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http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=16756Banned In Fresno: Veterans Demand Fox News Be Turned Off Fox News Whines
Posted by Mark NC on June 16, 2014
A local TV station in Fresno, California did a rather trivial story about a waiting room at a Veterans Administration pharmacy. The story concerned an allegation that Fox News had been banned from the televisions at the facility. So the reporter sent one of his veteran buddies into the pharmacy to pretend to want to view Fox News. Whereupon they discovered that the channel was not accessible.
That set off a flurry of outrage over at the Fox News mothership. They aired panicky segments on this massive censorship plot on multiple programs, including Americas News Headquarters, The OReilly Factor, and Fox & Friends. In each case they characterized the situation as a blatant attempt to silence Fox News due to their reporting on the scandalous backlogs and corrupt management at some V.A. hospitals. The only thing wrong with these reports was well everything.
First of all, there was no attempt to censor Fox News. A spokesperson for the facility made it clear that that the channel was removed because of patient concerns. At least some of the patients explicitly objected to Fox News and the resultant controversy created an uncomfortable environment.
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Its pretty nauseating that Fox regards not being able to watch their network for a few minutes as comparable to being abandoned in wartime. Especially so soon after their repulsive coverage of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, whom they defamed as a deserter, a traitor, and a jihadist, before any hearing or even getting his version of events.
Some Fox commentators literally advocated for Bergdahl to be abandoned to his Taliban captors. So Fox hardly has the moral authority to use rhetoric about abandoned brothers in their programming. But you can always expect them to make themselves a part of every story with an emphasis on how victimized they are by the rest of the media. Thats the sort of behavior generally exhibited by crybabies who cant accept not getting their way.
liberal N proud
(60,352 posts)They wouldn't tell me who made that mandate. I wonder if someone isn't funding all these TV's under the condition they only show the propaganda provided by FOX.
Cha
(298,021 posts)to the f**king brainwashing.
liberal N proud
(60,352 posts)I guess it will keep me out of fast food restaurants.
Cha
(298,021 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)THEY are not. Dolts!
roody
(10,849 posts)tavernier
(12,415 posts)is a condition for me not to patronize the establishment.
Nobel_Twaddle_III
(323 posts)I canceled the food order, closed the tab.
Joe Bacon
(5,165 posts)I've been to several places where Fox Lies is on all the TV sets. I complained to the manager of a Sizzler, he said there was nothing he could do because Fox PAYS Sizzler to show their propaganda.
I also heard that from a couple delis in Los Angeles. Fox not only pays them, they bought the TV's for the delis to show their lies.
Which is why I took my business elsewhere!
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)I purposely didn't install a television in my restaurant because I didn't want some yahoo turning on or even requesting Faux "News". To think they're actually trying to get their bogus info out there by such means isn't surprising at the end of the day, but I'm really surprised that I've never heard of this before.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)whatever happened to talking with the people you are eating with? This isn't leveled at you, it is just an observation.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)But its a breakfast joint, and people are always commenting about how they'd love to catch the news before they catch their train. I just tell them they'll have to content themselves with good old fashioned news print. You'd think I'd told them I had to pull their toenails out.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)I just cannot believe how dependent a lot of people are on TVs.
stuffmatters
(2,574 posts)This is a really, really important thread. I doubt most people know that millions of tvs in public places are owned & controlled by Fox propaganda/Murdoch. I'd also read that military bases also have fox news on constantly...again due to the gifted tvs from propaganda central.
This is a really, really outrageous.
And what is Limbaugh doing on Armed Forces network. Isn't the military already rape cultured enough?
Between paranoid Fox News and women hating Limbaugh, this media programmed to our servicemen is recklessly misinforming and hateful.
erronis
(15,460 posts)alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Passive viewership.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)The ratings are assigned by how many viewers they believe are watching each set.
Pay for tv's in high-traffic areas, count all the customers as 'viewers'.
Fox has nowhere near the viewers they say they do, it's a scam and any advertiser who doesn't realize they are getting scammed are truly stupid.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)WhiteTara
(29,732 posts)is what I was told by a restaurant owner.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)The TVs were provided by Murdoch & permanently set to Fux or something.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Some franchisees take the blood money from Murdoch, some don't.
aggiesal
(8,955 posts)The company where I worked had about half a dozen tv's in the cafeteria all tuned to Fox noise.
My friends and I, requested that the channel be changed to something other than Fox, but the tv's were controlled by a retired ex-navy vet that was hardcore right wing. The set top box controlling the tv's was in a cabinet in the cafeteria, in the open, but locked behind a glass door.
Not giving up, I went and purchased one of these pre-programmed $5 universal remotes. Next time we went to the cafeteria for lunch we sat at the table in front of the cabinet and changed the channel to MSNBC. I think others that arrived in the cafeteria were surprised to see something other than Fox.
About 20 minutes later, the ex-navy vet came into the cafeteria, noticed MSNBC on the tv's, walked to the cabinet, unlocked the glass door and changed it back to fox.
After locking the cabinet he started walking out, when we changed it to a local news channel. Frustrated he turned around and retuned the tv's back to fox. This time we let him leave the cafeteria, then we changed it to ESPN, and it stayed tuned to ESPN as we left.
From that day forward, my fox hating friends would come by my desk to borrow the remote when they would eat at the company cafeteria.
The look of frustration, on the ex-navy vet, was priceless. I don't believe he ever figured out how we could change the channel without his permission, because the IR sensor was never covered up.
If you ever run into this same situation, investing $5 for a pre-programmed universal remote is nothing to keep your sanity.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)It was being dominated by either RW loons who always put it on fox, or by this one slacker who was always inside watching sports while we were out working, and a small group of us were sick of it. I bought a universal remote, found a code that worked for the TV there, and proceeded to get even in a very satisfying and entertaining way. It was even better since I would do this while those forementioned people were still in the room: Hiding the remote up my sleeve, in my jacket pockets, or even from outside, through the window.
I know they knew who it might be but even then we threw a curve. Since we all have different days off, we would rotate the remote between us so the jerks could never get an idea of who was taunting them by what days of the week it occurred on.
iscooterliberally
(2,865 posts)The guy next to me was changing all the channels with his phone. I think he had a Samsung with some sort of free app on it. You probably don't need to buy the remote anymore. I don't know what the app was called. It was a sports type bar, but this guy had Family Guy on all the TVs. It was funny watching the bar try to figure out what was going on.
underpants
(183,007 posts)randr
(12,418 posts)I believe they use the potential audience from viewers in public spaces to elevate their audience numbers.
I have complained in several businesses that I patronize and have been told that many people complain and in a few instances the channel is no longer the chosen one.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)This way they can point to the fact that their (artificially inflated) viewing figures far exceed those of any other news channel as proof that "people are crying out for an alternative to the liberal media". Likewise, this ban shows the way that real Americans have their media, and by extension their values, suppressed by the liberal elite.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)There are other places for dinner.. This was more of a diner, but who needs TV at all during a meal?
I can see having a tv for the slack times...or for a sporting event..but for "news"..no way
William769
(55,150 posts)Cha
(298,021 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)With the combined music, imagery, sex and verbal manipulation their fans are as far out of reality and awareness as a person kept on an IV of morphine to ease the pain of dying. They are no more conscious than people living in a coma. Can't shut off the juice or they'll wake up - and wake up highly pissed.
The Wizard
(12,556 posts)and normal people don't watch Pox,
libodem
(19,288 posts)Rush off Armed Services Radio. He trashes their Commander in Chief. That is not up lifting for the troops to hear a racist ideolog bitch his head off day in and day out. Harp, rant and rave. Rush is a pedophile junkie who does little kids when he is overseas. His wife is a cover. He needs that Viagra. Oh, so romantic to have your lust inspired by big pharma and Yick who knows what porn and rituals. Yick.
mimi85
(1,805 posts)being on wherever you go. And it does seem like the majority are turned to FOX. I went to a doctor recently who even had TVs in the little room while you're waiting for the doc to come in. Ugh. I wonder if those keychain universal remotes really work. I'd love to see the reaction when I turn the TV off.
My primary didn't have one in the main waiting room for the longest time, but now he does and his practice has grown a lot so the wait time has increased. The volume was through the roof. I even asked the nurse why it was so loud. She actually said that the front desk woman needs it that loud so she can hear it. Sheesh! Give me a break.
woodsprite
(11,940 posts)download one to our palm pilot and change the channel in my docs waiting room and in the ER
The nursing staff couldn't figure out what was going on.
PADemD
(4,482 posts)If there is no TV, there is music. Last week, I tried to read a book in the doctor's office; and they were playing music so loud and horrible that I had trouble concentrating on my book.
marble falls
(57,479 posts)totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)Since the patients at the clinic couldn't agree on what channel to watch it seems quite reasonable to take them all off.
Now if American Forces Radio would just take take Limbaugh off.
elzenmahn
(904 posts)...take something like this anthill of an issue, and blow it up to the size of Mount Shasta for political gain.
elzenmahn
(904 posts)...considering that the city, sitting right in the middle of the Central Valley, is quite red politically.
alp227
(32,075 posts)The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)DLnyc
(2,479 posts)No one should be forced to watch this drivel.
And I do suspect that they use their numbers from their various captive audiences, such as airports, to inflate their viewership numbers.
I always complain politely but pointedly when I see this crap, or even CNN, in a public space, and I boycott any such places whenever possible. I have no doubt that such complaints will eventually get results.
mnhtnbb
(31,415 posts)They switched it to a local news channel--run by Time Warner--and I can't
remember being in there since and seeing Fox News on again. But, I live
in lefty Chapel Hill.
Funny thing is, the bank is BB&T which supports Brat and his Ayn Randian ways
with a grant to teach Randian thinking at Randolph Macon!
http://www.salon.com/2014/06/13/score_one_for_dark_money_meet_the_ayn_rand_loving_billionaires_behind_david_brat_partner/
libodem
(19,288 posts)A few years ago. I complained to the teller. And when that didn't get results I called some person in management and that got the channel changed.
riqster
(13,986 posts)Not great, but it beats Fix, and its content fits the venue.
FarPoint
(12,481 posts)It's a propaganda machine. I would love such action to occur here in Ohio.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)She always changes from Faux and if nobody is paying attention sets the parental controls to block them.
PeoViejo
(2,178 posts)That's friggin' brilliant.
Sarge will never figure that one out.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,031 posts)xfundy
(5,105 posts)"Either change the channel or turn it off," I says.
"No, it has to be on, and on Focks," they said.
"Cancel my order, then. I won't be coming back," I says.
And I never did.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)Fox is an Opinion network. not news. So for the health of the patients who might get a heart attack from the stress.. nothing to see here..
whathehell
(29,103 posts)bayareaboy
(793 posts)and often sometimes twice a week take folks to Mather VA Hospital from Auburn to South Sacramento. When we get there they have room for those waiting and so-on.
I haven't seen a Faux News program since I have started doing doing this about 2 years ago.
James48
(4,444 posts)It's a website where you can get flyers to drop off with businesses, to "TURN OFF FOX"
http://turnofffox.org/
Enjoy.
KyleMcShades
(40 posts)And Fox News is an insult to free thought
FailureToCommunicate
(14,031 posts)One year, one post. I admire your restraint,... and like your succinct comment.
KyleMcShades
(40 posts)I'm a little shy
byronius
(7,410 posts)BOFA lobby, and a few other places.
But the universal remote idea with parental control changes is priceless.
Initech
(100,139 posts)We'd still be ruled under a British monarchy. Hell, King Henry VIII would have been too liberal for their tastes.
catbyte
(34,534 posts)worked in was tuned to Fox-PAC. I complained loudly & somebody up the chain of command obviously agreed because Fox-PAC was specifically BANNED from the TV. Instead, it showed a mixture of CNN, MSNBC & The Weather Channel (during weather events).
I felt good that I spoke up. Who needs that bullshit polluting young minds?
Tarheel_Dem
(31,257 posts)they switched to FNC, and I haven't been back. I didn't ask them about it, I just go elsewhere for servicing these days.
madamvlb
(495 posts)While waiting in line for my appointment in Goshen NY I overheard one vet complain to another that he couldn't watch Fox News, I proudly said "thank god for that"! OMG did I get an earful about how his constitutional rights were being violated! I couldn't stop laughing, I think he needed a blood pressure check!
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)Facility refuse to watch or will make a fuss about FOX NEWS being on in the waiting rooms. Some have gotten up to physically change the channel, and one told me even looking at it made his blood pressure go up!!
Gotta love these VETS!!!
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,776 posts)to be there, like doctor's offices, etc. I like to listen to my ipod, read, or just have a little peace and quiet. Sometimes the TV is so loud I can still hear it over my music or audiobook. Of course, nattering people can be annoying too, but that's different can of worms.
But if I ever go anywhere with FoxNoise on, I leave. I quit the YMCA for this reason, which turned out great, as I used that money to join out fabulous local yoga studio instead. No TVs there at all.
I feel the same way about places that play "country" music. They seem to be the same places that would have on FoxNoise if they had TVs.
mdbl
(4,976 posts)Sorry for the redundancy if someone already posted this URL.
JEFF9K
(1,935 posts)For every hour of blatantly dishonest conservative talk, there should be an hour of blatantly dishonest liberal talk. What, there is no blatantly dishonest liberal talk?