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DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 07:20 PM Jun 2014

Of C words, and Censorship

Now, let me go ahead and say two things that must seem like a paradox, but actually are not.

One: the reason the First Amendment protects offensive speech is because any idea that threatens the power of someone will be deemed "offensive." Talk about how the Confederate flag is a symbol of slavery, some will call you a damn yankee. Talk about how Palestinians are killed by Israelis, some will shout "anti-Semite!" Talk about how Jews are killed by Palestinians, some will scream Zionist. Note I say some, some, because many times, the more vocal and pugnacious people who scream "I am offended!" at the top of their lungs are NOT, repeat NOT, REPEAT NOT at all representative of most people in the group they CLAIM to be speaking for. What happens is that "I am offended" is meant to SILENCE discussion, as surely as a Guillotine severs a neck. You can insert any variable, and the procedure flows smoothly, regardless of creed, gender, or any other variable. That is why any society that does not protect speech, EVEN offensive speech, will allow the most agreesive people to stifle speech.

Two: on the other hand, if you go ahead saying incidenary shit, you have absolutely NO RIGHT to whine about how people are mad at you. You claimed the right, you must claim the responsibilty. Yes, modern society encourages, even needs, big loud fucking words just to keep people from snoozing off. Indeed, when you talk about offensive matter, such as oh, the fact Ann Coulter has advocated the execution of liberals, you do not want to be limited to just wearing white gloves. However, the fact is, too many people are taking up the mantle of hero/heroine just because they say a lot of fucking nasty words against some easy targets! What that does is ensure lazy, cheap, and easily disputed points which the Koch brothers will glady knock down with their money. It also helps to undermine the SOLIDARITY that the left will need if we are ever going to have a chance of breaking the stranglehold that the right is getting not just on this nation, but all of humanity!

Simply put, if the only insult you can think of using against Ann Coulter is the C word, you are not simply RUDE, you are not a PUNDIT, you are just WEAK! That sort of lazy weakness is exactly what the right weants to see, as frankly, they want nothing more than to see us fight, especially if it is white males versus everyone else. Why, because they know that if they can keep the males gettign scoffed at the idea of "priviledge" and everyone else thinking that they are just in this alone, then they will have us divided and conquered, and they know damned well the only reason why they are still ALIVE is because we on the left would much rather be "offended" and would much rather "offend" people on our own side!

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Of C words, and Censorship (Original Post) DonCoquixote Jun 2014 OP
The Rude Pundit is very careful how he uses words mindwalker_i Jun 2014 #1
People who get offended by the word cunt should stay away from England. dilby Jun 2014 #2

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
1. The Rude Pundit is very careful how he uses words
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 08:05 PM
Jun 2014

They aren't just swear words to swear, he uses them in context to make specific points. Yeah, sometimes it's downright ugly, but there's a reason.

That's what I feel like we should strive for. Using words to make a careful point but to make it precisely: calling all the Iraq war hawks pussies, because they aren't going to be in ANY danger (and they all got themselves out or Vietnam). That's context. The statement has nothing to do with female anatomy, any more than calling Cheney a dick is about male anatomy. Yeah, people are going to get all uptight that anything associated with them is used in a derogatory way. But you know, that happens in societies. It's how people work.

The last time deGrass was on the Daily Show, he pointed out that the Earth was spinning the wrong way again and Jon said, "Son of a bitch!" It wasn't a slur against women, or even against dogs. If someone were to get upset about it, that's their choice, and more power to them. But please excuse me if I fail to take it seriously.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
2. People who get offended by the word cunt should stay away from England.
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 08:07 PM
Jun 2014

They use the word there like we use the word douche bag.

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