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Peacetrain

(22,872 posts)
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 05:03 PM Aug 2014

This miserable S.O.B is now threatening nuclear war..

http://news.yahoo.com/putin-says-russia-ready-respond-aggression-123956691.html



Don't mess with nuclear Russia, Putin says
Reuters
By Alexei Anishchuk 5 hours ago



LAKE SELIGER Russia (Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin said on Friday Russia's armed forces, backed by its nuclear arsenal, were ready to meet any aggression, declaring at a pro-Kremlin youth camp that foreign states should understand: "It's best not to mess with us."
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This miserable S.O.B is now threatening nuclear war.. (Original Post) Peacetrain Aug 2014 OP
Pro-Kremlin youth camp? louis-t Aug 2014 #1
Well, Putin is a fascist, so it stands to follow. joshcryer Aug 2014 #3
Read: brainwashing facility Takket Aug 2014 #46
Sad to say...but it may be time to get this guy back on the job. Ryano42 Aug 2014 #2
Maurice? Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2014 #15
Just watched it yesterday! JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #55
Sounds like we're back with Nikita Khrushchev! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2014 #4
What a spectacularly deranged nimrod Putin is.. Peacetrain Aug 2014 #6
I think his behavior is irrational and I do wonder if there is an underlying cause. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2014 #12
After decades of trying to get nuclear missiles under control Peacetrain Aug 2014 #16
Yeah--he must be going nuts. Louisiana1976 Aug 2014 #28
Last I heard his nuclear arsenal Control-Z Aug 2014 #5
The last you heard? former9thward Aug 2014 #20
Wow. What the hell did I do Control-Z Aug 2014 #39
There is no end of propaganda about Russia. former9thward Aug 2014 #49
That's just not true. There have been stories. Control-Z Aug 2014 #60
The U.S. has the same problems. former9thward Aug 2014 #62
Hmm. Control-Z Aug 2014 #63
We certainly did in 1962. former9thward Aug 2014 #66
Lolol. Control-Z Aug 2014 #69
Don't worry about him he was rooting for the Sgt that was captured to be tried as a traitor. He is Katashi_itto Aug 2014 #61
Thanks, Katashi_itto! Control-Z Aug 2014 #64
Np, Yeah that was my first reaction to him too. Katashi_itto Aug 2014 #67
And still using 8 inch floppies GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #50
Oh my gawd! Lolol. Control-Z Aug 2014 #65
This message was self-deleted by its author roamer65 Aug 2014 #70
Can I take this to mean to cold war is back on? Was it ever off? LiberalAndProud Aug 2014 #7
Putin is singlehandedly pulling us back into a cold war stance. Peacetrain Aug 2014 #9
Absolutely true. Louisiana1976 Aug 2014 #29
I think it was off GP6971 Aug 2014 #27
I seem to remember some controversy when a Russian visited a missile silo LiberalAndProud Aug 2014 #30
No way GP6971 Aug 2014 #33
It must be a unique and interesting view of the rest of the world. LiberalAndProud Aug 2014 #35
Loved going into work GP6971 Aug 2014 #36
So far I don't see anyone messing with you Lord Pootie Poot. Rex Aug 2014 #8
Do you think he is worried that Ukraine's vast and powerful army will invade Russia? pampango Aug 2014 #53
What are things nuclear powers say for $1000, Alex? Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #10
Puttie's Mafia buds are pissed. Wellstone ruled Aug 2014 #11
Excellent points. Louisiana1976 Aug 2014 #31
+1000. nt adirondacker Aug 2014 #37
My fear is that they are more ready for war than we.... kentuck Aug 2014 #13
You have got to be kidding me.. are we threatening the world with nuclear annihilation Peacetrain Aug 2014 #14
More ready in what respect Lurks Often Aug 2014 #19
But then... kentuck Aug 2014 #22
I think we're seeing a reaction CJCRANE Aug 2014 #17
Samatha Power calling Putin a Liar at UN, PBO going after Russia using undiplomatic language KoKo Aug 2014 #56
Disgusting BUT Putins survival is based on his actions now flamingdem Aug 2014 #18
'Cause Putin has dictators waiting in the wings? Cha Aug 2014 #25
Not sure what he's got in the wings! flamingdem Aug 2014 #43
I always find it interesting... Scootaloo Aug 2014 #21
Agreed. I half expected this OP to be about John McCain arcane1 Aug 2014 #23
Not really.. sendero Aug 2014 #52
"declaring at a pro-Kremlin youth camp.." Kinda like RT only for Russian youths? Cha Aug 2014 #24
When the US greytdemocrat Aug 2014 #26
Well said. Louisiana1976 Aug 2014 #32
You're not missing the sarcasm tag, are you? LiberalAndProud Aug 2014 #34
Heard it on Fox maybe? emulatorloo Aug 2014 #41
It's clear that this crisis has come down to only two real options for NATO: Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #38
Well option two will never happen. Rex Aug 2014 #40
That seems like the choices, all right. Wella Aug 2014 #47
Russia wants the West to stop surrounding it with Nato bases. That's what this is about... KoKo Aug 2014 #57
Wow...the drama in this thread! Xolodno Aug 2014 #42
He might not have even meant that, or the translation could be inaccurate. Sounds more like a Stardust Aug 2014 #48
Maybe I'll be the lucky ones to get blasted to smithereens if this thing kicks off 951-Riverside Aug 2014 #44
Is that the Russian version of "Bring it on!". Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #45
I've seen this movie before. CJCRANE Aug 2014 #51
That's pretty much what this is about.... Enemies everywhere... KoKo Aug 2014 #58
As the election approaches (now, and in 2016), look for more such stories demwing Aug 2014 #54
Actually given the War Fever promoted by MSM ....maybe John McCain should KoKo Aug 2014 #59
Just another little short guy with huge ego issues. leftyladyfrommo Aug 2014 #68
Pootie poot is a neo-Stalinist. roamer65 Aug 2014 #71

JustAnotherGen

(31,781 posts)
55. Just watched it yesterday!
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 08:31 AM
Aug 2014


A strange game.

The only winning move is not to play.


How about a nice game of chess?



I agree with Joshua. Have since I made my mom take me to see it four times 31 years ago.

Peacetrain

(22,872 posts)
6. What a spectacularly deranged nimrod Putin is..
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 05:19 PM
Aug 2014

He has spent too many days with his shirt off wrestling toothless bears.. I cannot believe a sane world leader would say something like that..

Peacetrain

(22,872 posts)
16. After decades of trying to get nuclear missiles under control
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 05:50 PM
Aug 2014

I lived through the cold war.. good bad and indifferent.. all the work that has been done on all sides trying to get these things under control.. He really does have some type of derangement going on to try and get this kind of blustering going again..

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
39. Wow. What the hell did I do
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 10:28 PM
Aug 2014

to deserve your demeaning snark? How old are you? 17?

There's been more than one program reporting on the decay of Russia's nuclear weapons and the absence of any real security since the cold war ended.

That, dear, IS the last I had heard about it.

former9thward

(31,941 posts)
49. There is no end of propaganda about Russia.
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 02:08 AM
Aug 2014

1950s all over again. When I was in the Air Force I was part of a team who looked at our missile silos in the Midwest. We found that 2/3s of our missiles were incapable of firing due to corrosion and other problems. But of course you never hear about that.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
60. That's just not true. There have been stories.
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 03:26 PM
Aug 2014

Still no excuse for being such a snot to me. An apology would have been the acceptable response.

former9thward

(31,941 posts)
62. The U.S. has the same problems.
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 04:18 PM
Aug 2014

How come you are not mocking the U.S.? I have no respect for "stories" about this stuff.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
69. Lolol.
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 06:12 PM
Aug 2014

So you are living in the 60s. Gawd damn if that doesn't explain soooooo much. (Hint. It's the 21st century.)

Now apologize for being so obnoxious or just end this dialogue. I've had enough of your games.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
61. Don't worry about him he was rooting for the Sgt that was captured to be tried as a traitor. He is
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 03:29 PM
Aug 2014

an authority on nothing.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
65. Oh my gawd! Lolol.
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 05:23 PM
Aug 2014

It took me a second to remember what those even were. Best laugh I've had all day! Thanks!

Response to Control-Z (Reply #5)

GP6971

(31,113 posts)
27. I think it was off
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 08:52 PM
Aug 2014

in the early 90s. I worked for a international grocery distributor and we were all scratching our heads when we were asked to quote pricing on "canned bear". Turned out they wanted pricing on canned beer. Plus we supplied a new store in central Russia.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
30. I seem to remember some controversy when a Russian visited a missile silo
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 08:59 PM
Aug 2014

when Bill was president. So there was a momentary thaw.

Your account was interesting. I suppose now you'll tell me you worked for that place that brands itself "Supermarket to the world."

GP6971

(31,113 posts)
33. No way
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 09:43 PM
Aug 2014

I worked for them for 12 years........great the first 10 years then it went all downhill from there...new senior management that didn't trust anyone who was there more than 5 years. I was the 11th to be let go. Looking back, probably the best thing that happened to me. Scum company

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
35. It must be a unique and interesting view of the rest of the world.
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 09:51 PM
Aug 2014

It was a good job to have for a while.

GP6971

(31,113 posts)
36. Loved going into work
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 09:57 PM
Aug 2014

I can count on one hand the times I didn't want to go in to work for the first ten tears. After that, not so much. Name of the company.......Supervalu......otherwise know as sewervalu.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
8. So far I don't see anyone messing with you Lord Pootie Poot.
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 05:21 PM
Aug 2014

I guess Mr. Vain is getting upset that the world is not staring at his pectorals 24/7?

pampango

(24,692 posts)
53. Do you think he is worried that Ukraine's vast and powerful army will invade Russia?
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 07:12 AM
Aug 2014

Hey, conservatives have to keep their folks scared and fired up. "I am all that stands between you and those evil - Ukrainians, Europeans, Americans, etc. We are fighting them in Ukraine so that we don't have to fight them in the streets of Moscow!"

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
11. Puttie's Mafia buds are pissed.
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 05:33 PM
Aug 2014

Sanctions are hitting his buds pocket books big time. Ol Vlad is not a dummy. It's all about the control of our planets Oil reserves. He knows he is in the drivers seat with the 3rd or 4th largest oil and gas proven reserves. Duh! We are like the 14th in known reserves. JP-Morgan,Exon-Mobile,and others have hundreds of millions hanging out there in the Ukraine and in Russia. When the posturing finishes,Vald and President Obama will have a photo op and all will be Okay. BTW,big checks cut to the participating political campaigns. Same shit different day,mean while,Fake noise and CNN as well as NBC/comcast as well as the Disney/ABC,will wring their hands and bring on their over paid Pundents to tell us how bad our President is and we should be bombing the hell out of Benghazi.


Sound familiar,it should,Military-Industrial-complex at it's best.

kentuck

(111,052 posts)
13. My fear is that they are more ready for war than we....
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 05:41 PM
Aug 2014

..especially in Europe and their part of the world. Did anyone really think they would not fight for Ukraine? We can accuse them of having a thousand soldiers in Ukraine at the same time we put a thousand soldiers in Iraq. But there really isn't that much difference.

Peacetrain

(22,872 posts)
14. You have got to be kidding me.. are we threatening the world with nuclear annihilation
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 05:47 PM
Aug 2014

if we don't get our way.. NO!

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
19. More ready in what respect
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 06:03 PM
Aug 2014

Putin and Russia may be more willing to go to war, but involving NATO and more especially the United States would be a grave miscalculation. The Russian military is nowhere as capable as the US military, the biggest concern would be that Russia is defeated so badly that Putin might resort to "tactical" nuclear weapons in a last ditch effort to save both himself and Russia from looking so weak that the Chinese start looking across their border with designs on Siberia and the resources there.

kentuck

(111,052 posts)
22. But then...
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 06:11 PM
Aug 2014

we would have to stop hitch-hiking a ride to the space station with them... It would be good to remember that there are no victors in war. I would agree that it is despicable to even think of nuclear war as a means to resolve differences.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
56. Samatha Power calling Putin a Liar at UN, PBO going after Russia using undiplomatic language
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 08:39 AM
Aug 2014

this past week. You don't use the kind of language both did and not expect push back.

That context has been left out of the comments here. And, I'm not going to bother to get the link to Power's diatribe at UN or Obama's full speech about Putin and Russia which was a challenge to Putin and Russia. Most here have seen both as they've been played over and over in the media and on the net.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
18. Disgusting BUT Putins survival is based on his actions now
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 06:03 PM
Aug 2014

He will not survive if he shows any weakness.

So best to ignore the rhetoric.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
43. Not sure what he's got in the wings!
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 12:58 AM
Aug 2014

Just hoping it's not nukes. Just saying that the nuke talk sounds like bravado. Was reading that Putin won't survive the crisis politically so he had to trot out nukes as a deterrent, so old school.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
21. I always find it interesting...
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 06:04 PM
Aug 2014

That when nations we don't like say "we will respond to being attacked' we say they are threatening to attack. But when nations we do like actually do launch attacks, we pretend they're acting in pure self-defense.

Putin's an ass, but he's not making threats, he's issuing a warning to not attack Russia.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
52. Not really..
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 07:06 AM
Aug 2014

.... he's warning the west not to interfere with his takeover of Ukraine. Hardly "defensive".

Cha

(296,867 posts)
24. "declaring at a pro-Kremlin youth camp.." Kinda like RT only for Russian youths?
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 08:43 PM
Aug 2014

"It's best not to mess with us".. Like Putin is Messing with Ukraine and that all the other shit he messes with?

thank you, Peacetrain.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
38. It's clear that this crisis has come down to only two real options for NATO:
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 10:11 PM
Aug 2014

1. Let Putin grab his chunk of Southeast Ukraine so he has his goddamned protective blanket around Crimea; and hope he doesn't have further ambitions to move in on Kiev...

2. Prepare to engage Russia in a wider-scale war...

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
57. Russia wants the West to stop surrounding it with Nato bases. That's what this is about...
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 08:53 AM
Aug 2014

That was the agreement. Putin wants Ukraine to be a Federation and to partner with both EU and Russia. That was his proposal. The Coup promoted by the Neocons and NGO's and the rest want Russia surrounded by Nato and Russia will not stand for Ukraine to have a Nato Base on it's borders. Just as USA would not tolerate Russian Missiles in Cuba. Its a matter of protecting Russian territory and it's access to ports. It won't tolerate Ukrain with Nato base and yet that's exactly what Ukraine's Prime Minister "Yats" as Neocon Victoria Nuland of US State Department has called Nato to have an "emergency meeting" over in the the next week. Ukraine is requesting special treatment for Nato Base. If they are so innocent why do they need a Nato base? Putin sees this as a direct threat to Russia.

It will not go well...

Xolodno

(6,384 posts)
42. Wow...the drama in this thread!
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 12:50 AM
Aug 2014

He is using nationalism to inspire youths....hello? Just like our own politicians will go and inspire our own youths on American Exceptional-ism?

He probably does this on a regular basis...but given current tensions...it gets played in the media (not the media would ever use sensationalism...naw..not ever [stated with heavy bleeding sarcasm]).

Geez...why is this even news. I'm sure politicians from China to Brazil say something similar.

Or this is a thread about "how dare <insert name of country> defy US supremacy!"

Stardust

(3,894 posts)
48. He might not have even meant that, or the translation could be inaccurate. Sounds more like a
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 01:59 AM
Aug 2014

Hollywoood macho one-liner. Could Putin really be that stupid?

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
44. Maybe I'll be the lucky ones to get blasted to smithereens if this thing kicks off
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 01:26 AM
Aug 2014

I'm getting quite tired of these stupid suit wearing primates holding the world hostage with their weapons of mass destruction. If they have a problem with each other they should just fight it out in cage but leave the rest of the world out of it.

I'm sick of wars!
I'm sick of grandstanding!
I'm sick of propaganda!
I'm sick of being scared!


CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
51. I've seen this movie before.
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 06:40 AM
Aug 2014

Saddam is crazy. He is the new Hitler.

Gadaffi is crazy. He is the new Hitler.

Assad is crazy. He is the new Hitler.

Repeat ad nauseam.

When people are threatened by neocon propaganda they reply in kind.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
58. That's pretty much what this is about.... Enemies everywhere...
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 08:59 AM
Aug 2014

More money for the MIC...and the Vast Security Agencies.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
54. As the election approaches (now, and in 2016), look for more such stories
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 08:01 AM
Aug 2014

trying to make Mitt Romney seem prescient.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
59. Actually given the War Fever promoted by MSM ....maybe John McCain should
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 09:04 AM
Aug 2014

run again. Maybe make General Dempsey his running mate and "Bombs Away!" McCain already has creds since he was in Syria doing photo ops with the "Rebels"...(the ones that became ISIS) and in Ukraine before the Coup posting with the NeoNazi far right Svoboda thugs just before Victoria Nuland showed up doing a photo op passing "sweets" (and probably envelopes of cash--not photo oped) to the same.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,866 posts)
68. Just another little short guy with huge ego issues.
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 05:30 PM
Aug 2014

He is really a piece of work.

And yet he is so popular in Russia.

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