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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat Skinner has to say about spoiler alerts and common courtesy:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10133533
Skinner (59,517 posts)
Some advice about the Olympics and possible spoilers
As everyone here is probably aware, the Winter Olympics start this week. And once again NBC is going to be showing many events on tape-delay during primetime. That means that many DU members will probably not see the events when they are actually happening, and will instead see them for the first time during primetime -- hours after they have actually happened. This of course raises the possibility of "spoilers" -- when you learn the outcome of the event before you actually watch it.
With this in mind, here are a few thoughts...
Advice for people posting about the Olympics on DU
Thread titles: If you want to post about the Olympics it is common courtesy to refrain from posting spoilers in the subject line of a discussion thread. Posting spoilers in the subject line of a thread is considered rude by many people and may put your thread at risk of being hidden by a Jury.
Repeatedly posting spoilers on purpose: During the last Olympics, one person loudly and proudly proclaimed that he was deliberately posting spoilers for every event (for what he believed was a perfectly good reason). Even if you think you have a perfectly good reason for maliciously disrupting DU in this manner, don't do it.
Advice for people reading DU during the Olympics
If you feel strongly that you do not want to accidentally encounter Olympics spoilers, you should not be on Democratic Underground or any other social media during the Olympics. That is just a fact.
You should assume that any discussion thread about the Olympics will include spoilers even if there is no "spoiler alert" warning in the title.
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Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)Thanks for spoiling it.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,031 posts)dilby
(2,273 posts)And the game is not being broadcast again on tape delay.
ColesCountyDem
(6,943 posts)dilby
(2,273 posts)So there is no spoiler.
ColesCountyDem
(6,943 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,524 posts)they may be recording the game at home for later viewing.
It's a good policy to list any potential spoiler alerts in the title and it doesn't take a great deal of effort to do so.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,411 posts)Matches during the working day may well get recorded. At weekends, there's less chance of someone randomly browsing DU while waiting to watch something they could have seen live (yeah, some people work weekends, but far fewer).
malaise
(269,278 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Beaverhausen
(24,475 posts)dilby
(2,273 posts)With a rebroadcast of an event there is a time when it's expected everyone should have seen the event. I have no idea when everyone watches their DVR, so should people list Spoiler Alert 3 days after a live event takes place for fear that a person out of the country has not had time to catch up on their DVR?
rpannier
(24,350 posts)When you post it put 'Spoiler Alert'
Because courtesy is a 24-hour a day, 7 day a week kind of thing
arcane1
(38,613 posts)ColesCountyDem
(6,943 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)madinmaryland
(64,934 posts)I love sports, but for the life of me cannot watch recorded sports, unless of course it is Dallas winning the Super Bowl in the 1970's.
I spend too much time on the web and don't want to have to sequester myself.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)I knew the score because I was able to watch from work while multi-tasking on other things. Never in a million years would I post the outcome (especially as a thread title!) knowing that there are people who don't have the ability to watch/listen live from noon to two on a weekday. Just screams "look at me" more than "XYZ won".
trof
(54,256 posts)I will tell you that the USA is still in the games.
malaise
(269,278 posts)Olympic events have delayed broadcast for prime time targeting.
Big freaking difference. Sorry - very poor example - the football world cup is live and everyone knows the results because they are everywhere.
alarimer
(16,245 posts)Stay away from TV and radio too while you'r at it.
A LIVE-ACTION sporting event is completely different than a TV show or movie.
Logical
(22,457 posts)ColesCountyDem
(6,943 posts)Because I can.
Logical
(22,457 posts)ColesCountyDem
(6,943 posts)Do you accept Master Card and Visa?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)situation.
We discuss CURRENT events, not stale ones, here.
You'll just have to cope.
dilby
(2,273 posts)If people do not want to hear the results when they happen they should just stay off the internet.
ColesCountyDem
(6,943 posts)Your opinion is just that-- an opinion. Mine is just as valid as yours'.
Logical
(22,457 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)else to protect you from knowledge or information. That is your problem, not ours.
ColesCountyDem
(6,943 posts)rpannier
(24,350 posts)You don't work in any field that requires diplomatic skills
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)discuss current events around them and complain to management if someone talks about a live sporting event.
rpannier
(24,350 posts)Why is showing a little courtesy like putting an alert in the subject tag such a difficult concept?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)accurate information regarding current events is perfectly, and always, appropriate in a discussion forum devoted to discussing current events
if you don't want to learn about current events, don't go to places where current events are being discussed
BainsBane
(53,127 posts)I just wish everyone would exercise it, and that should extend to avoiding insulting people with bigoted slurs. Hearing that suggesting people avoid such language amounts to RW censorship and then having people turn around and argue that sports scores should be censored is the height of irony. It would be nice if people had as much concern for the great swaths of the population targeted by bigoted slurs as they do for sports fans.
bluesbassman
(19,385 posts)And I vote hide every time I'm on a jury alert for one regardless of the thread context. However, equating a "spoiler alert" with bigotry is not a valid comparison. No one is suggesting that the information not be presented and talked about within a thread. Rather the call is for the courtesy of not announcing a spoiler in a thread title. This allows people who wish to experience the event at a later time with the same anticipation as if they're watching it live. Again, no censorship of the information, just giving others the opportunity to enjoy the event a little more. Not really all that much to ask in the grand scheme of things, and perhaps one small step here will lead to bigger strides in more important matters.
BainsBane
(53,127 posts)and common courtesy, while showing complete disregard for the concerns of people offended by such gratuitous use of bigoted slurs. All weekend long we heard how jury alerts were censorship, and how asking people to moderate their language amounted to authoritarianism. Now we have a subject that some think more important than opposition to bigotry, and they argue for exactly what they denounced over the weekend. It's pretty clear some don't care one bit about courtesy as long as it is only women, people of color and LGBT folk who are offended. But if the more important sports fan is inconvenienced, all hell breaks lose.
bluesbassman
(19,385 posts)You are correct about some not caring who they offend, but that covers a broad spectrum.
Thanks for the conversation.
tritsofme
(17,435 posts)The Olympics were on a tape delay, I very much doubt he would have made that post in the context of a North American Olympic games.
SwankyXomb
(2,030 posts)But the Whinado on both sides of this and a lot of other minor issues over the last few weeks has me questioning if remaining here is worth it.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Sorry if I spoiled anyone.
FSogol
(45,582 posts)herding cats
(19,569 posts)It was covered by everyone everywhere. It's not something which was going to be aired later on network TV with a time delay from which the masses where sheltered.
Get over it and find something real to be outraged about. Seriously, your DVR issues have nothing to do with the rest of those who use DU.
Next time learn to use the Auto-trash by Keyword feature so you're not exposed to something you cannot bear to see.
Sincerely,
Someone sick to the point of death of useless faux outrage in General Discussion.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)The World Cup is not the Olympics. The Olympics had a time delay and many events going on at any given time.
The World Cup is no different than the World Series or the Super Bowl. No spoiler nonsense would be needed for that.
IronLionZion
(45,628 posts)If we got rid of everyone who felt they have a perfectly good reason for being obnoxious, there would be no one left here!
I actually agree with Skinner's position on spoilers. But I do think everone in this world feels "justified" for doing what they do. Bad people never think of themselves as bad.