Female Army Vet Accused of Murdering Her Three Daughters, Ages 3, 2 and 2 Months

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CARSON (CBSLA.com) — A 30-year-old woman was being held on suspicion of murder Wednesday morning in the deaths of her three young daughters in their home in Torrance.

Carol Coronado is accused of killing her three girls, ages 3, 2 and 2 months, Tuesday.

Deputies were called to the 1000 block of West 223rd Street around 5:10 p.m. after the children’s grandmother found the girls’ bodies on a bed, the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department said.

When deputies entered the home, Coronado was found naked and bloody with a knife in her hand.

“She had blood all over her face, legs, arms. Her face was like stone . . . just looking at the floor,” neighbor Ashley Madrid said.

Coronado, who formally served in the army, was immediately detained and transported to a local hospital for self-inflicted stab wounds.

“At this point no, she didn’t say anything. She’s being detained and we will try to talk with her later,” Lt. Dave Coleman said.

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/05/21/mother-30-arrested-in-fatal-stabbing-of-3-daughters-in-carson/

There is no doubt in my mind she was sexually assaulted while serving and that traumatic experience contributed to this. Its so sad those poor beautiful babies never had a chance.




Military Sexual Assault Epidemic Continues To Claim Victims As Defense Department Fails Females

[shenmue]

1. ...

[davidn3600]

2. That's sort of jumping to conclusions

We don't know the reason this happened. I wouldnt jump automatically to claim its because of sexual assault. Men have come back from the army service too and gone nuts and killed themselves and/or family.

Couldn't this also potentially be a case of Postpartum Depression?

We just don't know the facts. We don't know her mental history.

[davidpdx]

6. Yeah, it is jumping to conclusions

There are several things it could be and given it just happened it is too early to tell. I hope the family can afford a good lawyer for her because the charges are very serious.

It is very sad that the children died.

[1000words]

3. What exactly in the account leads you to believe such a thing?

"Without a doubt" in your mind, no less.

[MADem]

4. I love internet psychiatrists!

She could have suffered a psychotic break for all you know, but nice try! Check her 214 and find out why she was discharged, why don't you?

Detectives said Coronado’s mother first contacted them earlier in the day Tuesday, saying her daughter was stressed and asking them for help. It was unclear if Coronado had a criminal or mental health history.
Neighbors said the children’s’ father was across the street working on a car when they were killed.
Several knives were recovered from the home, according to authorities.
The Los Angeles County Coroner’s Office has placed a security hold on information related to their investigation.

Further, she was BARELY IN the Army--she got drummed out after a few months due to "injury." Wonder what the RE-code was?

Investigators were reviewing Coronado's medical records and her service in the military. She joined the Army after high school but only spent a few months in the service before being released due to an injury, Coleman said.
Police said Mrs Coronado was found naked and holding a knife after reportedly trying to cut her own wrists.
Detectives said on Wednesday that there were several knives recovered at a bloody scene.
Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies were called to an unincorporated area shortly after 5pm on Tuesday, the Sheriff's Department said.


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[davidpdx]

7. Yes, reading the rest does put huge doubt into the assumption the OP made

as well as the judgement to post it. It will be weeks or months before the details come out. Even then the story will probably get buried by something even worse. It's very sad.

[MADem]

8. It is a horrible story, but based on the info available, she may not have even finished

boot camp, never mind advanced training.

And what sort of "injury" ended her career is a complete mystery at this point. It could have been a mental health issue for all we know.

My heart goes out to the family. I cannot imagine having to process that kind of tragedy.

[davidpdx]

9. It's got to be devastating for the family

Losing three children (and grandchildren for her parents) and then having her in jail.

There are a lot of questions to be answered.

[PasadenaTrudy]

18. Sounds more like

a psychotic break or postpartum psychosis to me...

[MADem]

61. Those are FAR more likely possibilities than flashbacks from an Army career she did not have

as she was discharged very shortly after joining.

[Brother Buzz]

5. OK, Doc, so you've definitely ruled out postpartum depression?

Or a whole host of other potential triggers?

[Lex]

21. In some women, postpartum depression can cause a psychotic break.

Though that's not common, it can happen. I think there have been several stories in the news media over the years where it has happened and the children were harmed or killed.

[TexasBushwhacker]

54. Andrea Yates had postpartum psychosis

She drowned her 5 children when the youngest was 6 months old. She had suffered from postpartum psychosis after her 4th child was born and was advised to not have any more children by her psychiatrist. Unfortunately, she and her husband Rusty had planned to have "as many babies as nature allowed" and she became pregnant with her 5th child just 7 weeks after she was discharged from the hospital following a suicide attempt.

[get the red out]

39. +1

That was my first thought.

[Dorian Gray]

10. Those poor children

I can't imagine how their father or their relatives are feeling right now.

I don't know what makes you think you can jump to conclusions re: the mother. I doubt that being raped would lead one to killing their children. This whole crime is incomprehensible.

[TorchTheWitch]

11. yeah, everyone knowns that being sexually assaulted makes one become a homicidal maniac

Yes, that's exactly what you implied with your outrageously stupid and thoroughly obnoxious comment.

Wow, and here we thought rapists were the problem when all along it's us damn victims running around mass murdering folks that's the real and far greater issue.

Do you see the problem now of pulling really idiotic crap out of one's own butt without a single thought to what one is actually saying?

[Supersedeas]

19. no doubt a vicious rhetorical cycle

[gollygee]

12. 2 month old baby

and post partum depression - or really post partum psychosis in this case- doesn't occur to you as the most likely reason?

[JNelson6563]

30. Agreed.

[Lee-Lee]

14. The anti-vet bias and bigotry from the media and OP disgusts me

The media always, always must throw out if anybody who does something bad is a veteran. Doesn't matter if the service was 20 years ago, doesn't matter if the person didn't even finish basic training and was kicked out like this case, doesn't matter how irrelevant it was- if if serves to push the "all vets are damaged goods" narrative, it gets pointed out.

But if a vet does anything good not related to military service, do you think they poubt out "Army Vet gets 1000 hour volunteer service award"? Of course not.

And the OP- first pointing out she was a vet in the thread title (despite probably not even legally qualifying as one), then this gem:

"There is no doubt in my mind she was sexually assaulted while serving and that traumatic experience contributed to this. Its so sad those poor beautiful babies never had a chance. "

So based on a few sentences that this woman kind of served a brief while, OP has determined that the only possible explanation is that this woman must have been sexually assaulted while serving and is clearly damaged goods. What an incredibly bigoted and offensive stereotype and assumption.

I'm growing sicker and sicker of people who stereotype and assume just because I am a veteran, or any other veteran, I or we must have psychological issues. It's bigoted, it's not representative of the truth for the vast majority of vets, and stereotypes like that don't help anybody and just serve to feed the growing anti-veteran bigotry and don't help remove the stigma from those who do legitimately need help.

Both the media who insist on interjecting it where it isn't relevant and people like the OP are equally guilty of this crap, and it needs to stop.

Odds are she probably had psychological issues before she enlisted, that is the biggest reason for people washing out of basic, and her military service is probably irrelevant to any of this. But that kind of simple explanation doesn't fit the bigoted narrative, so everyone leaps to "she was a vet!!!"

[Orrex]

16. Great post

People always look for the easy answer, reality be damned!

[IronLionZion]

23. Great post

The anti-vet bias is no doubt working against many vets who are trying to get jobs and other types of important stuff in their lives together.

[Munificence]

24. I am a

vet myself, combat troop in the 1st Gulf war with 7th corp.

I am likewise sick of the media using the "Veteran" line also if someone does something wrong. With this said, most people do not realize that nearly 80-90% of the jobs in the military are "support functions" (desk jobs and paper pushers) and only around 10-20% perform actual combat functions.

What would we say if she was a registered Democrat and the title said "Female Democrat Accused...." or "Female Republican...." or "Female Walmart Worker..."

Why do we try to vilify the services any time a veteran does something?

I appreciate your post, you are much more eloquent than I am with your words to drive home the point.

[blm]

49. Look at the photoshopped image - it adds an unrelated fetus in the womb pic to the story.

Perhaps the owls aren't what they seem.

I get nothing when I click on that photo. Perhaps the decision to use the fetus photo was made in a newsroom production office.

[Inkfreak]

15. What a horrible story.

You seem to have an agenda tho. That's not cool.

[MineralMan]

17. No doubt in your mind, eh?

You must be a mind-reader, then. The fact that this woman was a military veteran is irrelevant to the story, really.

Your speculations are also irrelevant. This is one in a long line of tragic stories that are similar. Speculation, based on virtually no information at all, does not become you.

My suggestion is that you edit your post to remove your speculation, since it is based on zero information. The story is what the story is. Adding your speculations from no information to it is not a responsible thing to do.

[blm]

46. Adding an unrelated fetus in the womb pic to the photoshopped image isn't responsible, either.

Perhaps the poster is trying to convey something else and is using this family's tragedy to do it?

[MineralMan]

50. I have no idea. Adding anything to this

sad story is just plain wrong. We know nothing except that the children are dead and it appears that the mother killed them. Beyond that, there is no other information.

Speculating in cases like this is on the borderline of being obscene, I think. While sexual assaults are far too frequent in the military and needs to end, assuming that this women acted as she did because she was sexually assaulted assumes information not in evidence and is using a tragic story to promote some point of view.

I strongly object to using other people's tragedies to further some unrelated issue. I see far too much of it.

[msanthrope]

20. Paging Dr. Frist!!!! nt

[AtheistCrusader]

35. More like Dr. Phil.

[Supersedeas]

65. Is he still around...Oproah should be proud.

[Warpy]

22. An enlightened country would examine her for postpartum psychosis

This is not an enlightened country so she will go on trial for first degree murder, lose, and be in prison for the rest of her life.

[H2O Man]

44. Right.

That would seem the most obvious explanation for this tragic event. Hopefully, the legal system will consider that -- and I include the prosecutor, who should determine if this lady should face criminal charges, or if the case can be better approached in another way.

[Warpy]

52. At least it's in California, not Florida or Texas.

She's got a shot at a psychiatric evaluation in California.

[Munificence]

25. I'd also like to add

about there "being no doubt that she was sexually assaulted while serving" and paint a picture of some goings on I seen in the Army as a combat troop:

I was a combat troop in the 1st Gulf War. Before and after the war we were in "tent cities" and being in a tent city you get a large mix of troops (support and combat). It was typical at the time that female troops were not mixed in with combat troops, but boy oh boy did they sell themselves to the combat troops whenever the could.

I know of at least 5 female soldiers who sold themselves nightly and multiple times each night. It was $200 a pop and they'd service 5-10 guys a night making good money each night to supplement their income. Prostitution ran rampant and no one was forcing any of the females to do it, it was their decision.

The Army tried to crack down on this but as soon as they'd discipline the females and think they had stopped the problem then then other females around would move up and fill the vacancy... chasing that "easy money".

So maybe from my experiences I could say "There is no doubt that she was just another whore in the military"...how would you feel about that in the title? I'd never make that claim even though it does run rampant during times of conflict/in a combat zone.

EDIT:

And I'd like for you to note that every single time one of them got in trouble or caught whoring themselves out they would scream "rape" as defense as they knew it would be their best defense. I also know of several soldiers who got caught in the act with these whores and the first thing out of the females mouth was "I was being raped" and several of these soldiers were either kicked out of the army or actually served time...over a piece of ass from a whore as the military is gonna take a different route as soon as a female screams "rape". It's his word against hers and we all know damn well that society is going to scream on her behalf vs. his.

[CountAllVotes]

34. I believe you

The reason I believe you is because I once worked for the U.S. Army and yes, you are right. Most are paper pushers and few actually end up "behind the lines" so to speak.

As for the women, yes sadly, yes.

When I was working for them (c. 1980) if one of the women got pregnant they'd usually opt to abort and were told by they CO to "take care of it and get back to work" which is what most of them did.

I recall one woman that got pregnant that opted to have the child, all of the other cases of pregnancy that I can remember all ended in abortion.

The women screwed around a hell of a lot back at that time (pre-AIDS era) and I suppose it is the same still except now they charge for sex.

How sad is this anyway?

As for the woman that is the subject of this thread, not enough information to know why she did what she did and where is the father(s) of these now dead children? No one seemed to ask that question for some reason.

[Munificence]

37. This problem

(prostitution) is one of the main reasons why I do not support female soldiers being combat troops. It's pretty much the only reason why I do not support them being in combat positions.

Take for instance what I experienced...I know out of 110 of us in my battery we went at least 45 days of not even seeing a female..period! I don't care how much "salt peter" they dump in our food you are gonna get a lot of jacked up levels of testosterone (And we wrongly accuse soldiers of having this problem when it's really just nature working on us). Put a few female soldiers in this type of scenario and prostitution will run rampant. I'd also like to say that outside of prostitution running rampant "over-all cleanliness" is a problem. I know we went around 31-34 days with no water to use to clean ourselves with....I mean we literally did not even get to use a wet cloth to wipe ourselves off with for nearly a month....I think the male species is better suited for these types of scenarios vs the female species. I do not think they should be subjected to this type of scenario.

Even in garrison (not in a combat zone) the majority of the females I knew in the military were pretty damn promiscuous...I'd say at least 5X times the normal occurrence in the civilian world. I only dated a female soldier for a week or so, I ended it because I really didn't care for her having 4-5 other boy friends at the same time...was worried about catching a disease.

[CountAllVotes]

38. Again, I agree w/you

Hundreds of men and no women = well you know, you've been there, seen it and luckily walked away from it.

I noted much the same during my rather short tenure as a civilian employee who happened to work for the U.S. Army. I worked for the Adjutant General btw, so yes, I saw it all as you might well guess. again ...

[Munificence]

40. Yes, being involved

as you were could have found you buying weapons to out processing soldiers and to dealing with personal issues of soldiers....according to what your actual job function/position was.

And yes, it all is pretty sad. My biggest concern outside of the the bad rap the military gets is likewise over how most have no clue in what goes on or how our military is structured.

I hate to say this, but with the VA getting into the spotlight lately I must:

I have 2 friends that work at a VA hospital. Both have asked me why I never talk about my service and have never used the VA services that are available. I simply tell them that that was an entirely different life that I lived for those few short years and it is all behind me and really was not "who I am". With this said, both said "Well if you ever need anything let us know as there is help available within the VA and you deserve that benefit"....in the same breath they will say "It's guys like you that we feel grateful for as the majority of the ones we see at the VA are trying to scam the system and get disability benefits and these folks clog the system and make it hard for us to treat vets that could actually use some help".

[TorchTheWitch]

64. how about we get rid of the men in combat troops?

After all, they're the ones apparently so stupid they're shelling out hundreds of dollars for sex. That would also solve this massive prostitution "problem". Funny how when it comes to prostitution it's only the supply side that gets disciplined and called whores while nothing happens to the demand side. And without the demand side there would be no supply side.

You're worried about catching a sexually transmitted disease just because some women you dated was dating a few other guys? Uh... how about all the women you've been with since you've been sexually active, and how is it that you missed that for the past few decades condoms are all the rage for prevention of sexually transmitted diseases?

Just why is it that despite evidence and statistics of rampant sexual assault in our armed services (that the higher ups have systematically pretended doesn't exist not to mention the transfers, demotions, and forced discharges meted out to the women who have had the "nerve" to make the claims while the accused don't even get investigated) that you believe these supposed hookers in our armed services always cry rape if they wind up pregnant? Is there some reason they wouldn't just say they got pregnant by some other soldier they were having sex with? Is there some reason they have to identify which soldier got them pregnant even when they can't due to having multiple partners who either paid for the sex or didn't? You really think that any female prostitute wouldn't be using birth control and these soldier buyers wouldn't think of it either?

What a piece of crap post along with your first one that has fuck-all to do with the OP anyway. Clearly you seem to believe that women who sell sex are evil while there's nothing wrong with the men who buy it, that this alleged rampant prostitution in the armed services is all the fault of the women selling it while nothing at all is wrong with the men buying it, and if they were having sex with multiple women they'd be high-fived while women doing the same are scorned, and this ridiculous accusation of all these alleged pregnant female prostitutes falsely crying rape for no legitimate reason whatsoever.

And yes, I think you hate women for having anywhere near as much sex as a men, believe it's all their own fault when they get pregnant and that women are always falsely crying rape when they get pregnant while for some bizarre reason are having all this sex without birth control which you also believe is entirely their responsibility and they bloody well better remain disease free so they don't go giving sexually transmitted diseases to all those men that don't think to protect themselves for same, yet somehow have some God given right to boink as many females as possible for which they'll be socially highly rewarded for his prowess and without attempting to protect themselves concerning pregnancy or sexually transmitted diseases.

People that think like that aren't liberals or progressive and have no business being here.

[Munificence]

68. Really?

Where did I say they cry rape when they get pregnant? Please don't try to spin what I posted. I'll accept your apology by the way.

Only the supply side? Re-read some of my posts. I even mentioned the males getting kicked out or doing jail time....again, it's about reading comprehension instead of you painting a picture of what only you want to hear.

Have you ever served? Do you have any inclination of what goes on the in military? Or are you simply an armchair quarterback who thinks they know what is going on in the military? I guess you think that all the males are just natural born killers and all the females are just good little angels?

It's funny that most think that a female can never do any wrong, only the males, seems like you are one of them....it's always the big bad over-aggressive male problem. But here we are, a female kills her 3 kids and the OP is trying to say that it was because she was sexually assaulted in the military...I mean the op "knows it" and I will review the thread after this post to see if you called the OP out on it....my guess is that you have not as I see in your world that the female species is this gracious entity that can do no wrong.

If a male does something most call them evil and hideous and blame all kinds of frivolous little stupid things as the reason...I mean "he's a man"....but when a female does something most close a blind eye as to them no matter what they are given the benefit of the doubt.

Can the OP even be here as their view is an assumption and they are projecting. The OP is not using any rational logic to justify they claim and to me that is not a very liberal or progressive way of thinking.

And did I offend you with the word "whore"? Are we so sensitive in this day and age to be insulted by a word. Should I only use the term "prostitute" since you are so sensitive? I believe in equal treatment for all, male of female and this equal treatment can be good or bad. But I realize that most of the time on here that you will be called out for saying anything bad about women but it's a free for all on men.

Oh and for the record you will never guess who most of the women were that where caught up in all the "whoring of themselves out".....it was the Female Officers, college educated women in positions of power.

[TorchTheWitch]

72. yes, really

Excuse me for thinking that you said these women falsely cry rape when discovering they were pregnant... not that it matters since what I said still applies in your claim that these women falsely cry rape when discovered having sex. That's the most ridiculously thing I've ever heard not to mention entirely sexist. Just because these alleged prostitutes might be caught having sex or even having sex with multiple partners why the fuck would they falsely cry rape when there's nothing wrong with people having sex in the military? Why in the world would they falsely cry rape for having sex for money when the only difference is the financial transaction, and if it's the financial transaction that is discovered than no matter WHAT they try to claim they'd know they had been caught prostituting themselves. There is no logical REASON to falsely cry rape whether it's just consensual sex or consensual sex for money. Come on, what prostitutes falsely cries rape bringing a host of problems for themselves instead of just saying they were having perfectly legal and consensual sex? Would YOU falsely cry rape if caught having sex for money instead of doing the much easier thing and saying you were just having perfectly legal consensual sex? Of course not. The very idea that this happens anywhere but in your own head much less that it's common is lunatic as well as trying to use this asinine claim to try to refute the ACTUAL rampant problem of sexual assaults in the military. It's pure sexist bullshit

I'll even go one further that you brought up that some of these alleged prostitutes are charging $200 a pop as though it's a fortune when it's INSANELY cheap because you wish it could be you making that. Hell, $200 is still the going rate in the cheaper strip clubs to just sit on someone's lap in your underwear for a half hour in the champagne room while they have to keep their hands off the lady bits or ANY bits if that's what the stripper decides. Geez, $200 for full sex is a damned insult. GROSS.

As you indicated clearly in another post on this subject, you're alleging that there is no rampant sexual assault in our armed forces but that it's just a bunch of prostitutes falsely crying rape for no logical reason whatsoever, and that's a whopping load of BULLSHIT to try to keep the armed forces continuing to cover up rampant sexual assault on female soldiers and even when the military has finally admitted that the statistics of sexual assault of female soldiers IS rampant and HAS been attempted to be covered up by every higher up above private and that it's typical of the accusers to not only have their claims ignored but also to be retaliated against for making them. And why is it the prostitutes that only have to worry about discovery of their committing prostitution when BOTH the seller AND the buyer are involved in the prostitution EQUALLY? Because of SEXISM. You don't even mention all the rampant men BUYING the sex yet whine about these female alleged prostitutes as if they're forcing it on them. Pffffttt... were it not for the rampant amount of men in the military willing to buy sex even at #200 a pop you find so outrageous there wouldn't BE any alleged prostitution problem going on... the supply and demand bit again. What the hell do you care if there's prostitution going on anyway? It should be legal and regulated.

Since we established that the alleged problem of rampant prostitution is caused by the demand side (the male buyers) then how logical is it to want the females whether their prostitutes or not out of combat troops? Logically, it makes more sense to have the MEN out whether THEY'RE the buyers or not since it's the MEN buyers that are on the demand side and thus the cause of the alleged rampant prostitution. Me thinks your desire to have no females in combat troops is the same bigoted reason so many people wanted black people out in years past... you don't think they're "worthy".

As for the OP believing that the reason that the woman killed her children is because of a sexual assault while she was in the military that they pulled out of their butt, look up thread at my post on that subject. I SAID it was not only outrageously stupid but massively insulting to imagine that anyone who's been sexually assaulted will become a homicidal maniac.

As I said, people that are so sexist and so in denial believing despite the evidence and the military's recent admission that sexual assault against females is rampant in the military you make up sexist bullshit to try to claim that not only are these women "whores" but completely illogically crying rape when caught having sex that is the reason for the rampant claims of sexual assault and even that rather than the EVIDENCE that they're routinely retaliated against but that their claims are instantly believed. Why is it that anyone claiming they've been a victim of any crime NOT to be assumed to be truthful until evidence suggests otherwise? Just why is it that you think that women SHOULDN'T be assumed to be truthful until evidence suggests otherwise when claiming the crime of sexual assault? I know why you think sexual assault claims by women are magically "different" then any other claims of crimes against people as you've made it abundantly clear.

If you said anything else just as stupid and disgustingly sexist I'm not addressing it since there's only so much of that shit one can reasonably take, and I've hit well past my limit.

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[Munificence]

74. I am ready for another apology (or more)

"..when there's nothing wrong with people having sex in the military?


Do your research as there are rules and a lot of them. Take for instance the Navy rule of while you are on a ship or any rule of fraternization among enlisted and officers..... I know you think you know about the military but let me tell you, those rules that govern a civilian society are all thrown out the window when you are in the military. Get caught doing these as a male or female and more than likely you will be kicked out of the military....now see a reason to scream "rape"? Did you know that in the military if you are married and get caught with someone else other than your spouse that you will more than likely be kicked out? Please educate yourself, GOOGLE is your friend.

I see that it is obvious that you have no clue in what rules are set forth by the military, if you are gonna try and make your argument you should really familiarize yourself with the various military laws that govern sex and sexual contact....you owe it to yourself so you do not come of as appearing ignorant to these rules/laws.


"I'll even go one further that you brought up that some of these alleged prostitutes are charging $200 a pop as though it's a fortune when it's INSANELY cheap because you wish it could be you making that"

Wish I could be making that? I sold a business and retired at age 40. My wife is a Director over 31 hospitals....do I need to say that we are "doing OK?" Raise yourself up above this type of argument it's not very progressive of you.

"As you indicated clearly in another post on this subject, you're alleging that there is no rampant sexual assault in our armed forces"

Let's see anywhere I indicated that clearly? Or will I receive yet another apology? Not one single time in any of my posts did I even mention anything that should made you come to this conclusion. Again, it's all about comprehension....you can not win an argument so you pull things out of thin air, things that you "want to hear" vs what was said....try and keep up.

"What the hell do you care if there's prostitution going on anyway? It should be legal and regulated".

Again, educate yourself on this subject matter that you know nothing about when it comes to our military rules, you are diggin a hole with this argument and have no clue of the rules.

"Since we established that the alleged problem of rampant prostitution is caused by the demand side (the male buyers) then how logical is it to want the females whether their prostitutes or not out of combat troops"

You have only established this in your own mind there is no "we" in there, the only thing I see in there is a "you think you have established this". How sexist of you to not even lay any blame on the females?

"you make up sexist bullshit to try to claim that not only are these women "whores" but completely illogically crying rape when caught having sex that is the reason for the rampant claims of sexual assault and even that rather than the EVIDENCE"

Um the only ones I called "whores" are the ones that were selling sex, if your touchy side would rather me call them "prostitutes" then I will as I know it makes you feel much better....look up either word in the dictionary and I am sure you will get the same definition.

And continuing on....where did I mention once again anything about "sexual assault" and any statement that I made regarding it in any of my posts...which should I ask for this time? An apology? Or ask you to quit painting in your head what you think you hear...words to not lie they are there for all to see and yet you see them so different? Again, it's all about comprehension.


"I know why you think sexual assault claims by women are magically "different" then any other claims of crimes against people as you've made it abundantly clear."

I do not think this at all and I still do not know where I addressed this anywhere in any of my posts. Another apology coming my way?


"If you said anything else just as stupid and disgustingly sexist I'm not addressing it since there's only so much of that shit one can reasonably take, and I've hit well past my limit."

Ah you have no argument, misconstrue everything and then you want to take your ball and run home with it....you are no better than the OP.


and with all of this said I will leave you with your own statement you used and I ask that you "think about it":


Do you see the problem now of pulling really idiotic crap out of one's own butt without a single thought to what one is actually saying?

[Munificence]

70. Again, where

Did I say "sexually transmitted disease" I will accept your apology on quoting me wrong yet again.

Oh and for your original question:

I see no problem in having all female combat troops and getting rid of the men. I think in the world of equal rights we need to let the women do an equal amount of killing, as that is what combat troops do.

You said:

"You really think that any female prostitute wouldn't be using birth control and these soldier buyers wouldn't think of it either?"

Um hey slick, do you think we all get pizza delivered out in the combat zone? Do you think medics pass out birth control and condoms? Do you think that we can walk down to the local pharmacy? Is the only experience you have with the military what you have seen via Hollywood movies?

[AnalystInParadise]

76. Sorry

I am a retired vet and I agree with the previous poster, my wife is also a retired vet and she is sitting next to me right now saying she saw the same thing in her twenty years. This is not all females in the military, nor most. BUT there is a significant element that prostitute themselves out for whatever reason. We recently had a female Captain kill herself here on Fort Bliss. Why? Because when she was in Afghanistan, her all female FET (Female Engagement Team) had to be pulled off the front line due to more than a dozen girls (out of 45) being caught in a pornography/prostitution ring. That young Captain's career was ruined and she ended it all in April. It happens and it happens more often than you think and admitting it happens is no crime.

[Separation]

63. +1 to that.

Several prostitution stings happened on the Tarawa while I was deployed.

With that being said sexual harassment and rape in the military is an issue that I have also witnessed first hand. I had to go to two Captains Mast to testify against sexual harassment. Harming a fellow sister in arms makes me sick and I wish it didn't exist.

[RobinA]

69. Well...

It does take two to tango, so while I have no doubt that many women behave as you describe, I'm not sure it should be laid completely on the woman's doorstep. Without the buyers, no one can sell.

[Munificence]

71. Yes it

does take two to tango, that is why the military has tried to keep combat troops and females separated. In combat positions the ratio is around 50 males for every female, 20 women for every 1000 men. Set up this same scenario in a civilian setting and you would get the exact same results, probably much worse as believe it or not there is a lot of discipline.

Take those 20 women and toss them into a prison with 1000 men and see what happens.

[iandhr]

26. "no doubt in my mind she was sexually assaulted while serving"

Though no serious person has any doubt about the serious nature of assault in the military I was wondering you had any proof for that statement.

[wercal]

27. Reporters These Days

"who formally served in the army"

Formally?

[Lee-Lee]

28. Probably the best way to describe someone who only makes it 3 months

It looks like she only made it a few weeks into basic training before being booted. So an Entry Level Seperation, not even a regular discharge since she never completed training.

[AtheistCrusader]

33. Autocorrect, I assume. Sentence reads as if it should say 'formerly'.

[H2O Man]

29. Yikes!

Perhaps you could provide links to the studies which provide support for your claim that there is a direct connection between sexual assault and murdering babies?

[MoonRiver]

31. Yes, and maybe the OP could provide some proof that she WAS sexually assaulted!

[MineralMan]

47. No, the OP couldn't do that, because there's no such evidence.

It was created whole in the OP's mind.

[MoonRiver]

60. But, but, but he was so sure!

[AtheistCrusader]

32. My crystal ball is in the shop. Can I borrow yours?

[Supersedeas]

66. Pass it along please

[blm]

41. You used a fetus in the womb for a photo of the child? Why?

.

[951-Riverside]

42. The photo is from Telemundo LA

media.telemundo52.com/images/tres-ninas-asesinadas-carol-coronado.jpg

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http://www.telemundo52.com/noticias/Arrestan-a-madre-de-tres-bebes-muertas-260088261.html

[blm]

45. No - the photo of the fetus in the womb is not there. Your OP uses a photo op image

that includes a fetus in the womb, NOT the photo of the baby shot by its mother.

Perhaps you were trying to express something else in your post?

[951-Riverside]

48. It's there look at the first link

media.telemundo52.com/images/tres-ninas-asesinadas-carol-coronado.jpg <--- HERE!

[blm]

51. Doesn't come up when clicked. The other photos do.

.

[stevenleser]

56. They probably removed it from the page sometime after OP grabbed it.

It is a goofy pic to be showing and they probably realized that. No question it was up on the site though as you can still get to it via a link to telemundo. Technically it still is "on the site" it just isn't put on any page.

[blm]

57. With all the other photos, why grab that to show the 'murdered' children?

.

[stevenleser]

58. Are you referring to the OP or Telemundo?

OP probably grabbed it because it was on Telemundo and it showed all the kids on one pic, even if one was in utero, thus reducing the bandwidth pain on fellow DUers.

Telemundo has less of an excuse. That is a weird picture to create and put up. Anyone with an editorial staff should have caught that.

[stevenleser]

43. My money is on postpartum psychosis. Very sad.

Awareness needs to be raised about this problem.

[Rhymes With Orange]

55. Agree.

I wonder if there were any warning signs that were ignored?

[giftedgirl77]

53. What a crazy assumption to make by saying she was

sexually assaulted while serving. Are you sure god didn't tell her to do it while you're at it? This stereotyping all vets as fucked up is getting old.

[Munificence]

59. I alerted on this OP

but I was not the first.....I hate to say it, but only here on DU can a jury vote 1-6 to "keep it" (as you guys know when you alert and it has already been alerted you get to see the results of the jury).

I did not want the post locked as it is a conversation that we need to have. This bullshit of painting our military personal and members of it as always "victims" has to stop and we do this by opening up lines of dialogue to discuss.

OP you owe it to all of us to discuss why you came to your conclusion. At this point you have had very little involvement in responding. Do the right thing and delete it or at least state you argument with some facts in the matter that the rest of us are not privy to.

And I assume you are not a vet and have no clue in understanding what goes on in our military and the harsh reality behind it.

[AtheistCrusader]

67. Looks like a mostly drive-by turd in the punchbowl.

I see no material support of that claim by the OP, even though the OP has re-visited the thread for other purposes.

[cleanhippie]

62. And just what evidence removed any doubt that this was caused by what you say caused it?

It's one thing to speculate, even ignorantly, but to make such an unequivocal determination without any evidence to support it is not only ignorant, it's irresponsible.

[NCTraveler]

73. Besides the obvious, will you check my posting history and diagnose me?

I also hope you have a script pad. I might need some pills after your diagnosis.

[AnalystInParadise]

75. Or she could be a psychopath.....

you know......

[kysrsoze]

77. You don't know a FUCKING thing about this woman. What is wrong with you?

You don't know if she ever served overseas. You know absolutely nothing about her. You want to presume what really happened? Maybe you should be a CNN anchor.

I don't care what the motivation, murdering all three of your daughters is reprehensible, monstrous and inhuman. It doesn't matter if you've been abused or whatever. I have personally witnessed oodles of abuse in my life, and been subject to some of it, and I still could NEVER connect such an act with, nor excuse it with abuse. No one I've known who dealt with horrendous abuse would do this to their kids, and to even suppose that's what happens makes me think you have some serious mental flaws.

This woman was either a psychopath or just a typical American fuckhead coward who sees fit to try and take others around with her down with her miserable self, like that P.O.S. who tried to drive her kids into the ocean in her minivan. Two of my children are around these ages, and losing them would literally destroy both me and my wife. Despite what's gone on in our lives, we'd sacrifice ourselves for them. To make some contrived excuse for this woman's action like you've done, as if it's some sort of justification, is sickening.

[AnalystInParadise]

78. Kick for

hearing from the OP about his/her woefully incorrect analysis