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Maraya1969

(22,460 posts)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:46 PM Apr 2012

Dylan Ratigan is a whiny Fox news anchor that is playing on MSNBC

He constantly blames the president. He talks about how corrupt the government is with no discernment between Democrats and Republicans and he has even included the president in being corrupt. He needs to do that to hawk his stupid book "greedy bastards" so no matter what the subject or what the facts he always says the president is wrong and/or bad.

He has no business having a show on MSNBC. He isn't even objective. He sounds like a fox whore.

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Dylan Ratigan is a whiny Fox news anchor that is playing on MSNBC (Original Post) Maraya1969 Apr 2012 OP
. Go Vols Apr 2012 #1
That's four and a half minutes of truth, right there. +1 nt Poll_Blind Apr 2012 #12
I hate him. Every thing you state is true. He is a glib, Kahuna Apr 2012 #2
Yup yup, but he thinks what he says is relevant. n/t vaberella Apr 2012 #4
Yup. His disingenuous prattle is like manna to his likewise Kahuna Apr 2012 #10
Ratigan is not a liberal. He's a Libertarian. vaberella Apr 2012 #3
And MSNBC is not a "liberal network" RevStPatrick Apr 2012 #44
I understand your charge, but I think I'd rather have someone like Dylan who says what he thinks gateley Apr 2012 #5
I don't mind Ratigan now. Whisp Apr 2012 #14
I agree. I don't need someone who only tells me what I want to hear ... that's the repug way ... Raine Apr 2012 #40
I hate to point this out nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #6
I do not believe President Obama is corrupt. Maraya1969 Apr 2012 #7
But play for pay schemes are just a GOP thing nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #11
All the time this becomes more and more clear to me. Many in the RKP5637 Apr 2012 #15
Did you really just discover how corrupt the "system" is? I'd be willing to bet that not only Kahuna Apr 2012 #19
I hate to point this out nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #21
GUILTY! I'm on Team Obama and proud of it. In case you haven't noticed.. Kahuna Apr 2012 #24
I am interested in the country nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #27
No, not at all, but during the Bush administration it really became evident. I tell RKP5637 Apr 2012 #26
... Kahuna Apr 2012 #30
Yep! RKP5637 Apr 2012 #33
The main problem is nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #20
Yep!!! And it's always win/lose, not win/win ... and win/lose does little RKP5637 Apr 2012 #32
The massive amounts of money in politics certainly has contributed to the sad sally Apr 2012 #22
Oh please. Dylan was hating on the president long before the super pac issue.. Kahuna Apr 2012 #31
Maraya1969, You Are Correct!!! Our president is a good and honorable man... Kahuna Apr 2012 #34
both parties and Obama are corrupt fascisthunter Apr 2012 #61
Which is why I so not watch him. jwirr Apr 2012 #8
I agree, I mute my volume on my computer while he is on... Spazito Apr 2012 #9
May I just point out that Toure irritates me. n/t vaberella Apr 2012 #13
He irritates me too. He is just as glib and useless. But that Imogen!! Kahuna Apr 2012 #18
yes, but he does have the World's Greatest Haircut! provis99 Apr 2012 #16
jesus, watching that posted clip was enough quinnox Apr 2012 #17
He is much too negative abolugi Apr 2012 #23
His rants are juvenile. How olds is he, like 50? He acts like Kahuna Apr 2012 #28
I wouldn't worry too much about it. How long before he winds up @ Current competing with Cenk? Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #46
Can't they replace Ratigan with Krystal Ball instead? And one of Tweety's re-broadcast with MHP? FarLeftFist Apr 2012 #25
You couldn't be more wrong. earthside Apr 2012 #29
wrong on all counts Po_d Mainiac Apr 2012 #35
Tough. Obama is only slightly less crooked than the the Repubs brentspeak Apr 2012 #36
Worth noting.. girl gone mad Apr 2012 #37
I certainly agreed with what I saw as the bottom line, "Get the money out of politics!" n/t RKP5637 Apr 2012 #38
He's 39 and he looks older than me… I'm fifty years old! MrScorpio Apr 2012 #39
yeah, I've noticed that too. provis99 Apr 2012 #45
45? Iliyah Apr 2012 #49
I don't care for Matt Miller too much either. libinnyandia Apr 2012 #41
Yeah best to never hear an opposing viewpoint Raine Apr 2012 #42
Shut him off! Don't feed his ratings. Perhaps he can take KO's spot at Current? Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #43
MSNBC is not a Democratic Party network. It is not Fox. Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #47
I like Dylan bec Apr 2012 #48
Don't watch him then. jp11 Apr 2012 #50
MSNBC is not a liberal network Prophet 451 Apr 2012 #51
I don't think he has talent ecstatic Apr 2012 #52
I dont think its who he knows Go Vols Apr 2012 #53
"MSNBC's highest rated non prime time show." Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #54
Maraya, I thought this was interesting. MSNBC has hit on a winning formula. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #55
Good to hear that. I wonder how his show is doing. Maraya1969 Apr 2012 #56
His ratings are up quite significantly, but as I asked the poster upthread..... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author Maraya1969 Apr 2012 #57
Dylan Ratigan is a 1%'er. Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #58
Nothing odd about that, most of the conversation and praise here are for such folk TheKentuckian Apr 2012 #60

vaberella

(24,634 posts)
3. Ratigan is not a liberal. He's a Libertarian.
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:50 PM
Apr 2012

That's how he rolls. I don't even know why liberals generally tune in. He's totally anti-government and finds it worthless.

 

RevStPatrick

(2,208 posts)
44. And MSNBC is not a "liberal network"
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:25 PM
Apr 2012

It is a money-making machine, just like Fox.
They figured that there was a niche that was not being exploited elsewhere, and they devote a few hours here and there to attracting "liberal" eyeballs to their advertisements.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
5. I understand your charge, but I think I'd rather have someone like Dylan who says what he thinks
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:51 PM
Apr 2012

even if it runs against what many of us think, than "hosts" that just prattle off the company propaganda. It's good to hear someone critical of the President in that venue, I think. We can make up our own minds whether or not we think he's right, but don't silence him!

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
14. I don't mind Ratigan now.
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:59 PM
Apr 2012

Used to bug my ass a while ago but I think it's good to hear stuff you don't always agree with. And he doesn't do it the Fox way at all, imho - he's quite intelligent and focuses on the overall picture of corruption and heinous things humans have always done. I don't think he or anyone can expect the President to overturn thousands of years of how things work on the forsaken planet and when he blames Obama for this kind of thing - that's the part I have to really disagree with him with. Why people think we can just magically teleport to this wonderful, fair existence in an instant. That one man can change the whole course of history of how badly we treat each other and how greedy and ugly some people are.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
40. I agree. I don't need someone who only tells me what I want to hear ... that's the repug way ...
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 06:42 PM
Apr 2012

I'm a Democrat, I can handle hearing both sides.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
11. But play for pay schemes are just a GOP thing
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:54 PM
Apr 2012

And I did not say any individual person is, but that THE SYSTEM is.

Learn to read, please.

The US is far more corrupt than people would like to think.

Oh forgot the after GOP and paygo schemes.

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
15. All the time this becomes more and more clear to me. Many in the
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:00 PM
Apr 2012

US are in denial. I completely agree with you. "The US is far more corrupt than people would like to think."

Kahuna

(27,311 posts)
19. Did you really just discover how corrupt the "system" is? I'd be willing to bet that not only
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:15 PM
Apr 2012

do most Americans KNOW it's corrupt, but they have known so for many years. It's not that we accept the corruption. We simply acknowledge that it is what it is, and until voters AND non-voters become more engaged in politics and how it affects everything in our lives, it will remain corrupt. Obama would change it if he could, but he cannot do it alone. When he needed our help in 2010, we failed him and the country.

Dylan is a libertarian, as has been pointed out. His attacks on the president are juvenile, if not totally disingenuous.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
21. I hate to point this out
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:20 PM
Apr 2012

But your post is a perfect example of the team mentality. It is systemic and those who benefit rarely want to change it. The Guilded age took a few massive scandals, that shockingly involved both parties.

Oh by the way I bet most Americans believe the myth that we're not that corrupt...I mean we're special and chosen and shit.

Kahuna

(27,311 posts)
24. GUILTY! I'm on Team Obama and proud of it. In case you haven't noticed..
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:25 PM
Apr 2012

there are two teams running the show, and I'm on the side of the good guys. I'm not as interested in tearing my country or party down as you may be.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
27. I am interested in the country
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:29 PM
Apr 2012

Just don't accuse Republicans of putting party before country. You are doing the same.

I know there are INDIVIDUALS who may do that, but at this time both parties are corrupt, and citizens united exacerbated the problem by orders of magnitude. At least your neighbors to the south blame politicians for the corruption and don't play these stupid manichean names.

By the way patriots put the country ahead of parties.

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
26. No, not at all, but during the Bush administration it really became evident. I tell
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:27 PM
Apr 2012

people Obama is not king. He can't wave a wand and make things suddenly happen. Frankly, I'm amazed at how well he has done with these obstacles.

Too many people take things for granted, that the US will just chug along and things will be OK. I even have trouble getting some people to vote I know, because they think the country will just chug along. I got them to vote for Obama in 2008, and I will do that again for 2012.

The turning of backs on Obama and the dems in 2010 was stupid, and horrific damage was done.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
20. The main problem is
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:16 PM
Apr 2012

theis the sports mentality, GO TEAM! It means only the other side is capable of doing that.

We see this mentality in many posts that are not even distantly related to politics. Surprise, our mirror site does the same thing substituting democrat for reoublican.

Until people step away from team sports....

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
32. Yep!!! And it's always win/lose, not win/win ... and win/lose does little
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:39 PM
Apr 2012

to unite the country. Rather than focusing on problems and intelligent solutions often the rhetoric is ripping the other person/group. Deepak Chopra was talking about this on Joe Scarborough's show this week and made considerable sense IMO.

Here's a link to that segment of the show.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/vp/46963409#46963409


sad sally

(2,627 posts)
22. The massive amounts of money in politics certainly has contributed to the
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:21 PM
Apr 2012

corrupt system in this country. Some of Ratigan's criticism of the President was his decision to join the super pac party even though he supposedly didn't want to but was forced to in order to be competitive.

Once we assuage our conscience by calling something a “necessary evil”, it begins to look more and more necessary and less and less evil. -Sydney J. Harris, journalist (1917-1986)

Kahuna

(27,311 posts)
31. Oh please. Dylan was hating on the president long before the super pac issue..
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:34 PM
Apr 2012

Each and every day, rat boy will find something stupid to pin on the president.

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
61. both parties and Obama are corrupt
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 01:36 AM
Apr 2012

sorry... they represent corporate America more than most who voted.

Spazito

(50,151 posts)
9. I agree, I mute my volume on my computer while he is on...
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:53 PM
Apr 2012

He's a repub/libertarian but gets all snarly if anyone even says he leans right and has an ego that could compete with that of Gingrich or Trump and he sounds like them all too often as well, imo.

Kahuna

(27,311 posts)
18. He irritates me too. He is just as glib and useless. But that Imogen!!
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:03 PM
Apr 2012

The most irritating woman on earth.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
17. jesus, watching that posted clip was enough
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:02 PM
Apr 2012

I don't care what his politics are, he sounded like he was on speed or some drug talking so fast and getting so agitated. Didn't know who he was before, I don't watch MSNBC, but dude needs to calm down.

abolugi

(417 posts)
23. He is much too negative
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:23 PM
Apr 2012

I turn the channel when he comes on.
I don't think I've ever seen him happy about anything.
I don't have the time or energy to process that much anger!

Kahuna

(27,311 posts)
28. His rants are juvenile. How olds is he, like 50? He acts like
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:30 PM
Apr 2012

he alone just discovered greed and corruption. Newsflash Dylan! This shit has been going on since the beginning of time. You didn't discover anything that everybody in the country didn't already know, so chill.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,221 posts)
46. I wouldn't worry too much about it. How long before he winds up @ Current competing with Cenk?
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:37 PM
Apr 2012


:edited for missing word:

earthside

(6,960 posts)
29. You couldn't be more wrong.
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:30 PM
Apr 2012

But if all you are looking for is a Democratic Party, Obama hack cheerleader ... nope, Dylan Ratigan is not for you.

Furthermore, you couldn't be more blind if you think that Democrats are just perfect and aren't part of the insider Washington, D.C. establishment -- lots of the are. And even more Repuglicans are.

Ratigan calls them all out.

He is very independent minded -- which is why he wouldn't last 30 minutes on FoxPAC-TV.

Really, I don't understand why so many people just want to hear that their side is good and the other side is bad. Is it really that difficult to hear a variety of viewpoints and think on your own .... and then make up your mind? We know Repuglicans and Teabaggers are like that -- heaven help us if liberals and progressives start getting that doctrinaire.

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
36. Tough. Obama is only slightly less crooked than the the Repubs
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 06:06 PM
Apr 2012

As his signing of the "JOBS" Act today demonstrates.

Thank goodness we still have some TV commentators out there who aren't Wall St lapdogs.

 

provis99

(13,062 posts)
45. yeah, I've noticed that too.
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:33 PM
Apr 2012

some people don't age well; but on the other hand, why does 45 year old Don Lemon of CNN look like a 25 year old kid?

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
49. 45?
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 08:04 PM
Apr 2012

Damn, he looks goooooooodddddddddddd.

As to Dylan R, I don't watch him at all. He blames to blame and if he is a Libertarian (sp?), their only concern is for self and self-family and eff everyone else. Hate what you want about the Dems and Pres O but at least they do care a little bit more than the "Rs" who also care for self and eff everyone else.

Hmmmmm, I remember the 2010 elections wherein majority of the Rs/Libertarian likes (Ron Paul) was going to help and work on a better ecomony for the American people. I'm still waiting.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
42. Yeah best to never hear an opposing viewpoint
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 06:56 PM
Apr 2012

on MSNBC just like the viewers of Faux, than you're always reasured that there is no opposing viewpoint.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
47. MSNBC is not a Democratic Party network. It is not Fox.
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:41 PM
Apr 2012

MSNBC has a show hosted by a Republican for several hours every morning. It then has several opinion shows by Democratic hosts (who are not journalists; they are in the infotainment business). It then provides regular news. MSNBC is a mixture.

CNN is the most neutral.

Fox is owned by the Republican Party, so to speak.

 

bec

(107 posts)
48. I like Dylan
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:56 PM
Apr 2012

I don't take offense to anything he said in that clip, because he is absolutely right.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
51. MSNBC is not a liberal network
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 06:41 AM
Apr 2012

While they do have some liberal hosts, that's more than countered by Joe Scarbrough for three honkin' hours every morning. Looked at from the outside (the UK in this case): Fox is ultraright-fringe, CNN is centre-right and MSNBC is centreist. One could call Current a liberal network although that depends a lot on where they go in the wake of KO's firing.

ecstatic

(32,648 posts)
52. I don't think he has talent
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 07:53 AM
Apr 2012

I'm wondering who he knows at NBC because this is his second gig with the network despite the fact that he's incoherent and generally unwatchable. And I think he's lying about his age too. 39 with a head full of grey hair?

Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
53. I dont think its who he knows
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 12:10 PM
Apr 2012

as much as how many viewers he brings.He is MSNBC's highest rated non prime time show.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,221 posts)
55. Maraya, I thought this was interesting. MSNBC has hit on a winning formula.
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 10:49 PM
Apr 2012
"· MSNBC is #1 in delivering African American total viewers among cable news channels for the 9th straight quarter in Monday – Sunday Primetime."


"· “NewsNation” with Tamron Hall at 2 p.m. grew 21% in total viewers compared to1Q11, posting the only growth by a cable news program in the hour."


· “PoliticsNation” with Al Sharpton at 6 p.m. ranked #2 among total viewers (776,000 vs. 459,000) and in A25-54 for the 2nd straight quarter, topping CNN by 36% (173,000 vs. 127,000). “PoliticsNation” is up 13% with A25-54 from 1Q11, the only cable news program to post growth in the hour and up 18% with total viewers from 1Q11, more growth than all other cable news programs in the hour combined. CNN’s “John King USA” had the lowest total viewer delivery in the time period since 3Q03 and is down 41% in A25-54 and 32% in total viewers compared to 1Q11.

http://insidecablenews.wordpress.com/2012/03/27/q1-2012-msnbcs-numbers/#more-18157


The 6pmET hour of programming — now Al Sharpton‘s “PoliticsNation” – is up +32% in Total Viewers and up +18% in A25-54 viewers compared to March 2011, when the hour was hosted by Cenk Uygur.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/march-q1-2012-ratings-msnbc-reclaims-second-place-in-cable-news_b118226


“Melissa Harris-Perry” from 10a-noon (From Feb 18-March 25) ranked #1 among A18-34 ......· MSNBC Longform Weekend Prime (Sa/Su 7p-2a) ranked #1 in A25-54 for the 8th consecutive quarter and #1 with younger viewers A18-34 for the 26th quarter.


http://insidecablenews.wordpress.com/2012/03/27/q1-2012-msnbcs-numbers/#more-18157


The good news is that a lot more people are seeking out the positive as opposed to the constant negative drumbeat on offer at Fox and CNN.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,221 posts)
59. His ratings are up quite significantly, but as I asked the poster upthread.....
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 11:26 PM
Apr 2012

where is the data that shows Dylan as the #1 MSNBC daytime show? I can't seem to find that.

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