Hobby Lobby aims for forced 'Christian' ideals...

[doxydad]

The evangelical owners of Hobby Lobby made a fortune selling crafts supplies and made headlines fighting government-mandated birth control coverage. They’re also using their billions to sell the American public on the literal truth of scripture — through a public-school Bible curriculum, a huge museum around the corner from the Smithsonian and public forums on the faith of the founding fathers.

The Green family may be best known in secular circles for their lawsuit against Obamacare, a high-stakes — and highly political — case that could undercut the administration’s goal of setting minimum standards for health care coverage. By the end of this month, the Supreme Court will decide if the federal government can force the Greens to include methods of contraception they deem sinful as part of employees’ health insurance.

The pending Hobby Lobby ruling has thrust the Greens into the national spotlight, but the family’s mission is far bigger than a single court case. They’re spending hundreds of millions on a quiet but audacious bid to teach a wayward nation to trust, cherish — and heed — the Bible.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/hobby-lobby-supreme-court-case-107877.html?hp=f2

OP NOTE: Hobby Lobby buys cheap ass junk from the home of forced abortions: CHINA. How goddamned hypocritical can you get? When you shop at Hobby Lobby, you are paying for the Greens to enforce their fruity-friutcake religiousity on others. STOP SHOPPING HOBBY LOBBY~ That's why God made Ebay! END of OP RANT.

[RKP5637]

1. Agree sooooo much with your rant, last paragraph. n/t

[Bernardo de La Paz]

31. Hypocrisy? Hobby Lobby INVESTS in contraceptive makers

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024763672

[RKP5637]

35. Amazing! Shows $$$$$ rules for them. n/t

[Feral Child]

2. The greatest enemy the US faces

is internal.

[47of74]

3. That's why I don't shop there.

[Fred Gilmore]

4. Religion Is

Just a code word for evil.

[Orsino]

33. Religion is just a convenient excuse here.

The evil's in the money, or in its possessors.

[Fred Gilmore]

36. There Is No Money

In abusing children. While I do agree that money is a real problem, criminal conduct hiding behind the curtain of religion in just pure evil.

[SheilaT]

5. For some of the things I used to buy at Hobby Lobby,

like embroidery floss, I still have Michael's.

[xfundy]

8. Michael's is owned by the Kochs.

[SheilaT]

10. Who owns Joanne's

Embroidery floss is quite inexpensive, so if I spend more than two dollars at a time it's a lot.

I no longer buy the pillowcases I like to embroider at the craft stores because the quality of the cotton has dropped so much. I get them on ebay these days, and since I'm now 65 I may already have enough things to embroider to last me well past the time when I have two brain cells to rub together.

[kcass1954]

26. owned by private equity firm Leonard green &associates.

Sign up for their sale flyers and emails, and grab floss when it's on sale.

I buy very little there anymore because the fabric quality is crap. But the floss is consistently good.

I buy fabric in quilt shops -locally if I can get what I need. Same with xstitch supplies.

[SheilaT]

40. The floss is all DMC.

Pretty much the only one out there.

I do buy reading glasses at Michael's, because they are the least expensive ones around, and spending more money isn't worth it, as all reading glasses break after a while. And I need to buy them in bulk so as to scatter them around the house so there will always be a pair handy when I need them.

[theHandpuppet]

11. Damn. I'm glad you told me that.

Is there an arts & crafts store that ISN'T owned by sleazebags??

[niyad]

41. I am fortunate to have a local art supply store and several independently owned crafting stores

in my area.

[Arkansas Granny]

20. Do you have a link for that info? I've seen several lists to boycott Koch Industries, but I don't

recall seeing Michael's on any of them. That's where I've been shopping instead of Hobby Lobby, but it's a Koch company I'll have to start shopping online for my craft supplies.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

29. Wikipedia disagrees.

"Owner(s) Bain Capital, Blackstone Group, Highfields Capital Management"

In turn, there is no mention of Koch in their articles.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

37. Although Bain Capital is hardly any better.

Just surprised they haven't broken it up and sold it off in pieces yet...

[Ron Green]

6. Hobby Lobby are nostalgia mongers: even more dangerous

than Bible thumpers.

[leftyladyfrommo]

7. Really. Everything in their store is from China.

I was in the store and looking at their Xmas decorations one time. They had rows and rows of Christmas tree decorations and they were almost all from China. I saw a few from Taiwan.

It's kind of an amazing store in that it has a huge selection of everything with good prices. I just don't like to shop there anymore. I go on up to JoAnn's.

[LynneSin]

25. CHina - a country that will force abortions on pregnant women

As oppose to the USA where we want to give women a choice to not get pregnant in the first place.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

32. Hobby Lobby China sweatshops

[fasttense]

9. Forced Religion now that sounds just like the Spanish Inquisition

We shall make you all Christian at the point of a gun. Just what Jesus would have done.

[WinkyDink]

34. It also sounds like Islam to me.

http://www.salon.com/2001/10/11/sword/

[dawg]

12. "If" you believe in the Christian God ...

you must also believe that he renounced his ability to convert the world by use of omnipotent force, choosing instead to lead by the example of a suffering teacher who gave his life for his beliefs.

Force and coercion is not supposed to be the Christian way at all.

[jwirr]

15. Beautiful.

[theHandpuppet]

13. The Washington Post outline of the case

Here’s what you need to know about the Hobby Lobby case
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/03/24/heres-what-you-need-to-know-about-the-hobby-lobby-case/

And here is a legal scorecard of challenges to the HHS mandate:
http://www.becketfund.org/hhsinformationcentral/

[jwirr]

14. It is very much people like them that have led our nation away from the Bible so he would serve

Christianity better by shutting up.

[freshwest]

38. I'm beginning to understand why animals don't talk or read or write as humans do. What's the point?

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Obviously, other than the physical limitations to animals doing such things - why would they feel it's of any advantage in a world full of control freaks?

Yes, they want us all to shut up and do what they tell us to do. Like cattle prodded with a stick, with various grades of pain applied.

[AtheistCrusader]

16. You'll have more luck finding "Made In America" at Wal-Mart than you will at hobby lobby.

Fuck HL. I have never and will never shop there.

[damnedifIknow]

17. Once and never again

Made me feel strange just being in there and then as I was leaving the robotic acting cashier says "have a blessed day." Lady my day hasn't been blessed in years.

[mountain grammy]

18. Sanctimonious hypocrites all of them. It's disgusting.

If Bush had passed the ACA, Hobby Lobby would silently comply. This is nothing but a tantrum over our minority president supported by a corrupt Supreme Court. What a bunch of bull shit. I shopped Hobby Lobby 20 years ago, but finally figured out how creepy the whole organization was.

I believe in separation of church and state and I want my country back..

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

19. They just opened one near here in Massachusetts

I can't imagine many people shopping there.

[JoeyT]

21. Who are we to question their sincerely held religious beliefs?

[Initech]

22. Fuck Hobby Lobby. That is all.

[blackspade]

23. Your OP note is spot on.

[LynneSin]

24. Safe & Effective Family Planning Birth Control Pills - BAD. Forced Abortions and Infantcide - GOOD

That seems to be the policy of Hobby Lobby.

Here in the USA, Hobby Lobby is denying allowing women to get safe, effective forms of Birth Control Pill because saying that allow this defies the religious believes of the owner of Hobby Lobby.

Yet Hobby Lobby has no problem buying Chinese manufactured product. China is a country where for decades parents have only been allowed one child. Parents who are pregnant with a 2nd child will be forced by their government to abort the child. And in some parts of China, families may abort/abandon a child if the child is born a girl (Since boys are preferred).

So in a nutshell Hobby Lobby owners are HYPOCRITES. Family Planning is a choice for women here in the states yet Hobby Lobby would not give women the choice (or make them pay out of pocket). And Birth Control is NOT an abortion, it simply prevents any egg from making a landing in the uterus. Taking the pill simply prevents one from ever getting pregnant. Yet they have no problem giving business to a country where the government forces Abortions. This means they are ok with women who ARE pregnant being forced to have abortions. And many of these women really don't want to give up these pregnancies but have NO CHOICE by the Chinese government.

HYPOCRITES!!

[WinkyDink]

27. Establishments that sell to the public must obey public (i.e., secular) laws. (See: Counters, 1965

Drugstore.)

[factsarenotfair]

28. ANTI-Hobby Lobby. Most of their stuff is already made, not materials for arts and crafts. n/t

[Orsino]

30. The Bible has about as much to do with this as does Green Eggs & Ham.

These are partisan multimillionaires pulling GOP strings.

[freshwest]

39. Coming to a neighborhood near you, if not already:

http://metamorphosis.democraticunderground.com/10823259

If you read nothing else of the links on that thread, about how they are buying up America, please read this one, it's scarey:

Hobby Lobby’s secret agenda: How it’s quietly funding a vast right-wing movement

Exclusive: How entities related to the company are quietly pumping tens of millions into a mélange of fringe causes

Mar 27, 2014

http://www.salon.com/2014/03/27/hobby_lobbys_secret_agenda_how_its_secretly_funding_a_vast_right_wing_movement/

What we're up against.