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Cha

(297,220 posts)
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 10:00 PM Aug 2014

This is what FBI agents are handing out to Ferguson residents near where Mike Brown was killed...



Charles Jaco @charlesjaco1
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This is what FBI agents are handing out to Ferguson residents near where Mike Brown was killed.

11:39 AM - 16 Aug 2014 260 Retweets 72 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/08/16/the-lies-of-the-ferguson-pd-2/#comments

40 FBI agents are in Ferguson to investigate the shooting of Michael Brown

"40 FBI agents have arrived in Ferguson, Missouri to investigate the shooting of unarmed teenager Michael Brown, Missouri Highway Patrol Captain Ron Johnson announced Saturday.

According to Johnson, who is currently in charge of security in Ferguson, the agents were already canvassing the neighborhood where Brown was killed, seeking eyewitnesses to the killing and other evidence.

The FBI also handed out cards requesting information from local residents, which could be filled out and returned to investigators directly, or to members of the local clergy."


"At the onset of our federal civil rights investigation, the Attorney General of the United States promised a thorough and complete investigation into the shooting death of Michael Brown. That investigation is proceeding. We can confirm that FBI agents, working together with attorneys from the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division and US Attorney’s Office, have already conducted several interviews of witnesses on the scene at the time of the shooting. Over the next several days, teams of FBI agents will be canvassing the neighborhood where the shooting took place to identify any individuals who may have information related to the shooting and have not yet come forward. We ask for the public’s cooperation and patience, and again urge anyone with information related to the shooting to contact the FBI. The FBI can be reached at (800) CALL-FBI, option 4."

More..
http://www.vox.com/2014/8/16/6024539/federal-investigation-begins-40-fbi-agents-arrive-in-ferguson-michael-brown

Voter Registration Table is set up in Freguson in front of the makeshift memorial where Michael Brown was killed..


Jessica Lee @BusquedaJess
in front of the makeshift memorial where Mike Brown was killed, they've set up a voter registration table #Ferguson
8:20 AM - 16 Aug 2014 978 Retweets 645 favorites

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This is what FBI agents are handing out to Ferguson residents near where Mike Brown was killed... (Original Post) Cha Aug 2014 OP
Good idea setting up voter registration tables. bravenak Aug 2014 #1
Excellent Action, brave! They're doing something positive Cha Aug 2014 #3
totally agree Cha and Brave yuiyoshida Aug 2014 #16
mahalo, yuiyoshida~ Cha Aug 2014 #20
They could do THAT by having the Democrats back a local from the neighborhood.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #19
Yes, they could, Spitfire.. That's exactly who they need! Cha Aug 2014 #21
This ^ ^ ^ Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2014 #37
Judging character based on skin color tabasco Aug 2014 #67
Get to the point. bravenak Aug 2014 #71
I thought I already had tabasco Aug 2014 #72
I said the school board looks like a bunch of overseers. bravenak Aug 2014 #73
That's the kind of person he is, Bravenak Ishoutandscream2 Aug 2014 #74
How embarrassing for us. bravenak Aug 2014 #75
Um, they wrote "What if i said...." robbob Aug 2014 #76
That's a cop out. bravenak Aug 2014 #78
I was a leave on the jury. You said "what if" bravnak said 'looks like" Autumn Aug 2014 #79
The stats shocked me cleduc Aug 2014 #105
I find it shocking too. bravenak Aug 2014 #106
I sure hope the animal that did this faces a jury madokie Aug 2014 #2
In Hopes of Justice being Cha Aug 2014 #6
The lies are being exposed for what they are right now madokie Aug 2014 #8
YES! And, being Ever Vigilant! Cha Aug 2014 #11
Yes paying attention is where its at madokie Aug 2014 #64
Good on you, madokie.. it took me a lot longer. Cha Aug 2014 #87
Animals don't kill with malice. roody Aug 2014 #32
+1! SammyWinstonJack Aug 2014 #58
+1,000 CountAllVotes Aug 2014 #101
Actually some do. The chimps Jane Goodall studied, for instance. Schema Thing Aug 2014 #107
Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #59
Yes! sheshe2 Aug 2014 #4
I saw that and I Cha Aug 2014 #7
Hope. We got that! sheshe2 Aug 2014 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #60
Great idea. azmom Aug 2014 #5
Yes, azmom, thank you! Cha Aug 2014 #9
They pretty much just got done here in NM Warpy Aug 2014 #12
Yes, Warpy.. So Hoping it Works.. mahalo! Cha Aug 2014 #14
Been checking the New Mexico Group for news about the DoJ findings and results but have DhhD Aug 2014 #17
seems that every piece of evdence collected every eye witness account taken is being used by police azurnoir Aug 2014 #13
The police are making up shit.. hopefully this will be taken Cha Aug 2014 #15
I really don't mean to be pessimistic but taken out of the polices hands by who? azurnoir Aug 2014 #22
That's okay.. you're drawing from your experience.. I just Cha Aug 2014 #24
Believe me I hope I'm wrong too azurnoir Aug 2014 #38
"...can and will be used against you..." (nt) hexola Aug 2014 #26
Alternative reality Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2014 #41
Kick before I sleep! sheshe2 Aug 2014 #18
G'nite, sweetie.. Cha Aug 2014 #27
Thank you Cha. This is some action that may help settle things down. I love the voter registration jwirr Aug 2014 #23
I know, jwirr.. it's Cha Aug 2014 #29
K&R ReRe Aug 2014 #25
VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE randys1 Aug 2014 #28
Mahalo for that, randys..VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE! Cha Aug 2014 #50
If you live in Hawaii I hate you... randys1 Aug 2014 #66
I live in Hawaii.. don't hate me! Cha Aug 2014 #88
Ferguson PD, St. Louis County PD, and Prosecutor Bob McCullough for the defense, your Honor alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #30
Exactly, alcibiades_mystery.. like they were a Cha Aug 2014 #33
LOVE the voter registration table! JimDandy Aug 2014 #31
Yes, "Register Your Voice With Your Vote" People of Ferguson, MO Cha Aug 2014 #35
TURN OFF YOUR CAMERAS!!!!! Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #34
Intrepid reporter, Wesley Lowery.. Cha Aug 2014 #39
Yeah, think they'll ever see that arrest report? Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #43
No, I don't think we'll ever see that attrest report if the arrogant incompetent Cha Aug 2014 #45
G.I. Joe the wannabe cop is lucky I wasn't there... Moostache Aug 2014 #70
I wouldn't just suspend the cop--I'd fire him. Louisiana1976 Aug 2014 #80
Suspend him without pay pending a full investigation and then justifiably fire him. Cha Aug 2014 #103
truest respect, I think. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2014 #36
I'm in total agreement, Blanche~ Such a Sweet poignant picture Cha Aug 2014 #40
Yes, vote out the idjits who set the (or lack of) rules for the PD there. freshwest Aug 2014 #42
Hopefully just in time for an election in November, fresh.. very important to Cha Aug 2014 #44
BTW, eyewitness says MB was 20 feet away when he was shot repeatedly: freshwest Aug 2014 #46
Oh Wow, fresh.. that is a revelation! I have not seen anyone interviewed and that Cha Aug 2014 #47
All that and he was *twenty* feet away. No possible way to claim self-defense, as the RWNJs claim. freshwest Aug 2014 #48
Agreed.. thank goodness for cell phones, twitter, and the internet, fresh! There's Cha Aug 2014 #49
It gets more damning than that... BronxBoy Aug 2014 #52
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #62
From the WaPo.. "U.S. AG Holder had criticized the use of force against demonstrators." Cha Aug 2014 #51
Thank Heaven JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #53
That's the feeling I have Gen~ It would be horrible it the FBI weren't there in Ferguson, MO. Cha Aug 2014 #54
K&R BumRushDaShow Aug 2014 #55
Yes, BRTS! I'm hoping this could be an impetus that makes it happen! Silver Lining. Cha Aug 2014 #56
It's easier to sign up new voters than to get them to the polls on election day. amandabeech Aug 2014 #82
I'm with you, amandabeech.. follow up follow up follow up! GOTV 2014! Cha Aug 2014 #89
Thanks, Cha. n/t amandabeech Aug 2014 #91
Damn! this is what gets me. Look at that street. Why couldn't you walk in that street? kelliekat44 Aug 2014 #57
exactly!! Quayblue Aug 2014 #65
Probably caused the cop a second in time to go around them Live and Learn Aug 2014 #77
Full of arrogance and power trippin.. :( Cha Aug 2014 #102
Excellent observation, kellie.. Michael's murder by cop didn't need to happen. :( Cha Aug 2014 #92
This is why we need "go pro" like cameras on LEO's person at all times. ileus Aug 2014 #61
Kicking! sheshe2 Aug 2014 #63
Good on them treestar Aug 2014 #68
Like these young women in this vid that freshwest provided, treestar.. Cha Aug 2014 #93
good Liberal_in_LA Aug 2014 #69
I think so, LinLA.. "AG Holder orders extra autopsy by feds "Due to the extraordinary circumstances Cha Aug 2014 #94
Excellent post. K&R Louisiana1976 Aug 2014 #81
Mahalo, Louisiana1976~ Cha Aug 2014 #95
Makes me think the FBI isn't buying.... dawnie51 Aug 2014 #83
No, dawnie, they're not.. :( Cha Aug 2014 #96
Y'all fergie pd is a klan operation underthematrix Aug 2014 #84
I don't doubt that for a second MuttLikeMe Aug 2014 #85
I would not be shocked nor suprised uponit7771 Aug 2014 #90
Ya think!.. Cha Aug 2014 #97
That voter registration table is crucial. riqster Aug 2014 #86
It is so Crucial, riqster! Here's to hoping this very vital aspect to change is followed through.. Cha Aug 2014 #98
From your lips to the Gods' ears, Cha! riqster Aug 2014 #104
Amen! Cha Aug 2014 #108
This whole mess has me nearly distraught IrishAyes Aug 2014 #99
I know, IrishAyes.. :( And, that's what I had Cha Aug 2014 #100
DOJ told that sheriff not to release the store robbery tapes, but he did it anyway. IrishAyes Aug 2014 #109
I did not know the DOJ asked the FPD Chief not to release the tapes.. Cha Aug 2014 #110
You may already know the results of yesterday's Michael Brown autopsy: IrishAyes Aug 2014 #113
Only one flaw in this plan, how many have been disenfranchised already? See this: freshwest Aug 2014 #111
Thank you for those stats, fresh.. :( Wow.. Cha Aug 2014 #112
Not saying, though, that other household members can't vote. They must. Sanders says he is afraid freshwest Aug 2014 #114
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
1. Good idea setting up voter registration tables.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 10:05 PM
Aug 2014

Maybe they can get some more color in their elected officials. The school board looks like a pack of plantation overseers.

Cha

(297,220 posts)
3. Excellent Action, brave! They're doing something positive
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 10:09 PM
Aug 2014

to promote Hope and Change in Ferguson, MO!

"Maybe they can get some more color in their elected officials. The school board looks like a pack of plantation overseers."

I hear ya..

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
19. They could do THAT by having the Democrats back a local from the neighborhood....
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 11:02 PM
Aug 2014

You know,...someone that's a born community organizer.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
72. I thought I already had
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 03:12 PM
Aug 2014

What if I said, "the protesters in Ferguson look like a bunch of gangbanging thugs?"

You would screech racism.

But you have no qualms saying a group of white people in Ferguson look like "a bunch of plantation owners."

HOPE IT HELPS!

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
73. I said the school board looks like a bunch of overseers.
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 03:24 PM
Aug 2014

Town almost 70 percent black, school board 0 percent black.

So, you think the entire group of protestors look like a bunch of gang-banging thugs? I bet you don't even care about the implications of that nasty statement you just made. I just saw some similar comments on red state. And conservative cave. Tobasco.

So, even the preachers, the politicians, the children, the students, all gang-banging thugs? I want you to know, that what you said was just as bad as you hoped. It really does not show you in a good light.

Honestly, this is the type of stuff that allows this generational madness to continue. I bet you are much older than i am. I bet you remember all sorts of things like this being said by Reagan and the right wing. How unfortunate that stuff like this is still being spread by those like you

I hope you feel very, very, proud and enlightened. I mean, you are just so dignified and better than. You deserve a medal for being soooo much better that the entire town of Ferguson. Hold your proud head up high, and look down on those 'gangbangers and thugs', i'm sure looking down on them will make you feel better and better as you finish your navigation through life.

I would alert on your post, but it was so disgusting, I'll let someone else have a go at it. I threw up half way through and reminded myself that the future will look better for us as the nation gets browner.

robbob

(3,529 posts)
76. Um, they wrote "What if i said...."
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 03:30 PM
Aug 2014

To try and make some kind of point, and you turned that into them actually saying it.

"So you think the entire group of protesters look like gang banging thugs?"

No, that is not what they said at all.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
78. That's a cop out.
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 03:39 PM
Aug 2014

And you know it. Tabasco can do self defense. You are absolved from having to 'explain' for that poster. Unless you have been retained for your services.

Do you think that a 0% rate of Blacks on the school board of a majority black town sounds normal?
Or does it seem strange to you? I find it telling that they set up a registration drive to fix that. So, obviously the town sees it as a problem. The black people there are already getting judged for their skin color by the people in authority positions. Like the cops. The statistics show racial profiling is prevalent. They wrote a law about it in the state.

Autumn

(45,082 posts)
79. I was a leave on the jury. You said "what if" bravnak said 'looks like"
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 03:40 PM
Aug 2014

and then got offended and said "So, you think the entire group of protestors look like a bunch of gang-banging thugs?"

Results


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Gangbanging thugs is a racist stereotype. White protestors don't get called gangbanging thugs. They get called protestors. Not cool. Is this really a democratic site? It's looking worse every day. Gangbanging thugs. Someone has obviously been believing the hype, and spreading it. Now DU needs to not help spread these stereotypes. Please hide this post.

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Explanation: No I won't hide this. Just in case you didn't see it before you alerted bravenak did indeed post that and cha just loves the shit out of it because it stirs shit and that is what bravnak does.

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cleduc

(653 posts)
105. The stats shocked me
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 09:23 PM
Aug 2014

(for those who hadn't seen them):

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/ferguson-lack-diversity-goes-way-beyond-its-cops

Though two in three Ferguson residents are black, the city government is almost entirely white.


and their elected school board is also almost entirely white

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-missouri-st-louis-police-shooting-teen-20140811-story.html#page=1
Of the 53 commissioned officers on the police force, three are black, said Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson.


67% of Ferguson citizens are black. 5.6% of Ferguson officers are black.

And from that:
Blacks in Ferguson are twice as likely to be stopped by police as whites, according to an annual report on racial profiling by the Missouri attorney general.

I may not have a big problem with that because there are twice as many blacks as white in Ferguson (I'd have to review the context of those stats).

But here, we seem to have a problem:
Last year, 93% of arrests following car stops in Ferguson were of blacks. Ninety-two percent of searches and 80% of car stops involved blacks, the report said.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
2. I sure hope the animal that did this faces a jury
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 10:06 PM
Aug 2014

and if found guilty given life at hard labor, preferably making little bitty rocks out of great big rocks.

Cha

(297,220 posts)
6. In Hopes of Justice being
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 10:13 PM
Aug 2014

Served, madokie~ And, the lies the Ferguson Police are making up to save themselves to be Exposed for what they are.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
8. The lies are being exposed for what they are right now
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 10:16 PM
Aug 2014

thanks to the Internet we do have tools and a voice to back it up with.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
64. Yes paying attention is where its at
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 10:54 AM
Aug 2014

I started paying attention to what goes on around me back in june of '69 when I got incountry VN. Been paying attention ever since.

CountAllVotes

(20,870 posts)
101. +1,000
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 08:05 PM
Aug 2014

Only the human species seems to enjoy the sport of killing another human being. Aren't we a unique species?



Response to madokie (Reply #2)

sheshe2

(83,758 posts)
4. Yes!
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 10:09 PM
Aug 2014
Voter Registration Table is set up in Freguson in front of the makeshift memorial where Michael Brown was killed..


It's time to stand up and be counted. Sign Up! Vote! Be Heard! Your voice!

Great Op Cha! Thank you.

Response to sheshe2 (Reply #4)

Warpy

(111,257 posts)
12. They pretty much just got done here in NM
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 10:26 PM
Aug 2014

No news about fired bad cops, just a bunch of administrative changes were all they left behind.

Let's hope it works. They'd gotten into a rut of shooting because it was easier than negotiating.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
17. Been checking the New Mexico Group for news about the DoJ findings and results but have
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 10:59 PM
Aug 2014

found nothing about the Albuquerque Police Department's resolution.

Thanks for the news, Warpy.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
13. seems that every piece of evdence collected every eye witness account taken is being used by police
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 10:33 PM
Aug 2014

to construct their own alternative reality

what authorities are there for the people of Ferguson to trust?

voter registration is a start to changing that

Cha

(297,220 posts)
15. The police are making up shit.. hopefully this will be taken
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 10:40 PM
Aug 2014

out of their hands.

And, yes Voting is an excellent start to Change, azunoir.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
22. I really don't mean to be pessimistic but taken out of the polices hands by who?
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 11:06 PM
Aug 2014

who can be trusted here?
Maybe I've seen this sort of sh^t for way too long now-starting in the late 1980's-early 1990's -the police did not have the toys but they had the tactics -I'm talking about Minneapolis here where in North side of the city where I lived the police in supposed a fight against crack and gangs would simply knock down suspected crack houses with a front end loader (their version of knocking on the door)



or cordon off either end of a 2 block stretch of residential streets and swarm the area-anyone who happened to be outside was down on ground and cuffed-didn't matter if you were 7 or 70 , people were killed as a result of erroneous raids and use of flash bangs and what was done? not a damned thing

Cha

(297,220 posts)
24. That's okay.. you're drawing from your experience.. I just
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 11:13 PM
Aug 2014

have a more optimistic hope that Justice will be served for Michael Brown and to the Police Dept of Ferguson, MO. I took what the OP stated to heart.

"At the onset of our federal civil rights investigation, the Attorney General of the United States promised a thorough and complete investigation into the shooting death of Michael Brown. That investigation is proceeding. We can confirm that FBI agents, working together with attorneys from the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division and US Attorney’s Office, have already conducted several interviews of witnesses on the scene at the time of the shooting. Over the next several days, teams of FBI agents will be canvassing the neighborhood where the shooting took place to identify any individuals who may have information related to the shooting and have not yet come forward. We ask for the public’s cooperation and patience, and again urge anyone with information related to the shooting to contact the FBI. The FBI can be reached at (800) CALL-FBI, option 4."

I get it that you don't think so.. I hope you're wrong.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
23. Thank you Cha. This is some action that may help settle things down. I love the voter registration
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 11:13 PM
Aug 2014

booth. In honor of Mike Brown.

Cha

(297,220 posts)
29. I know, jwirr.. it's
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 11:30 PM
Aug 2014

a poignant tribute to Michael Brown that could very well change their future for the good~

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
25. K&R
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 11:13 PM
Aug 2014

Thank you, Cha! And they need to put those pop-up canopies all over town and register voters. They could really start to turn things around in that town if they would just get the vote out this fall.

Cha

(297,220 posts)
88. I live in Hawaii.. don't hate me!
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 05:53 PM
Aug 2014

Aloha, randys.. believe me I paid my dues and am still paying them.

I miss my friends in New York but my son lives here so it made sense to retire here. I'm glad you had such an awesome time when you visited!

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
30. Ferguson PD, St. Louis County PD, and Prosecutor Bob McCullough for the defense, your Honor
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 11:31 PM
Aug 2014

The whole think stinks to high heaven.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
34. TURN OFF YOUR CAMERAS!!!!!
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 11:57 PM
Aug 2014

COME ON LETS GO LETS GO LETS GO SHUT THAT CAMERA OFF LETS GO TIME TO GO LETS GO LETS GO TURN OFF YOUR CAMERA NOW YOU NEED TO STOP FILMING LETS GO


Cha

(297,220 posts)
39. Intrepid reporter, Wesley Lowery..
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 12:35 AM
Aug 2014
Mike Allen Has Some Fact-Free Smarm-Thoughts For Wesley Lowery

by Jason Linkins

In today's Politico Playbook -- presented by Chevron, Chevron is awesome, please let us know, Chevron, if there's any pending legislation we can help you with, we are always here to help -- Mike Allen takes a gratuitous pot-shot at Wesley Lowery. Lowery is a reporter who has been actively covering the protests in Ferguson, Missouri, on the front lines, as opposed to waiting to hear what Chevron thinks about them and then typing it up, for Chevron.

snip//

3. Wesley Lowery was not "amid a riot" at the time he was arrested. He was "amid" a McDonald's. For some, McDonald's is a "riot of flavor," or a "riot of savings," or a "riot of coming gastrointestinal distress." But there was no other "riot" occurring. Lowery was charging his phone at a McDonald's. There wasn't a riot inside the McDonald's nor was there one outside it. This is not in dispute. Had there been a nearby riot, Lowery would have said, "Hey, I'd better go cover this riot, for the Washington Post."

More interesting funny stuff directed at Mike Allen @ Politico..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/15/mike-allen-wesley-lowery_n_5682181.html

thanks for the Vid and prompting me to find this, Warren DeMontague.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
43. Yeah, think they'll ever see that arrest report?
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 12:57 AM
Aug 2014

I don't.

Nor do I suspect those cops will ever acknowledge that people have the right to keep their cameras on. 1st Amendment be damned.

Thanks for the link, BTW.

Cha

(297,220 posts)
45. No, I don't think we'll ever see that attrest report if the arrogant incompetent
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 01:12 AM
Aug 2014

jack boots at the Ferguson PD have anything to say about it..

You're welcome, WDM.. good take down of Mike Allen!

"Slack and Lowery basically committed the same sin, in Allen's eyes, which was questioning entrenched power. Slack put a quote from a watchdog agency in the lede of a story that went on to demonstrate that the watchdog agency was correct. Lowery questioned the police's justification for rousting him from a McDonald's. These are big no-no's in Allen's world, because if you do that enough, you won't have sponsors to underwrite your tip-sheet of yesterday's stories."


Moostache

(9,895 posts)
70. G.I. Joe the wannabe cop is lucky I wasn't there...
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 12:24 PM
Aug 2014

My first question would have been "are you the manager of this establishment?"
My second act would have been to sit down on the floor in non-violent protest and force him to carry me out of the OPEN business I was patronizing.
My third question would have been for his badge number, name and rank.

You cannot show up in a private business, armed, without credentials and ID visible. The police are NOT the Republican Guard from Saddam's Iraq or the Nazi Gestapo quite yet...we still have laws (allegedly).

I seriously hope that particular officer is suspended for his completely illegal and prejudicial conduct that makes the entire police profession look bad. If I were a cop from a neighboring district, I would be giving his house the civilian equivalent of the military "Code Red" or barrack justice just to make sure he gets the point...

Cha

(297,220 posts)
44. Hopefully just in time for an election in November, fresh.. very important to
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 12:58 AM
Aug 2014

register to Vote as we around here all know!

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
46. BTW, eyewitness says MB was 20 feet away when he was shot repeatedly:
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 02:32 AM
Aug 2014


Sorry if it's been posted before, I haven't seen it.

Witness said saw scuffle and positions of persons in the incident. MB was shot while fleeing. Officer was not in danger and this cannot be a justifiable shooting.

Cha

(297,220 posts)
47. Oh Wow, fresh.. that is a revelation! I have not seen anyone interviewed and that
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 02:56 AM
Aug 2014

that made me cry all over again. Those sweet girls make excellent witnesses.. I've heard this and now I see for myself.

Thank you so much for this vid.. they said "the police were saying Michael Brown was in the car"?! I hadn't heard that either but there's so much swirling around. Of course, Tiffany Mitchell and Piaget Crenshaw said he was outside the car. Very vivid description they gave.. and ultimately he was shot and then again.. and again with his hands in the air.

And, the police removed the bullet from the building where Darren Wilson was shooting wildly. That better go into the report.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
48. All that and he was *twenty* feet away. No possible way to claim self-defense, as the RWNJs claim.
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 03:22 AM
Aug 2014

People in the community know what happened. You can't shoot a person who is twenty feet away and fleeing and say you were afraid for you life.

No law allows a cop to shoot someone at a distance, unless they are shooting first. His hands were up, he wasn't close and he was unarmed.

It would take a hell of a lot to contradict the community's story and to convince a jury that the cop should get off. The PD needs to be under the control of the DOJ.

Cha

(297,220 posts)
49. Agreed.. thank goodness for cell phones, twitter, and the internet, fresh! There's
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 03:26 AM
Aug 2014

some hope for justice.. sometimes there is.

BronxBoy

(2,286 posts)
52. It gets more damning than that...
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 06:27 AM
Aug 2014

Someone posted raw video of the scene immediately after the shooting. Not only did people say that he had his hands up but also that he was shot while on the ground. Several people reported hearing multiple shots followed by a pause followed by more shots

Amazing that we don't have a report yet and that charges have not been brought

Video is 1st response in this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5397761

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Cha

(297,220 posts)
51. From the WaPo.. "U.S. AG Holder had criticized the use of force against demonstrators."
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 06:26 AM
Aug 2014
"U.S. Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. had criticized the use of force against demonstrators, and it was unclear Saturday how federal officials — who are also monitoring a state investigation of Brown’s death — would react to Nixon’s curfew."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ferguson-erupts-in-fresh-protests-looting-after-police-link-michael-brown-to-robbery/2014/08/16/dd4821c2-2559-11e4-958c-268a320a60ce_story.html?hpid=z1

I bet that went over well with the FPD.

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
53. Thank Heaven
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 06:38 AM
Aug 2014

I have had good experiences with the FBI - they take a measured, thorough, and slow approach to an investigation. It will take some time, but what they bring to the table will be thorough. Those agents handing out those cards will hopefully bring peace of mind to that community that someone is policing the police.

Cha

(297,220 posts)
54. That's the feeling I have Gen~ It would be horrible it the FBI weren't there in Ferguson, MO.
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 06:48 AM
Aug 2014

And, the FPD must be livid to be having the FBI investigate them even though they brought it on themselves.

BumRushDaShow

(128,977 posts)
55. K&R
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 07:13 AM
Aug 2014

Voter registration and GOTV for this and tens of thousands of similar communities across America, needs to continue!

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
82. It's easier to sign up new voters than to get them to the polls on election day.
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 03:46 PM
Aug 2014

My best wishes to the local Dems on doing BOTH those jobs.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
57. Damn! this is what gets me. Look at that street. Why couldn't you walk in that street?
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 07:19 AM
Aug 2014

What traffic would you be blocking? That is what the record shows as the reason for the encounter with Brown...he was walking in the street and not on the sidewalk. That in itself is worth the charge of provoking and incident. This is core to showing what black residents anywhere have to put up with..."Walking while black." Since the cop stopping didn't know anything about an alleged "strong-arm robbery" why would he stop Brown and his friend from walking in this street near their home?

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
77. Probably caused the cop a second in time to go around them
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 03:34 PM
Aug 2014

which pissed him off and led to the confrontation.

Cha

(297,220 posts)
94. I think so, LinLA.. "AG Holder orders extra autopsy by feds "Due to the extraordinary circumstances
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 06:31 PM
Aug 2014

Lynn Sweet @lynnsweet
Follow
Breaking: AG Holder orders extra autopsy by feds "Due to the extraordinary circumstances" of #Ferguson case and request of Brown family,

5:06 AM - 17 Aug 2014 221 Retweets 56 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/08/17/yes-ferguson-pd-the-world-is-watching/

Cha

(297,220 posts)
96. No, dawnie, they're not.. :(
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 07:16 PM
Aug 2014

Lynn Sweet @lynnsweet
Follow
Breaking: AG Holder orders extra autopsy by feds "Due to the extraordinary circumstances" of #Ferguson case and request of Brown family,

5:06 AM - 17 Aug 2014 221 Retweets 56 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/08/17/yes-ferguson-pd-the-world-is-watching/

riqster

(13,986 posts)
86. That voter registration table is crucial.
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 05:39 PM
Aug 2014

Per their councilwoman, the black community is hugely disenfranchised at the polls. GOTV can increase their representation and influence.

Cha

(297,220 posts)
98. It is so Crucial, riqster! Here's to hoping this very vital aspect to change is followed through..
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 07:32 PM
Aug 2014

not only in Ferguson, MO.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
99. This whole mess has me nearly distraught
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 07:46 PM
Aug 2014

But I really feel better after your OP and encouraged by what the good folks of Ferguson are doing to improve things.

Cha

(297,220 posts)
100. I know, IrishAyes.. :( And, that's what I had
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 08:01 PM
Aug 2014

in mind when I posted it..

Lynn Sweet @lynnsweet
Follow
Breaking: AG Holder orders extra autopsy by feds "Due to the extraordinary circumstances" of #Ferguson case and request of Brown family,

5:06 AM - 17 Aug 2014 221 Retweets 56 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/08/17/yes-ferguson-pd-the-world-is-watching/

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
109. DOJ told that sheriff not to release the store robbery tapes, but he did it anyway.
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 11:13 PM
Aug 2014

As if to say, the kid was a criminal so it was okay to murder him when he turned around and gave up with his hands in the air, got down on his knees and begged for his life. First the sheriff said the officer didn't know about the robbery - as if that mattered with the sheriff stealing a LIFE! - and then the sheriff said the officer did know - as if that should influence whether to murder someone who's clearly surrendering. No wonder people were in such a rage - not to mention all the heavy military tactics being used whether people were peaceful or not.

I signed a petition for a law requiring that police wear lapel cams. That reportedly reduces officer shootings somewhere around 30% when they know what they do will be recorded. Which leads me to believe possibly 30% of police shootings are NOT justified.

This was our Tienneman Square.

Cha

(297,220 posts)
110. I did not know the DOJ asked the FPD Chief not to release the tapes..
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 11:28 PM
Aug 2014

thanks for that. That should only make the DOJ more determined that FPD will not get away with ANYTHING.

Wow, they're going all KKK Bundy ranch on everybody!

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
113. You may already know the results of yesterday's Michael Brown autopsy:
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 07:24 PM
Aug 2014

At least 6 shots, only the last 2 fatal to the top of his head when he was surrendering and had his head down. And some POS teabaggers claiming he could've been rushing the cop with his head down. So really, who does that when they're unarmed and have already taken four close range shots? Not unless they're high on PCP, they don't. No evidence of that as yet and no reason to expect it either.

Now on the CBS evening news Scott Pelley's talking about a Border Patrol official who was reassigned for questioning the validity of at least SEVEN agent kills where people were shot in the back or side while trying to flee. It's open season out there and has been for years. But soooo many claim they have no idea what gets into these minorities. Wait until they're on the receiving end - they won't like it. And sooner or later the MIC will come for them, too. They just think (falsely) right now that the establishment will always be on their side. Not when the herd needs to be culled.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
111. Only one flaw in this plan, how many have been disenfranchised already? See this:
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 03:28 PM
Aug 2014
Ferguson. In 2013 the town issued over 24,000 arrest warrants..

In a town with 21,000 people... Yes you saw those numbers right.

“Despite Ferguson’s relative poverty, fines and court fees comprise the second largest source of revenue for the city, a total of 2,635,400,” according to the ArchCity Defenders report. And in 2013, the Ferguson Municipal Court issued 24,532 arrest warrants and 12,018 cases, “or about 3 warrants and 1.5 cases per household.”

The death of Michael Brown was just the straw. The residents of Ferguson have had enough, and the only people I can see blaming them are.. yes, privileged white people.


http://www.newsweek.com/ferguson-profiling-police-courts-shooting-264744

to Something Fishy:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5404667

This is the daily violence visited upon Ferguson that does not make the news until they are fed up as they are now.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
114. Not saying, though, that other household members can't vote. They must. Sanders says he is afraid
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 08:28 PM
Aug 2014
that those most affected this year won't vote. I think the unjust status quo through the 'criminal' justice system in Ferguson should get people to vote them out. It cost MB his life.

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