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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 05:26 AM Sep 2014

Get off my tractor! Get out of my barn and fields! Get off my porch!

Last edited Sun Sep 21, 2014, 07:48 AM - Edit history (1)

I like country music. I realize some of you don't. There are genres of music I don't care for. However to dismiss all of it is short-sighted and trashes a culture that deserves better.

Not all of country music screams about 'Merica' and love it or leave it. Looking at you Lee Greenwood, Hank Williams Jr and Toby Keith. Beyond the jingoism, there is a long history of people and songs worth keeping.

That said, popular country music these days is populated by cute boys singing about beer, trucks, farms, screwing, and not necessarily in that order. I have nothing against any of those things. However, the songs are lacking in creativity and sound the same. Looking at you Luke Bryan.

The distaff side is better with such performers as Kacey Musgraves, Miranda Lambert and others. However after watching one truly noxious song called 'God Made Girls' I was ready to shoot my teevee. It was singularly the worst thing I have ever seen or heard. That's saying a lot considering I'm a boomer and have witnessed a lot whether I remember it or not.

There are other people worth watching but you have to wade through a lot of dreck to find them. I have no doubt that people don't like country as it's presented on country channels or in the award shows.

There are several good acts off the beaten path, but I am waiting for this horrible wave of Palmetto Bug Boys to subside. I would like to see the better side of country music being presented again.

So get off my land! Leave the beer!

PS Take Taylor Swift with you. She has never really gotten past songs about breaking up with whoever.

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Get off my tractor! Get out of my barn and fields! Get off my porch! (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Sep 2014 OP
I like older country. Unknown Beatle Sep 2014 #1
If you like older country, joshdawg Sep 2014 #5
Don't forget Lefty Frizzell. nt. thucythucy Sep 2014 #27
Plus pipi_k Sep 2014 #34
A lot of older country music was twangier than hell. Are_grits_groceries Sep 2014 #13
I love country music but not all of it. Clint Black, Darius Rucker, Yearwood, etc. but Taylor Swift kelliekat44 Sep 2014 #14
Taylor Swift is not an idiot yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #32
No she's not an idiot. Are_grits_groceries Sep 2014 #40
You know what? I went back to read your original post yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #41
No problem. Are_grits_groceries Sep 2014 #48
Same here, and pipi_k Sep 2014 #30
I thought this was going to be a thread about John McCain lol Takket Sep 2014 #2
There are a few country artists that I can listen to, Arkansas Granny Sep 2014 #3
That's the same way I feel about joshdawg Sep 2014 #4
Thank you. 7962 Sep 2014 #17
"can't drink enough beer to listen to country music" safeinOhio Sep 2014 #16
Got some friends in low places... davidthegnome Sep 2014 #6
Molly Ivins on country music eridani Sep 2014 #7
Lol! Thanks! nt Are_grits_groceries Sep 2014 #12
I find the best music no matter the genre TexasProgresive Sep 2014 #8
You need to google the 'Chitlin' Circuit.' Are_grits_groceries Sep 2014 #11
I'm a huge music fan. sendero Sep 2014 #9
We generally agree. Are_grits_groceries Sep 2014 #10
It's the Bakersfield sound, brought to you by Buck Owens and Merle Haggard. DawgHouse Sep 2014 #29
Thanks. Are_grits_groceries Sep 2014 #39
There are a few C & W classics that were part of my malaise Sep 2014 #15
Well you can see how I feel about the new performers. lol Are_grits_groceries Sep 2014 #19
Alison Krauss singing Graceland curls your hair it's so good. Shrike47 Sep 2014 #52
Yes shanti Sep 2014 #37
About 15 years ago I stumbled into the Ark safeinOhio Sep 2014 #18
"That's what girls are for" pipoman Sep 2014 #20
My bad. It's actually called "God Made Girls." Are_grits_groceries Sep 2014 #21
Freedom loving country yeoman chained to ClearChannel programming decisions... HereSince1628 Sep 2014 #22
"Red Solo Cup"? Meh. Red Dirt country for me - IDemo Sep 2014 #23
Steve Earle is cool. panader0 Sep 2014 #33
Galway Girl IDemo Sep 2014 #36
This........ Hotler Sep 2014 #24
TS went pop... ileus Sep 2014 #25
If only. Are_grits_groceries Sep 2014 #46
she shakes off your comment. ileus Sep 2014 #49
Here's one that actually makes a point tularetom Sep 2014 #26
It's all Billy ray Cyrus' fault! janlyn Sep 2014 #28
Sorry, but I must. LWolf Sep 2014 #31
Jason Aldean is one I do like in general. Are_grits_groceries Sep 2014 #47
Highwayman panader0 Sep 2014 #35
good topic, yes, most of todays country music is dreklike. lol@ "Palmetto Bug Boys" Sunlei Sep 2014 #38
Don't get to hear contemporary country much -- DirkGently Sep 2014 #42
A lot of times it's the lyrics that win me over. johnp3907 Sep 2014 #43
Oh that's true for me too. Are_grits_groceries Sep 2014 #45
So, what happens when you play country music backwards? eridani Sep 2014 #44
'popular' country music is yesterday's light rock... just with a Southern drawl JCMach1 Sep 2014 #50
Radio-friendly country these days is crap. alarimer Sep 2014 #51

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
1. I like older country.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 06:09 AM
Sep 2014

Willie Nelson, Crystal Gayle, Linda Ronstadt (Blue Bayou), Patsy Cline, Charlie Rich and a few others. Country music now is too twangy.

joshdawg

(2,651 posts)
5. If you like older country,
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 06:30 AM
Sep 2014

try listening to Hank Williams SR., Ernest Tubb, Ferlin Husky, Webb Pierce, etc. Was brought up listening to those fine gentlemen and don't regret it at all. Prefer them to what is being put forth as "country" music today. Just MHO.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
34. Plus
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 11:40 AM
Sep 2014

The Everly Brothers did some country, like "Silver Haired Daddy", "I'm Just Here to Get My Baby Out Of Jail", "Maybe Tomorrow", and a bunch of others.

Conway Twitty

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
13. A lot of older country music was twangier than hell.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 07:07 AM
Sep 2014

My Daddy used to watch the Porter Waggoner show with a very young Dolly Parton. I got so tired of hearing the steel guitar, I stopped listening for a while.

Now most of it doesn't bother me. It sounds so subdued compared to what I had heard. There were and are artists who used very little if any steel guitar.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
14. I love country music but not all of it. Clint Black, Darius Rucker, Yearwood, etc. but Taylor Swift
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 07:14 AM
Sep 2014

you can have. I think she is one of the most untalented kid idols out there...but just one.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
32. Taylor Swift is not an idiot
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 11:32 AM
Sep 2014

She may not be your cup of tea. But she writes her own music and has made more money then she could spend in 5 lifetimes. If only I could be an idiot like her.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
40. No she's not an idiot.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 01:07 PM
Sep 2014

I have never said and thought that. She is talented and does write, play and sing.
That said, her choice of material has grown little. I had defended her because I expected her music to broaden. It hasn't.
Her failure to expand her topics and sound will keep her from being a great artist no matter how much money she makes.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
41. You know what? I went back to read your original post
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 01:59 PM
Sep 2014

And read it completely wrong. Put idol for idiot. I don't know why I am reading words incorrectly lately. I aplogize a million times over. I feel horrible!

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
30. Same here, and
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 11:16 AM
Sep 2014

Some of the same artists.

Charlie Rich is actually my favorite. He had an awesome voice, IMO.

Have you ever heard him do "Nothing In The World"?

His voice in that reminds me of a musical instrument. Maybe a clarinet.

anyway, here it is for anyone who has never heard it



Takket

(21,620 posts)
2. I thought this was going to be a thread about John McCain lol
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 06:11 AM
Sep 2014

Country music has never been my thing. But I agree that it us not just the ultra right wingers are there at the forefront anymore.

Arkansas Granny

(31,528 posts)
3. There are a few country artists that I can listen to,
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 06:14 AM
Sep 2014

but I can't drink enough beer to listen to country music. I do have my alarm set to a country station, however. That way, I won't lay in bed in the morning listening to the tunes. I'll get up and turn that shit off.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
6. Got some friends in low places...
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 06:36 AM
Sep 2014

Where the whiskey drowns and...

No Garth Brooks? He's always been one of my favorites. I remember dancing around my living room to his music when I was like six years old.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
7. Molly Ivins on country music
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 06:38 AM
Sep 2014
http://www.correntewire.com/channelling_molly_pt_1_an_unbowed_feminist_confronts_popular_idiocy_camille_who

Well, by George, as a First Amendment absolutist, you'll find me willing to spring to the defense of Camille Paglia's right to be a feminist Rolling Stones fan any hour, day or night. Come to think of it, who the hell was the Stalin who wouldn't let her do that? I went back and researched the '69 politburo, and all I could find was Betty Friedan, Bella Abzug, and Gloria Steinem, none of whom ever seems to have come out against rock music.

I have myself quite cheerfully been both a country-music fan and a feminist for years --- if Camille Paglia is the cosmos, so am I. When some fellow feminist doesn't like my music (How could you not like "You are just another sticky wheel on the grocery cart of life?&quot , I have always felt free to say, in my politically correct feminist fashion, "Fuck off."

TexasProgresive

(12,158 posts)
8. I find the best music no matter the genre
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 06:50 AM
Sep 2014

is off the beaten path, although I would avoid the joints with chicken wire around the stage. My cousin owns a little rural store and twice a week they have local musicians play which bring good crowds. Since they don't serve alcohol- just steaks, burgers and salads the crowds, even those who bring their own booze, are respectful. All in all it is a plus, even if everyone around here is red.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
11. You need to google the 'Chitlin' Circuit.'
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 07:03 AM
Sep 2014

That was a real off the beaten path group of places. Some of it still exists. It's mostly associated with R&B.
White musicians have played it too, but they better have some chops.

BTW the best food is off the beaten path too. You just better know where it is and not go to some really nasty places. Ask the locals. The buildings may not look like much, but boy the food can be sublime.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
9. I'm a huge music fan.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 06:51 AM
Sep 2014

.... I listen to a lot of different stuff, electronica, progressive rock, cool jazz, and even some country. I am now at the age where it is hard to find new stuff I like in any genre.

When I was a kid my dad listened to nothing but that country stuff and I grew to hate it. Who knew that as an adult I would eventually grow to love a lot of the stuff I heard in the early 60s, Patsy Cline, Willie Nelson (folks he's been around a LONG time) Johnny Cash, Hank Williams, and even some of the lesser known artists that are not cool now like Ray Price or Faron Young.

That said, today's country music is pretty much a joke. Sure, Ms. Musgraves' album is better than crap and there are tons of country artists on the fringe making great stuff. But if you turned on the country radio in 1962 you would hear some crap and a lot of great music. Now, you are going to hear crap, crap and more crap. In particular the soulless, cookie cutter guys singing heartfelt songs about nothing to music a 5 year old could compose because it's been done 100,000 times before. Really, it's hard to tell one from the other because they all sing the same, sound the same and basically are the same.

Taylor Swift is a beautiful lady but she's really not much better.

Just felt like venting

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
10. We generally agree.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 06:57 AM
Sep 2014

There are songs worth the time, but as I said, you have to wade through the dreck. I listen just to find the gems and to mark those artists. They tend to get lost in the backwash of all that beer.

A very good artist who is real country is David Ball. Dwight Yoakum is also good and he represents what is known as the California sound. It's still country, but with a distinctive touch.

DawgHouse

(4,019 posts)
29. It's the Bakersfield sound, brought to you by Buck Owens and Merle Haggard.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 10:58 AM
Sep 2014

Dwight Yoakum is one of my favorites!

malaise

(269,157 posts)
15. There are a few C & W classics that were part of my
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 07:17 AM
Sep 2014

musical experience but I am not a C & W fan. That said, I am more the exception than the norm in these parts. Country music is as popular as Fundie religions with large sections of the Jamaican population.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
37. Yes
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 12:45 PM
Sep 2014

I was flabbergasted when, on a visit to Jamaica, I noticed that large numbers of Jamaicans enjoyed country. I brought my own music which consisted of old ska, rocksteady and reggae - I prefer the oldies. My hotel was in the stages of some construction at that time, and there were a lot of work men around. When I played my cds on my hotel veranda, many stopped to listen. Kind of made me wonder if maybe oldies weren't played so much there. All I heard was friggin dancehall!

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
21. My bad. It's actually called "God Made Girls."
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 07:51 AM
Sep 2014

I must have subconsciously blocked the title.
Here's the video.
Remember:WHAT'S SEEN CANNOT BE UNSEEN

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
22. Freedom loving country yeoman chained to ClearChannel programming decisions...
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 08:01 AM
Sep 2014

That could explain some of the variance producing melodic dissatisfaction.

One of the benefits of being misaligned with the market models of commercial radio is it motivated me to turn to my own choices.

I found out Mp3 players and ear-buds are actually sold to people with gray hair and you don't -have- to get them at Wal-Mart. You can buy them in the tax-free store at the V.A.!

Great for a person that prefers listening to a different drummer (oh, I do like Irish Rock) or music with no drummer at all (Leo Kottke), or music with the whole sheebang (Orff's as in Carmina burana).

panader0

(25,816 posts)
33. Steve Earle is cool.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 11:36 AM
Sep 2014

I play in a band, mostly blues, rock and originals, but I convinced my mates to play some Steve Earle. We also cover 'Folsom'
by Cash and 'Fast as You' by Dwight Yoakum. Several others too, now that I think of it. Earle does an Irish tune too: 'Galway Girl'.

janlyn

(735 posts)
28. It's all Billy ray Cyrus' fault!
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 10:46 AM
Sep 2014

I consider him and his achy breaky heart as the father of the disaster I call bubble gum country!

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
31. Sorry, but I must.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 11:21 AM
Sep 2014


I like old country. Partly because I heard it growing up, partly because of it's relationship to folk music, which is a genre that I love. I'm not that fond of commercial country music. To put it lightly. I'm surrounded by it, living rurally as I do. This song is a favorite of some of my students. I haven't pointed out the innuendo. In middle school, some probably get that part and some don't. But they'll all listen and love it because it's country.

We play music in the classroom sometimes. When they request country, sometimes I play country that I can stand to listen to. Sometimes my sarcastic nature takes over and I play these:



Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
47. Jason Aldean is one I do like in general.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 05:15 AM
Sep 2014

He has his moments, but he has written some good country songs. Blake Shelton and Brad Paisley are two more with many good country songs.
Hey. If your students want country, give them a history lesson and play some great oldies. Widen their view of it.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
38. good topic, yes, most of todays country music is dreklike. lol@ "Palmetto Bug Boys"
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 12:58 PM
Sep 2014
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DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
42. Don't get to hear contemporary country much --
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 02:13 PM
Sep 2014

... but I was in a chain joint for lunch the other day (not my day to pick) that styles itself as a "Texas Roadhouse," and they were playing an endless stream of generic awfulness, which only identified as "country" by a uniform, kinda fakey "twang" in the singing. It was horrific crap.

When a certain song came on, all the servers stopped what they were doing and performed a "line dance" in the aisles.

I don't think it's even fair for people to base not liking "country music" on this stuff. It's a cowboy hat and an accent on soft pop blechh that has nothing to do with any of the traditional stuff in my opinion.

johnp3907

(3,732 posts)
43. A lot of times it's the lyrics that win me over.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 02:34 PM
Sep 2014





And then of course a lot of great Rock songs are actually Country songs. The Weight, Up On Cripple Creek, and The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down by The Band spring to mind.
And I once had an argument with a friend over whether Don't Go Back To Rockville by R.E.M. was a Country song. In her mind it couldn't be because she hated Country but liked R.E.M.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
45. Oh that's true for me too.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 05:06 AM
Sep 2014

If you hear a country song and automatically shut it out, you may miss a great story or message.
Kacey Musgraves is an example. 'Follow Your Arrow' may sound like a light country jaunt. Who knew she was rocking 'same love' and weed? It gave and still gives the more conservative singers complete agita.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
44. So, what happens when you play country music backwards?
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 03:09 AM
Sep 2014

You get your truck back, you get your dog back, you get your wife back, and you quit drinking.

JCMach1

(27,572 posts)
50. 'popular' country music is yesterday's light rock... just with a Southern drawl
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 09:37 AM
Sep 2014

I hate that stuff with a passion...

However, there is also alternative country and roots country.

One of my particular favorites..., Jim White

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
51. Radio-friendly country these days is crap.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 10:00 AM
Sep 2014

But also there is a whole world of other music out there that no one should really have to bother with what is played on the radio.

From the top of my head, here are some good ones that you will NEVER hear on Hot Country 103 or whatever.

Drive-by Truckers
Jason Isbell (formerly of the Drive-by Truckers)- check out his song Dress Blues. It kills me every time.
Lydia Loveless
Guy Clark
Old 97s.

Etc, etc.

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