ISIS....this is TERRIBLE. nt

[clarice]

[link:http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/06/12/iraq-isis-advance-threatens-civilians|

[ChairmanAgnostic]

1. it IS terrible that we are forced to click blindly on some other site

without a hint of what might be the topic.

Not nice.

[clarice]

3. I beg your pardon?? ISIS was the first word in my post. What did you think ISIS stood for???nt

[Coventina]

6. It is considered normal and polite to post an excerpt from the source.

Also, as a discussion board, it is usually expected that you would comment further than "this is terrible."

[clarice]

7. Ahhhhhhh I didn't know that...makes sense....thanks. nt

[Coventina]

12. You're welcome!

[clarice]

4. Your first post, and you break out the brain dead sheeple? You won't last long. nt

[greatauntoftriplets]

5. Be careful or she'll call you a "shill".

[clarice]

8. LOL....curious, how did you know Hipster was a woman? nt

[greatauntoftriplets]

11. This is someone who has joined and been banned probably 1,000 times -- or more.

She's obsessed with DU. Also, she was banned about an hour ago as chick of jupiter.

[clarice]

13. lol. Some people ! nt

[pinboy3niner]

14. I guessed Library Girl, whom you'd recognize from your MIRT work

The gift that keeps on giving!

[William769]

16. Like herpes?

[greatauntoftriplets]

17. You've got that right!

I also dealt with her as a moderator and even earlier. She's been around in one form or another since 2001.

[clarice]

18. That's a long time to be a PITA. nt

[greatauntoftriplets]

19. And her post just got hidden.

[clarice]

20. I know....cracked me up. Worst troll of all time. nt

[greatauntoftriplets]

21. She has a habit of signing up again and returning to threads where previous incarnations posted.

Too much time for trolling.

[clarice]

22. lol...how many email addresses does this woman have ???!!! nt

[greatauntoftriplets]

24. Good question.

I've wondered that, too. She also been banned from Discussionist multiple times.

[pinboy3niner]

25. Good question to ask her when she pops back into the thread

[clarice]

26. No WAY !!! I don't want her stuck on MY shoe. nt

[Warren DeMontague]

39. She's been at this a long time.

A very long time.

A very, very, very, very, very, very, very long time.

I suspect if Skinner had been running a BBS on his Apple II in 1981 with a 300 baud modem, she would have been there, trolling that.

[clarice]

43. Too funny. nt

[greatauntoftriplets]

38. As she just did.

I missed it. Was off eating dinner.

[pinboy3niner]

40. I missed it, too

But it looks like she targeted you. When she returns, she usually goes after one of her detractors. This time it was you. Congratulations!

[greatauntoftriplets]

41. Thanks!

She doesn't like me... Maybe I'll Just joking!

[William769]

9. Hey there sweetie! Finally get your head out of the book's at the library?

Or is this just a cameo appearance?

[LittleBlue]

10. It's horrible but there's nothing we can do about it

The notion of reentering Iraq is politically unfeasible in the US. And if by some miracle Obama could convince congress to restart a deeply unpopular war in an election year, the issue is completely radioactive in Europe. Britain balked at entering Syria, imagine Cameron trying to round up the votes for this.

ISIS has us beat politically on this, I'm afraid. The best we can do (ironically) is support Iran.

[clarice]

15. I just don't get it....

Blue, I'm sure that you already know this......but ... I just found out that this whole big
$%$# mess started in the year 623 with a fight over who would replace Muhammad.
Isn't that a long time to be killing each other ?????!!!!!!

[LittleBlue]

30. It's absolutely ancient

but deadly serious.

We live in a country that is only 238 years old, and one that has won virtually every conflict in which it has engaged, so it's natural for us to be forward thinking. Arabs and Persians have old cultures with traditions of honoring blood feuds.

[clarice]

31. Sad Sad Sad. nt

[Warpy]

35. Exactly, the hatreds are a thousand years old

and having Britain draw the borders to pit one faction against the other in these artificial "countries" is the root of the problem.

It hurts to watch this stuff, good people are trapped between gangs of hotheads. However, our only role should be humanitarian care to the people who wisely flee the fighting.

We have no business interfering. Yes, ethnic cleansing will occur. Yes, any Shi'a left in Sunni territory will be slaughtered. However, any Sunni in Shi'a territory will suffer the same fate. At long last, these people will be drawing their own borders that respect those tribal, familial, and sectarian borders. it's the only way to bring stability to the region that doesn't involve vicious dictators with US and European guns and bombs backing him up as long as he keeps the oil flowing.

Bottom line, we have no dog in this fight. Colonialism caused it. Colonialism can't fix it.

[LittleBlue]

36. Excellent point. Yes, colonialism is also at fault

You put it succinctly. It is dangerous to invade draw roughly geometric borders around unrelated tribes.

+rec

[clarice]

44. Warpy...I agree

And what makes it worse is the fact that if you can ever get these warring factions sitting at a
a peace meeting, how are you ever going to offer an intelligent response when if ask them

"Why are you killing each other" and they look at you blankly and say

"It's God's will"

[NightWatcher]

23. NO......this is VAGUE. nt

Maybe next time include a thread, not just a link to who knows what who knows where

[clarice]

28. I have already been hipped to that dude. nt

[ZombieHorde]

32. Ha! :) nt

[randys1]

27. George W Bush and Richard Cheney and company, may you burn in hell

[clarice]

29. lol....It's been going on since the year 623...I know Cheney LOOKS 1,000 years old....but. nt

[CJCRANE]

33. How come it wasn't happening in the 90s under Clinton

or before Bush-Cheney invaded Iraq?

The schism was there but there wasn't open conflict until after the neocon invasion.