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Cha

(296,848 posts)
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 02:56 AM Aug 2014

Perk of Perry Indictment.. Did he know this when he was smilin' for his mug shot?

Herman: Indicted Gov. Rick Perry can’t carry concealed gun or buy ammo

Forget that it could ruin his presidential aspirations. Look beyond the possibility he could spend about a century in prison explaining to fellow inmates (with names like Mad Dog and Widowmaker) the intricacies of constitutional law and vetoes.

Those of you who wish ill upon Gov. Rick Perry (and shame on you for doing so) perhaps will find delight in the fact that his indictment already has hit him where it hurts. It’s right there in federal law, specifically the federal law known as 18 USC 922(n), and I quote:

It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person (1) is under indictment for, or has been convicted in any court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year.”

Thanks to last week’s indictment, your fun-with-guns governor is now in that category.

For those of you who’ve been sleeping since it happened Friday, Travis County grand jurors indicted Perry on charges of abuse of official capacity and coercion of a public servant. The first count carries a possible prison term of five to 99 years. The second, two to 10. I’m no expert on law or math, but I believe those potential sentences each exceed one year."

More..
http://www.mystatesman.com/news/news/local/herman-indicted-gov-rick-perry-cant-carry-conceale/ng5h2/#2e1d8bc1.257319.735464

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http://theobamadiary.com/2014/08/19/chat-on-38/

Just because..



"And, he noted, Perry can no longer carry a handgun while jogging on public property, as he was doing when he famously gunned down a menacing coyote in 2010."
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Perk of Perry Indictment.. Did he know this when he was smilin' for his mug shot? (Original Post) Cha Aug 2014 OP
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BANG gordianot Aug 2014 #4
BAM! Cha Aug 2014 #5
BOOM gordianot Aug 2014 #6
No more for Perry.. he'll feel empty without his infamous sidearm. Cha Aug 2014 #7
Barrump-bump! calimary Aug 2014 #9
mahalo, calimary~ Cha Aug 2014 #10
. Cha Aug 2014 #8
I love that pic. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #11
You're welcome, Uncle Joe.. I thought it was worth noting that ol smilin Rick won't Cha Aug 2014 #12
K & R SunSeeker Aug 2014 #13
Oh good.. you already found it.. I just left Cha Aug 2014 #14
It's the rule of law, ya know. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #15
Yes, darn law.. and he'd better not break that one, TexasT! Cha Aug 2014 #17
What you wanna bet he'll keep on being a tool? It's not in him to rise any higher. Gawd help us all. freshwest Aug 2014 #16
Perry's DNA is riddled with TOOL. He'll never change.. he could even make this Cha Aug 2014 #19
Oh, noes! I fear that will leave a big hole in our border defenses... pinboy3niner Aug 2014 #18
OH NOES!!111.. He won't look like such a Cha Aug 2014 #20
No more toting mwrguy Aug 2014 #21
really, mwrguy.. whatever will he do without his trusty sidearm?! Cha Aug 2014 #23
Does he get to keep any he already owns or do they confiscate them? nt Live and Learn Aug 2014 #22
I don't know about that, Live and Learn.. just that he doesn't get to go packin' in public.. Cha Aug 2014 #24
That is how I read it but doesn't really make sense. Live and Learn Aug 2014 #25
It doesn't make sense because the OP misread the law. former9thward Aug 2014 #60
I watched the booking yesterday live on the livestream Gothmog Aug 2014 #26
The visual must have been extraordinary, Gothmog! Cha Aug 2014 #34
It was fun Gothmog Aug 2014 #37
Ye-ah! After 14 years.. this where he's at. Cha Aug 2014 #38
What cracks me up is when he said this was politically motivated. Kinda like B Calm Aug 2014 #27
Yeah, ol genius just thought he'd throw that out there.. Cha Aug 2014 #35
That's what finger pointers do. Accuse the other person of doing what they are doing. B Calm Aug 2014 #42
Yep, that's what sociopaths do. smh Another page from the republicon playbook.. Cha Aug 2014 #43
Ha! Good... sheshe2 Aug 2014 #28
The streets are safer in the interim in good ol Texas, she! Cha Aug 2014 #36
so no more photo ops of side gunner perry? Javaman Aug 2014 #29
We're safe from Perry and his Gun Ops for awhile, Javaman. Cha Aug 2014 #39
true, but we will never be safe from his massively inflated ego. nt Javaman Aug 2014 #40
Right.. only the Gun OPs part. Perry's arrogant ego will continue.. maybe even worse Cha Aug 2014 #41
There are three things Perry can't live without... Rex Aug 2014 #30
I have no history of smiling upon hearing Perry's name, but now when I see his name in print Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #31
Yeah, ol Perry getting his just desserts for at least being Indicted and losing his Gun Privileges.. Cha Aug 2014 #44
Absolutely. He and his lawyers went for ice cream...the idiot's Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #46
Sorry, it took so long to get back to your post, Jefferson! Thank you so much for this!.. Cha Aug 2014 #48
You are most welcome, Cha. Things are getting interesting for Perry. I like Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #55
:) Cha Aug 2014 #57
You are misreading the law. former9thward Aug 2014 #32
k+R!! flamingdem Aug 2014 #33
Mahalo flamingdem! Cha Aug 2014 #45
KnR~ sheshe2 Aug 2014 #47
Thanks she.. I've been so Cha Aug 2014 #50
P.S. look what Jamaal came up with, she! Cha Aug 2014 #52
... Jamaal510 Aug 2014 #49
Freakin' Perfect, Jamaal! Cha Aug 2014 #51
My kids told me that the TDP is selling mugs with perry's mugshot Gothmog Aug 2014 #53
What's the TDP? Cha Aug 2014 #54
Texas Democratic Party Gothmog Aug 2014 #56
oh Haha LOL ROFL! Cha Aug 2014 #58
I have a feeling that I will be buying a few of these mugs Gothmog Aug 2014 #59

Cha

(296,848 posts)
12. You're welcome, Uncle Joe.. I thought it was worth noting that ol smilin Rick won't
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 03:40 AM
Aug 2014

be able to legally carry his beloved sidearm since he went and got himself indicted "on charges of abuse of official capacity and coercion of a public servant. The first count carries a possible prison term of five to 99 years. The second, two to 10. I’m no expert on law or math, but I believe those potential sentences each exceed one year."

The pic just goes with it..

Cha

(296,848 posts)
14. Oh good.. you already found it.. I just left
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 04:01 AM
Aug 2014

you a bread crumb on that other Perry thread as you know by now.

TexasTowelie

(111,944 posts)
15. It's the rule of law, ya know.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 04:29 AM
Aug 2014


I still wish they had banned him from leaving the state and require him to wear an ankle monitor though.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
16. What you wanna bet he'll keep on being a tool? It's not in him to rise any higher. Gawd help us all.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 04:29 AM
Aug 2014

Cha

(296,848 posts)
19. Perry's DNA is riddled with TOOL. He'll never change.. he could even make this
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 04:53 AM
Aug 2014

exponentially worse for himself.. cause he's a FOOL, too.

Mahalo, freshwest~

Cha

(296,848 posts)
20. OH NOES!!111.. He won't look like such a
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 04:58 AM
Aug 2014

bad MOFO now! Who will take Perry's place in the Gun OPs!?

"And, he noted, Perry can no longer carry a handgun while jogging on public property, as he was doing when he famously gunned down a menacing coyote in 2010."

Cha

(296,848 posts)
24. I don't know about that, Live and Learn.. just that he doesn't get to go packin' in public..
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 06:02 AM
Aug 2014

nor buy any news ones.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
25. That is how I read it but doesn't really make sense.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 06:06 AM
Aug 2014

Most places wait until you are convicted and then make you give up any you have and forbid you from buying any.

former9thward

(31,940 posts)
60. It doesn't make sense because the OP misread the law.
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 09:22 AM
Aug 2014

Perry can do whatever he wants with his guns including carrying them in public. The law applies to those selling weapons to someone under indictment.

Cha

(296,848 posts)
38. Ye-ah! After 14 years.. this where he's at.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 06:52 PM
Aug 2014

Not that he won't slime out of it but he still can't go gun totin' photo-op for awhile!

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
27. What cracks me up is when he said this was politically motivated. Kinda like
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 08:43 AM
Aug 2014

what he did when he cut off the funding?

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
42. That's what finger pointers do. Accuse the other person of doing what they are doing.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 07:41 PM
Aug 2014

Republicans wrote the book on finger pointing!

Cha

(296,848 posts)
43. Yep, that's what sociopaths do. smh Another page from the republicon playbook..
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 07:50 PM
Aug 2014
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Javaman

(62,503 posts)
29. so no more photo ops of side gunner perry?
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 10:02 AM
Aug 2014


I think we can certainly do without his sense of false bravado.

Cha

(296,848 posts)
41. Right.. only the Gun OPs part. Perry's arrogant ego will continue.. maybe even worse
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 07:37 PM
Aug 2014

without his props!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
30. There are three things Perry can't live without...
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 10:06 AM
Aug 2014

Clown makeup, a hidden gun close to his pecker and...and...er...um...

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
31. I have no history of smiling upon hearing Perry's name, but now when I see his name in print
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 10:28 AM
Aug 2014

or hear it through the media...I smile, a lot.


Cha

(296,848 posts)
44. Yeah, ol Perry getting his just desserts for at least being Indicted and losing his Gun Privileges..
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 08:24 PM
Aug 2014

is definitely worthy, Jefferson.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
46. Absolutely. He and his lawyers went for ice cream...the idiot's
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 09:04 PM
Aug 2014

legal team seems to think this will be a confidence builder..indicted? No biggie..lets get ice cream.

Perry's Mug Shot
Governor arraigned on two felony charges: Twitter goes dewy-eyed
By Richard Whittaker, 9:37AM, Wed. Aug. 20

Update: Perry has pleaded "not guilty" to both felony counts relating to abuse of power and coercion of a public servant. Perry's lawyers have waived his previously scheduled Friday arraignment at the Travis County courthouse.

At 5pm yesterday, Aug. 19, Gov. James Richard "Rick" Perry surrendered himself to Austin Police Department on two felony charges relating to criminal abuse of his office. From the Twitter response, you'd think he'd checked in for a glamour shot.

These are not light allegations. The first, abuse of official capacity, is a first degree felony that carries a sentence of 5-99 years. The second, coercion of a public official, is a third degree felony and carries a maximum sentence of 10 years.

However, unsurprisingly, the event turned into yet another sideshow, courtesy of Perry's legal team/press department (which has previously promised not to fight this in the media). After yet another in the now endless series of press briefings (already far more than Perry manages in the average legislative session), he continued to resmear Travis County District Attorney Rosemary Lehmberg over her DWI conviction, rather than address the substance of the charges against him. He then retreated to Sandy's Hamburgers for an frozen custard. The GOP twitterverse then exploded with the #IStandWithRickPerry hashtag, as supporters turned the image into a proxy presidential campaign poster.

Undoubtedly, Perry's PR/charm offensive has won the first round, with multiple stories quoting the same national-level blowhards (such as former Obama White House adviser David Axelrod) undermining the indictments. However, the push back locally has begun, with stories about why the man who is now savaging the whole legal system is still A-OK with the beyond-shaky conviction of Cameron Todd Willingham, while Wayne Slater of the Dallas Morning News, amongst others, picked up on Progress Texas pointing out that Perry was seemingly fine with Republican DAs busted for drunk driving.

Implicit in all of the allegations is that this is all just a political conspiracy emanating from Democratic Travis County. The problem for Perry's supporters (at least the ones that let themselves be impeded by facts) is that the special prosecutor, Michael McCrum, and the judge that appointed him, Judge Bert Richardson, are both out of San Antonio, and that Richardson is actually the GOP nominee for State Court of Appeals. That may well make the grand jury itself arguably the easiest target, but then that would be predicated on the idea that Travis County is monolithically liberal Democratic (it's not, and neither was the jury). Some jurors are already firing back that, once the public and the court sees the evidence that was presented to them, opinions of Perry's actions will change greatly. Until then, it seems they will keep enduring the smear campaign coming from the right, underscored by the #IStandWithRickPerry hashtag on Twitter. Juror Jana Bessin told the Houston Chronicle, "It's too bad. But I guess that's his side's job – to really spin it."

http://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/news/2014-08-20/perrys-mug-shot/

Cha

(296,848 posts)
48. Sorry, it took so long to get back to your post, Jefferson! Thank you so much for this!..
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 03:36 AM
Aug 2014

"Implicit in all of the allegations is that this is all just a political conspiracy emanating from Democratic Travis County. The problem for Perry's supporters (at least the ones that let themselves be impeded by facts) and that Richardson is actually the GOP nominee for State Court of Appeals. Tis that the special prosecutor, Michael McCrum, and the judge that appointed him, Judge Bert Richardson, are both out of San Antonio,that may well make the grand jury itself arguably the easiest target, but then that would be predicated on the idea that Travis County is monolithically liberal Democratic (it's not, and neither was the jury). Some jurors are already firing back that, once the public and the court sees the evidence that was presented to them, opinions of Perry's actions will change greatly. Until then, it seems they will keep enduring the smear campaign coming from the right, underscored by the #IStandWithRickPerry hashtag on Twitter. Juror Jana Bessin told the Houston Chronicle, "It's too bad. But I guess that's his side's job – to really spin it."

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
55. You are most welcome, Cha. Things are getting interesting for Perry. I like
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 09:01 AM
Aug 2014

what I am reading so far, fingers crossed here and all that.

former9thward

(31,940 posts)
32. You are misreading the law.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 10:57 AM
Aug 2014

The law applies to those selling firearms. The law you quoted has nothing to do with the person indicted.

Cha

(296,848 posts)
50. Thanks she.. I've been so
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 04:42 AM
Aug 2014

busy today to even get back to the Rick Perry/No more Guns for you, Buster.. thread!

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