He is thoughtful, careful, focused, compassionate, level headed, and way way not in panic mode. I leave the panic to you and to other pubs who hate him. I suspect the president will be thrilled to be finished with this job. But in the mean time, he will carry on. He works hard. The House votes against abortion and goes on vacation. Not much of a legacy there. You may want to find another place where you can be rewarded for your comments.

[arcane1]

52. "IF the election was based on area, instead of people, He would have been crushed"

In other words, if mountains and wildlife could vote, Obama would have lost.