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Tue Aug 19, 2014, 06:55 PM

Tea Party politics vs Unemployment Insurance 2

Back in 2011, I had written this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1976107

It was entertaining, but also very frightening to see all the wildy diverging and unsourced data about cutting people off from unemployment insurance.

Next month, it will be three years since I wrote that and many of the links from those things I had pasted have since faded. So I decided, why not make another one, all from articles and discussions after I had posted this thread?

So here goes...

"Disagree...It's been shown that about 1/3 of people on unemployment find a job immediatly when the unemployment ends."
-Here is where it's shown. Ready? Ha! Fooled you.
http://www.forums.mlb.com/discussions/Atlanta_Braves/General/Tigers_back/ml-braves/161827.1?redirCnt=2

"Here’s another statistic you should know: two-thirds of people on unemployment find a job… wait for it… within two weeks of their benefits running out. In other words, the job search tends to get serious when the well is about to runs dry.
-Nothing to back this statistic up."
http://wsau.com/blogs/wsau-opinion-blog/44/opinion-seek-and-ye-shall-find/

"The vast majority of people on unemployment find a job within the last two weeks of benefits ending."
-Nowhere to be found.
http://www.utopiaforums.com/boardthread?id=politics&thread=59379

"I think that the records show most people on unemployment get a job about two weeks before their benefits run out."
-Problem finding the record for the record?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3109343/posts

"Government stats show that about 70% of people on unemployment get a job shorty after their Benefits run out. Why? Because all of the sudden they really needed a Job."
-Government stats are pretty easy to cite, why didn't you?
http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/why-do-republicans-keep-saying-the-unemployed-should-just-go-get-a-job.190154/

"There are a lot of statistics that support people getting "comfortable" on government assistance. For instance most people on unemployment get a job within the LAST 2 weeks of their payments."
-2 weeks? Oh really?
http://community.babycenter.com/post/a37688026/just_so_you_know.

"I cannot find the documentation to support this assertion, but I believe it is true that most people on unemployment find a job right before the unemployment expires."
-Finally someone who says he has nothing to support his assertion and admits it's just a belief, that's all you had to say!
http://www.adisgruntledrepublican.com/2014/03/bob-corker-joins-democrats-in.html

It looks like the right wing echo chamber that we don't see is starting to find something to latch onto with two weeks, so if you ever see a person say something like this, ask them where they got their data, and if they say "Most" and "two weeks before", ask them ten times as hard.

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Tue Aug 19, 2014, 07:45 PM

1. There are lies, damn lies, and then there are statistics

If someone were to assert that people always seem to get a job two weeks of their benefits ending, I would respond with "No shit." Employers make you an offer, and then let you start two weeks later after they've had an opportunity to go through their on-boarding process. Then once you start, you cannot collect anymore.

Been there, done that. I did the unemployment dog and pony show for seven weeks this past spring.


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