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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDylan Ratigan is a whiny Fox news anchor that is playing on MSNBC
He constantly blames the president. He talks about how corrupt the government is with no discernment between Democrats and Republicans and he has even included the president in being corrupt. He needs to do that to hawk his stupid book "greedy bastards" so no matter what the subject or what the facts he always says the president is wrong and/or bad.
He has no business having a show on MSNBC. He isn't even objective. He sounds like a fox whore.
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)PB
Kahuna
(27,311 posts)brain dead, obtuse, asshole.
vaberella
(24,634 posts)Kahuna
(27,311 posts)glib and clueless following.
vaberella
(24,634 posts)That's how he rolls. I don't even know why liberals generally tune in. He's totally anti-government and finds it worthless.
RevStPatrick
(2,208 posts)It is a money-making machine, just like Fox.
They figured that there was a niche that was not being exploited elsewhere, and they devote a few hours here and there to attracting "liberal" eyeballs to their advertisements.
gateley
(62,683 posts)even if it runs against what many of us think, than "hosts" that just prattle off the company propaganda. It's good to hear someone critical of the President in that venue, I think. We can make up our own minds whether or not we think he's right, but don't silence him!
Whisp
(24,096 posts)Used to bug my ass a while ago but I think it's good to hear stuff you don't always agree with. And he doesn't do it the Fox way at all, imho - he's quite intelligent and focuses on the overall picture of corruption and heinous things humans have always done. I don't think he or anyone can expect the President to overturn thousands of years of how things work on the forsaken planet and when he blames Obama for this kind of thing - that's the part I have to really disagree with him with. Why people think we can just magically teleport to this wonderful, fair existence in an instant. That one man can change the whole course of history of how badly we treat each other and how greedy and ugly some people are.
Raine
(30,540 posts)I'm a Democrat, I can handle hearing both sides.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)The level of corruption, regardless of party, is real.
Maraya1969
(22,460 posts)Period.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)And I did not say any individual person is, but that THE SYSTEM is.
Learn to read, please.
The US is far more corrupt than people would like to think.
Oh forgot the after GOP and paygo schemes.
RKP5637
(67,086 posts)US are in denial. I completely agree with you. "The US is far more corrupt than people would like to think."
Kahuna
(27,311 posts)do most Americans KNOW it's corrupt, but they have known so for many years. It's not that we accept the corruption. We simply acknowledge that it is what it is, and until voters AND non-voters become more engaged in politics and how it affects everything in our lives, it will remain corrupt. Obama would change it if he could, but he cannot do it alone. When he needed our help in 2010, we failed him and the country.
Dylan is a libertarian, as has been pointed out. His attacks on the president are juvenile, if not totally disingenuous.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)But your post is a perfect example of the team mentality. It is systemic and those who benefit rarely want to change it. The Guilded age took a few massive scandals, that shockingly involved both parties.
Oh by the way I bet most Americans believe the myth that we're not that corrupt...I mean we're special and chosen and shit.
Kahuna
(27,311 posts)there are two teams running the show, and I'm on the side of the good guys. I'm not as interested in tearing my country or party down as you may be.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Just don't accuse Republicans of putting party before country. You are doing the same.
I know there are INDIVIDUALS who may do that, but at this time both parties are corrupt, and citizens united exacerbated the problem by orders of magnitude. At least your neighbors to the south blame politicians for the corruption and don't play these stupid manichean names.
By the way patriots put the country ahead of parties.
RKP5637
(67,086 posts)people Obama is not king. He can't wave a wand and make things suddenly happen. Frankly, I'm amazed at how well he has done with these obstacles.
Too many people take things for granted, that the US will just chug along and things will be OK. I even have trouble getting some people to vote I know, because they think the country will just chug along. I got them to vote for Obama in 2008, and I will do that again for 2012.
The turning of backs on Obama and the dems in 2010 was stupid, and horrific damage was done.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)theis the sports mentality, GO TEAM! It means only the other side is capable of doing that.
We see this mentality in many posts that are not even distantly related to politics. Surprise, our mirror site does the same thing substituting democrat for reoublican.
Until people step away from team sports....
RKP5637
(67,086 posts)to unite the country. Rather than focusing on problems and intelligent solutions often the rhetoric is ripping the other person/group. Deepak Chopra was talking about this on Joe Scarborough's show this week and made considerable sense IMO.
Here's a link to that segment of the show.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/vp/46963409#46963409
sad sally
(2,627 posts)corrupt system in this country. Some of Ratigan's criticism of the President was his decision to join the super pac party even though he supposedly didn't want to but was forced to in order to be competitive.
Once we assuage our conscience by calling something a necessary evil, it begins to look more and more necessary and less and less evil. -Sydney J. Harris, journalist (1917-1986)
Kahuna
(27,311 posts)Each and every day, rat boy will find something stupid to pin on the president.
Kahuna
(27,311 posts)Period.
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)sorry... they represent corporate America more than most who voted.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)Spazito
(50,151 posts)He's a repub/libertarian but gets all snarly if anyone even says he leans right and has an ego that could compete with that of Gingrich or Trump and he sounds like them all too often as well, imo.
vaberella
(24,634 posts)Kahuna
(27,311 posts)The most irritating woman on earth.
provis99
(13,062 posts)or maybe not...
quinnox
(20,600 posts)I don't care what his politics are, he sounded like he was on speed or some drug talking so fast and getting so agitated. Didn't know who he was before, I don't watch MSNBC, but dude needs to calm down.
abolugi
(417 posts)I turn the channel when he comes on.
I don't think I've ever seen him happy about anything.
I don't have the time or energy to process that much anger!
Kahuna
(27,311 posts)he alone just discovered greed and corruption. Newsflash Dylan! This shit has been going on since the beginning of time. You didn't discover anything that everybody in the country didn't already know, so chill.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,221 posts):edited for missing word:
FarLeftFist
(6,161 posts)earthside
(6,960 posts)But if all you are looking for is a Democratic Party, Obama hack cheerleader ... nope, Dylan Ratigan is not for you.
Furthermore, you couldn't be more blind if you think that Democrats are just perfect and aren't part of the insider Washington, D.C. establishment -- lots of the are. And even more Repuglicans are.
Ratigan calls them all out.
He is very independent minded -- which is why he wouldn't last 30 minutes on FoxPAC-TV.
Really, I don't understand why so many people just want to hear that their side is good and the other side is bad. Is it really that difficult to hear a variety of viewpoints and think on your own .... and then make up your mind? We know Repuglicans and Teabaggers are like that -- heaven help us if liberals and progressives start getting that doctrinaire.
Po_d Mainiac
(4,183 posts)brentspeak
(18,290 posts)As his signing of the "JOBS" Act today demonstrates.
Thank goodness we still have some TV commentators out there who aren't Wall St lapdogs.
girl gone mad
(20,634 posts)all of your criticisms are ad hominem, and not even factual ad hominem at that.
RKP5637
(67,086 posts)MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)All that bullshit ages a person.
provis99
(13,062 posts)some people don't age well; but on the other hand, why does 45 year old Don Lemon of CNN look like a 25 year old kid?
Damn, he looks goooooooodddddddddddd.
As to Dylan R, I don't watch him at all. He blames to blame and if he is a Libertarian (sp?), their only concern is for self and self-family and eff everyone else. Hate what you want about the Dems and Pres O but at least they do care a little bit more than the "Rs" who also care for self and eff everyone else.
Hmmmmm, I remember the 2010 elections wherein majority of the Rs/Libertarian likes (Ron Paul) was going to help and work on a better ecomony for the American people. I'm still waiting.
libinnyandia
(1,374 posts)Raine
(30,540 posts)on MSNBC just like the viewers of Faux, than you're always reasured that there is no opposing viewpoint.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,221 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)MSNBC has a show hosted by a Republican for several hours every morning. It then has several opinion shows by Democratic hosts (who are not journalists; they are in the infotainment business). It then provides regular news. MSNBC is a mixture.
CNN is the most neutral.
Fox is owned by the Republican Party, so to speak.
bec
(107 posts)I don't take offense to anything he said in that clip, because he is absolutely right.
jp11
(2,104 posts)Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)While they do have some liberal hosts, that's more than countered by Joe Scarbrough for three honkin' hours every morning. Looked at from the outside (the UK in this case): Fox is ultraright-fringe, CNN is centre-right and MSNBC is centreist. One could call Current a liberal network although that depends a lot on where they go in the wake of KO's firing.
ecstatic
(32,648 posts)I'm wondering who he knows at NBC because this is his second gig with the network despite the fact that he's incoherent and generally unwatchable. And I think he's lying about his age too. 39 with a head full of grey hair?
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)as much as how many viewers he brings.He is MSNBC's highest rated non prime time show.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,221 posts)Where'd you get that information?
Tarheel_Dem
(31,221 posts)"· MSNBC is #1 in delivering African American total viewers among cable news channels for the 9th straight quarter in Monday Sunday Primetime."
"· NewsNation with Tamron Hall at 2 p.m. grew 21% in total viewers compared to1Q11, posting the only growth by a cable news program in the hour."
· PoliticsNation with Al Sharpton at 6 p.m. ranked #2 among total viewers (776,000 vs. 459,000) and in A25-54 for the 2nd straight quarter, topping CNN by 36% (173,000 vs. 127,000). PoliticsNation is up 13% with A25-54 from 1Q11, the only cable news program to post growth in the hour and up 18% with total viewers from 1Q11, more growth than all other cable news programs in the hour combined. CNNs John King USA had the lowest total viewer delivery in the time period since 3Q03 and is down 41% in A25-54 and 32% in total viewers compared to 1Q11.
http://insidecablenews.wordpress.com/2012/03/27/q1-2012-msnbcs-numbers/#more-18157
The 6pmET hour of programming now Al Sharptons PoliticsNation is up +32% in Total Viewers and up +18% in A25-54 viewers compared to March 2011, when the hour was hosted by Cenk Uygur.
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/march-q1-2012-ratings-msnbc-reclaims-second-place-in-cable-news_b118226
Melissa Harris-Perry from 10a-noon (From Feb 18-March 25) ranked #1 among A18-34 ......· MSNBC Longform Weekend Prime (Sa/Su 7p-2a) ranked #1 in A25-54 for the 8th consecutive quarter and #1 with younger viewers A18-34 for the 26th quarter.
http://insidecablenews.wordpress.com/2012/03/27/q1-2012-msnbcs-numbers/#more-18157
The good news is that a lot more people are seeking out the positive as opposed to the constant negative drumbeat on offer at Fox and CNN.
Maraya1969
(22,460 posts)I think I'll got check your link out.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,221 posts)where is the data that shows Dylan as the #1 MSNBC daytime show? I can't seem to find that.
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Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)He can go fuck himself.
Nice to see he has his defenders here, though.