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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIndiana trooper pulled over woman to ask if she’d accepted Jesus Christ as her savior: lawsuit
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/indiana-trooper-pulled-over-woman-to-ask-if-shed-accepted-jesus-christ-as-her-savior-lawsuit/Ellen Bogan said she was stopped in August by Indiana State Trooper Brian Hamilton, who asked whether she had a home church and handed her a pamphlet asking her to acknowledge she is a sinner.
Its completely out of line and it just it took me back, Bogan told The Indianapolis Star.
She filed a federal lawsuit with the American Civil Liberties Union against Hamilton, claiming the trooper violated her First and Fourth Amendment rights.
I realize keyboard warriors are a dime a dozen, but I promise you, had that been me, I'd have started filming (which I do anyway whenever circumstances warrant) and read this guy the riot act. If true, what a JACKASS.
MADem
(135,425 posts)reflection
(6,286 posts)I have been a proponent of that for a looong time. Had the unpleasant experience of being targeted by an unhinged cop once and I said "never again." Now my cell phone is one-touch, live record/upload until it's broken or runs out of battery.
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)They'd also be handy for documenting the circumstances of any accident you might get into or ticket you might be given. I've looked on Amazon & they're not all that expensive, maybe $150 iirc.
NYC Liberal
(20,140 posts)No doubt they'd come with a way to be remotely activated. For your safety, of course.
Quackers
(2,256 posts)I love it! This is the one I bought.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JFUU5OM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
MADem
(135,425 posts)though--it's not standard equipment. If it were, they'd probably find some way to jam it
Most people have those jazzy smart phones and one can do this sort of thing on the cheap. Just get one of those apps that set it to a one-touch record/upload, and keep it stuck to one of those little farty sticky things that are attached to the dash. Push that button the second you get pulled over, and don't roll down the window too far or unlock the door. http://www.cellphoneshop.net/window.html?CAWELAID=1391152742&CAGPSPN=pla&catargetid=530001600000077792&cadevice=c&gclid=CPC6vbedmcECFaIF7Aod7CUARQ
gopiscrap
(23,768 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)It was revealed last week that the Ferguson, now required to wear cams, had been keeping them turned off.
And TODAY a judge had to order Fergus police ...
"Federal judge bars Ferguson, Mo., police from forcing protesters to keep moving, not stand on sidewalks - @stltoday"
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)and point out that he didn't shoot or rape her, but even so, pushing his own personal religious beliefs on her is totally out of line.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)It was just weird, Bogan told the newspaper.
That is the very definition of a government official establishing religion.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)get the red out
(13,468 posts)I would have been terrified. Such a total misuse of his position! I would have worried about what he might charge me with if I gave him the wrong answers, and if anyone would ever believe me.
reflection
(6,286 posts)it protects both of you.
get the red out
(13,468 posts)I am very chicken. I also travel a lot with my dog, cops shoot a lot of dogs these days. I'd probably do anything to keep her safe.
reflection
(6,286 posts)Might as well do what you want as long as it's legal.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)damnedifIknow
(3,183 posts)Not to worry officer the lord is my co-pilot.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,382 posts)But we crashed in the mountains and I had to eat him.
Ampersand Unicode
(503 posts)...because my beat-up Toyota has one of these stickers on it.
Jokerman
(3,523 posts)There a many of us here who will not tolerate the actions of this nut.
Ampersand Unicode
(503 posts)AKA forced-birther wacko straight out of the cornfields, known for promoting lies about Planned Parenthood and sponsoring a 2011 House bill to cut off all federal funding to the organization.
Please tell me this guy is back shucking corn where he belongs.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)And he fancied himself both cop and missionary on the road
Actually at first, I was thinking it was the Onion or some spoof ....
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)This is beyond outrageous and that cop should be fired yesterday. What a POS.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Jokerman
(3,523 posts)I've always wondered if there were cops out there who would treat a motorist differently if they had the IGWT plate. This guy sound like just the kind of jackass I was concerned about.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Ampersand Unicode
(503 posts)...but I don't believe they have a pro-choice one, sadly. Any Bay Staters please enlighten me if the opposite is true.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Seriously, was he high?
hunter
(38,354 posts)What's that, officer? You don't see Him? You poor lost soul...
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)progressoid
(50,029 posts)And he said it was OK to go a few miles over the speed limit.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)the Saudi Arabia of America?
Tell me, what bastion of liberal ideas do you call home?
Casting insults never helps
Lochloosa
(16,086 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Indiana doesn't have any oil.
Rhinodawg
(2,219 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)elleng
(131,457 posts)but I don't see First and Fourth Amendment violations unless he ticketed her for saying "NO."
arcane1
(38,613 posts)It which case it is VERY not-cool! If she were pulled over for a legitimate reason, and this incident happened during that stop, that would be a different story.
elleng
(131,457 posts)geretogo
(1,281 posts)Initech
(100,155 posts)Drale
(7,932 posts)I know for a fact that they look for out of state plates to pull over and give fake tickets to and its happened to me. I got pulled over going 60 in a 55 with the officer claiming I was going 76. It was my first ticket and it was 76 dollars so I just payed it because I just wanted to be done with it but if that had happened today I would have fought the fuck out of it.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)the Jackass carries a gun. Think about that. How many of them are there behind the badges?
vlyons
(10,252 posts)who came to teach forgiveness. Something that most of us most definitely need a lot more practice in. But a personal savior? Well I have so many, I guess one more won't hurt. Let's see, I've got Sakyamuni Buddha, Chenrezig, Vajrasattva, Medicine Buddha, Manjushri, Green and White Tara, Vajrapani, Guru Rinpoche, Lord Shiva, Lord Krishna, well you get the point, I hope.
God is a concept ... in your mind ... a meta-meta-meta-cooncept. And as such, god lives within you as you. Don't believe in a creator god? Well neither do I, but I'm open to the possibility. But never in a million years would I assume that to ask you such a stupid, intrusive, and insulting question. That trooper needs to be sat down and taught about crossing boundaries.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)indepat
(20,899 posts)some sons-of bitches don't understand this separation, that even a sitting Supreme Court Justice can play like there is no separation.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Now, that shit will keep you out of a ticket in the bible belt.
Volaris
(10,281 posts)Is a dashboard Buddy Christ...
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Rhinodawg
(2,219 posts)I was pulled over in Indiana once but it wasn't like that.
I don't think I will be moving there anytime soon.
gopiscrap
(23,768 posts)but I doubt it, you can massacre an entire city if you're a fucking cop and not have anything happen to you!
wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)Did she have a bumper sticker - for example, a "godless" one - on her car? Did the trooper think he'd make a good impression on a woman?
hunter
(38,354 posts)You don't want to look in there.
3catwoman3
(24,146 posts)...disgustingly reprehensible and out of line that I can't even find words for it.
malthaussen
(17,242 posts)-- Mal