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By Dylan Scott PublishedOctober 27, 2014, 2:18 PM EDT
"If anything is clear from the reporting of the nurse who was quarantined in a New Jersey hospital over Ebola fears, it's that the actual quarantine itself was handled miserably. Nurse Kaci Hickox, who returned to the U.S. via Newark airport Friday after treating Ebola patients for Doctors Without Borders in Sierra Leone, described her treatment as "a frenzy of disorganization." She was so flustered that a forehead reading showed her with a fever -- which was then used as reason to quarantine her. Later, they took her temperature again and no fever registered. She was kept in quarantine anyway.
Further reported details of Hickox's predicament made clear that, although New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo were anxious to show resolve and order the quarantine, their local health officials weren't ready to carry out the order in any way that resembled humane treatment.
According to CNN, Hickox was placed in a tent inside the isolation ward at University Hospital in Newark almost simultaneously to the quarantine policy being put in effect. She was not allowed to take her luggage with her into quarantine and was forced to wear paper scrubs. She had no shower or flushable toilet -- she also lacked any form of entertainment, no television and no reading materials. She had to speak with her lawyers through a narrow window in the tent.
She said she mostly spent her time staring at walls -- until she started to take her story national in a first-person narrative for the Dallas Morning News and in her Sunday interview with CNN.
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Best Wishes to Nurse Kaci Hickox a real hero! Mahalo!
Edit: to add.. from the link..
"Anthony Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institutes of Health
"I don't want to be directly criticizing the decision that was made. But we have to be careful that there aren't unintended consequences," he said on Meet The Press. "We need to treat them, returning people, with respect, and make sure that they're really heroes. So the idea that we're being a little bit draconian, there are other ways to protect."
Cha
(297,180 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)"Cha Cha Cha".
Cha
(297,180 posts)Spitfire! rofl
Thanks
Cha
(297,180 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)I hope this continues to blow up.
And where is our "czar?"
Cha
(297,180 posts)Glad she's home. Christie deserves all the shame for this.
Cha
(297,180 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Cha
(297,180 posts)up in his face..
Mahalo, fresh~
greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)This woman is a hero. She stood up to the twins of nitwittery, Cuomo and Christie, and exposed them for the bullies and idiots they are. Way to go Kaci! Hope she keeps talking about this. The CC twins idiocy will only harm the efforts to combat this outbreak.
Rachel Maddow interviewed another Ebola political prisoner, Mr. Ryan Boyko, Yale student under Ebola quarantine in Connecticut on orders from Gov. Malloy. He had been in Liberia working on their patient tracking system at their ministry of health and had no contact with Ebola patients. I am shocked at how ignorant politicians are about basic public health. President Obama has behaved in the appropriate and effective manner on the Ebola outbreak. Let us not forget the Republicans slashed the funding for the CDC. Dr. Fauci has already stated we would already have a vaccine for Ebola if there had not been budget cuts.
Cha
(297,180 posts)I'm kinda surprised Gov Malloy would do this.
greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)Cha
(297,180 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)KMOD
(7,906 posts)He is still insisting she was "very ill".
From the moment she landed in Newark, until she finally escaped Christie's stupidity, it was handled terribly.
Get some well deserved rest, Kaci, and thank you!!!
Cha
(297,180 posts)Yes, Thank You, Kaci Hickox~
KMOD
(7,906 posts)for political points and fear.
He should be ashamed of himself, and he deserves the ridicule he gets.
sheshe2
(83,750 posts)to a group we believe in. Doctors with out Borders are one of them. Kudos to the brave souls that do what The Christies refuse to do.
Best Wishes to Nurse Kaci Hickox a real hero! Yes she is Cha!
Thank you for a great Op!
Cha
(297,180 posts)sheshe2
(83,750 posts)And with all the nurses in my family...We stand for them all.
you~
Cha
(297,180 posts)them and Lies about it.
she
sheshe2
(83,750 posts)about their own families health or the general public is full of shit. My sister has always taken off her shoes at the door when she came home from work. She never knew what she might bring home to the family. Yes she is a nurse.
Cha
(297,180 posts)Anthony Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institutes of Health
"I don't want to be directly criticizing the decision that was made. But we have to be careful that there aren't unintended consequences," he said on Meet The Press. "We need to treat them, returning people, with respect, and make sure that they're really heroes. So the idea that we're being a little bit draconian, there are other ways to protect."
To Nurses, Doctors, and all Caregivers~
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)and the one last night about President Obama hugging Nurse Pham with the moving photos).
Ms. Hickox is a true working-class hero and may prove Christie's Cindy Sheehan, letting air out of the gasbag SS Christie at a slow, agonizing pace but all the more delicious for hissing out so slowly and deliberately.
My sincerest compliments.
Cha
(297,180 posts)Hickox is able to get just compensation!
And, Mahalo, KingCharlemagne
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)being brought down to earth by a professional woman clearly his superior in every way that matters. It fucking makes my day!
Cha
(297,180 posts)Lies.. it would be just desserts if he were brought down by an Ebola Nurse Hero!
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)your ability to summon it quickly is without peer. IOW, this pic is PERFECT.
Again, a serious hat tip.
Cha
(297,180 posts)but, I thank you for your kind words. You should know though that we have a lot of people around here whom I admire for their ability to do just that.
Brigid
(17,621 posts)And now he's shocked -- shocked I tell you -- that he can't get away with it.
Cha
(297,180 posts)NYT ED today.. Called them "grandstanding"..
snip//
"To make matters worse, two ambitious governors Chris Christie of New Jersey and Andrew Cuomo of New York fed panic by imposing a new policy of mandatory quarantines for all health care workers returning from the Ebola-stricken countries of West Africa through John F. Kennedy and Newark Liberty international airports. There is absolutely no public health justification for mandatory quarantines.
snip//
"Fortunately, for the public, there are clearer heads at the federal level than there are in the statehouses of New York and New Jersey..."
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/28/opinion/ebola-policies-made-in-panic-cause-more-damage.html?smid=re-share&_r=0
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A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)Let's hope all the health care workers are now treated as the heroes they are and not like criminal suspects.
I understand the sentiment and agree with it, but when I think of air hissing out of Christie, delicious is not a descriptive word I would think of using.
Cha
(297,180 posts)Anthony Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institutes of Health
"I don't want to be directly criticizing the decision that was made. But we have to be careful that there aren't unintended consequences," he said on Meet The Press. "We need to treat them, returning people, with respect, and make sure that they're really heroes. So the idea that we're being a little bit draconian, there are other ways to protect."
Mahalo
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)scandal, some wit quipped that this was the second time a blimp had crashed in New Jersey.
I know, I know, we're not supposed to take such delight in fat shaming, but I mean really, that joke is fucking hilarious!
littlemissmartypants
(22,634 posts)And a big kicketty kick!
Very Best Wishes to Nurse Kaci Hickox a real hero!
Mahalo!
~ littlemissmartypants 🙆
Cha
(297,180 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)of which we have/had no shortage.
They are not close to ashamed of themselves, needless to say.
Cha
(297,180 posts)was sick.. Of course Christie is lying.. that's what he does.
"At first, Christie in particular was defiant. He said Sunday morning that he had "no second thoughts" about instituting the quarantine. But that confidence lasted just 24 hours more.
By Sunday evening, Cuomo was revising his quarantine policy, per the New York Times, ordering that patients could spend their time at home. By Monday morning, with everybody from the White House to almost any medical authority who had spoken publicly on the issue urging a more restrained response, Christie said that Hickox could spend the remainder of her 21 days at home.
Christie's office did what it could to save face after that announcement, but the speed of the reversal crystallized what had really been clear from the beginning: This whole thing had been botched.
Big bad Christie had to back down.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)The public would have been well served to be provided ACCURATE SCIENTIFIC INFORMATION FROM A PUBLIC HEALTH EXPERT.
Ramping up panic by fear mongering nonsensical actions that had no basis in reality (reality= science/ proven public health measures) served NO ONE, and served to further confuse the public.
Christie is an idiot.
Cha
(297,180 posts)words to him, etherealtruth.. as we all know. To be repeated over and over again while he blunders his way through his republicon, Ebola draconian, Fear response.
mountain grammy
(26,619 posts)Cha
(297,180 posts)mountain grammy
(26,619 posts)They deserve our scorn, and they deserve to be sued.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)I am so glad we had a woman like this put into the position. How she handled it put a stop to it and saved others having to experience, because it became alright.
The pres did perfectly as well.
Cha
(297,180 posts)Mahalo~
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)MontyPow
(285 posts)Jump on the Cuomo bandwagon once he seeks national office.
Cha
(297,180 posts)MontyPow
(285 posts)He used his buddy Cuomo for cover to go all Teabaggery.
Cuomo is Democratic Poison. If Democrats don't come to understand this soon, he will one day be our candidate.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)I dread another campaign with him.
Cha
(297,180 posts)oldandhappy.
Hekate
(90,662 posts)Cha
(297,180 posts)"Anthony Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institutes of Health
"I don't want to be directly criticizing the decision that was made. But we have to be careful that there aren't unintended consequences," he said on Meet The Press. "We need to treat them, returning people, with respect, and make sure that they're really heroes. So the idea that we're being a little bit draconian, there are other ways to protect."
The empressof all
(29,098 posts)I'm trying to understand the hows and whys of how this all unfolded behind the scenes....
Christies advisors must really hate him or they and Christie are just fricken idiots to try to pull this off. Either way I have so much appreciation for Kaci Hickox. She is a true hero...not just for her sacrifice of time and energy to help others oversees but to come home and stand up to that bully.
Cha
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Mahalo
nikto
(3,284 posts)What a pair.
I probably resent Cuomo's formidable jerkhood even more than Christie's (who is also a felon, IMO),
because I expect more from Democrats then to be complete A-Holes like garden-variety GOPers.
Not so in Cuomo's case.
Cuomo may be the #2 Jerk in The Democratic party, after Rahm ("Liberals Are 'Fking Retarded' ) Emanuel.
These boyz are scumbags, no doubt about it.
Don't be fooled by their party label.
Cha
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lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Cha
(297,180 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)NBachers
(17,108 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Love your idea
Christie is such a moron (moran) correct Cha?
Cha
(297,180 posts)Kaci Hitchox, flamingdem~
snip//
"To make matters worse, two ambitious governors Chris Christie of New Jersey and Andrew Cuomo of New York fed panic by imposing a new policy of mandatory quarantines for all health care workers returning from the Ebola-stricken countries of West Africa through John F. Kennedy and Newark Liberty international airports. There is absolutely no public health justification for mandatory quarantines."
snip//
"Fortunately, for the public, there are clearer heads at the federal level than there are in the statehouses of New York and New Jersey.."
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/28/opinion/ebola-policies-made-in-panic-cause-more-damage.html?smid=re-share&_r=0
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Okay.. he's "moran" too!
Cha
(297,180 posts)Nabachers. However, if Kaci Hickox were to be able to successfully sue the state.. and bring him some More bad publicity.. there would be some justice for what he did to her.
Snip from NYT OP..
"Fortunately, for the public, there are clearer heads at the federal level than there are in the statehouses of New York and New Jersey. On Monday, strict new federal monitoring rules, announced by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention last week, went into effect for travelers entering the United States from Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone. The rules are designed to avoid the confusion of state-by-state policies, give health workers and other travelers a clearer idea of what to expect and reassure the public that somebody is in charge. State and local health departments will contact travelers daily for 21 days after their departure from West Africa to check on their temperatures and other symptoms (21 days is the maximum period for symptoms to develop). If the returning health care workers fail to report as required, health officials will track them down using contact information they have provided upon entry."
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applegrove
(118,636 posts)Cha
(297,180 posts)snip//
New Jersey Governor Chris Christie pushed back Monday afternoon against the characterization of his decision to release nurse Kaci Hickox from quarantine as a reversal from his previous policy.
"The reason she was put into the hospital in the first place was because she was running a high fever and was symptomatic. If you live in New Jersey, we will quarantine you in your home. That was always the policy. If you live outside the state and you are symptomatic, were not letting you go onto public transportation. It makes no common sense.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/christie-defiant-over-quarantined-nurse-my-job-is-not-to-represent-her/
Only according to all reports.. she was Never sick! He's Lying A-Gain.. down there in Florida this time Lying for Rick Scott.
Cha
(297,180 posts)"Earnest told the press corps that the feeling of at least some people within the White House is that the service of somebody like Kaci Hickox is something that we should honor and respect. He added, She didnt travel over there because she was getting a big paycheck. Presumably, shes not going to be inducted into the nurses hall of fame for it. She did it out of concern for her common man.
Her service and commitment to this cause is something that should be honored and respected, Earnest repeated, and I dont think we do that by making her live in a tent for two or three days.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/white-house-we-should-celebrate-nurse-hickox-not-make-her-live-in-a-tent/
TexasTowelie
(112,146 posts)I've been fighting the Ebola nonsense in the Mr. Conservative column on the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal this month. He accuses the president of politicizing Ebola, but has already written twelve different blogs this month where Ebola was the primary topic. Republicans are looking like fools for over-reacting to the few cases that have occurred.
Cha
(297,180 posts)snip//
"To make matters worse, two ambitious governors Chris Christie of New Jersey and Andrew Cuomo of New York fed panic by imposing a new policy of mandatory quarantines for all health care workers returning from the Ebola-stricken countries of West Africa through John F. Kennedy and Newark Liberty international airports. There is absolutely no public health justification for mandatory quarantines."
snip//
"Fortunately, for the public, there are clearer heads at the federal level than there are in the statehouses of New York and New Jersey.."
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/28/opinion/ebola-policies-made-in-panic-cause-more-damage.html?smid=re-share&_r=0
applegrove http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025724941
White House: We Should Celebrate Nurse Hickox, Not Make Her Live in a Tent
"Earnest told the press corps that the feeling of at least some people within the White House is that the service of somebody like Kaci Hickox is something that we should honor and respect. He added, She didnt travel over there because she was getting a big paycheck. Presumably, shes not going to be inducted into the nurses hall of fame for it. She did it out of concern for her common man.
Her service and commitment to this cause is something that should be honored and respected, Earnest repeated, and I dont think we do that by making her live in a tent for two or three days.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/white-house-we-should-celebrate-nurse-hickox-not-make-her-live-in-a-tent/
Mahalo, TexasT~
malaise
(268,966 posts)It will cost him
Gothmog
(145,168 posts)The policy was really stupid and fell apart in record time
Cha
(297,180 posts)snip//
New Jersey Governor Chris Christie pushed back Monday afternoon against the characterization of his decision to release nurse Kaci Hickox from quarantine as a reversal from his previous policy.
"The reason she was put into the hospital in the first place was because she was running a high fever and was symptomatic. If you live in New Jersey, we will quarantine you in your home. That was always the policy. If you live outside the state and you are symptomatic, were not letting you go onto public transportation. It makes no common sense.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/christie-defiant-over-quarantined-nurse-my-job-is-not-to-represent-her/
Gothmog
(145,168 posts)Christie still thinks that he could be the GOP nominee in 2016. That is not going to happen
whistler162
(11,155 posts)Ebola don't worry about it... 101 degree temperature don't worry.
Cha
(297,180 posts)nt