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Fri Apr 11, 2014, 01:57 PM

Pres Jimmy Carter: Why a generation of white men have solidly embraced the GOP

https://thegrio.com/2014/04/11/jimmy-carter-race-motivates-white-men-to-vote-republican/


And in a no holds barred interview with Salon, the “Man from Plains” spoke plainly about why a generation of white men have solidly embraced the Republican party in multiple elections.

“It’s race. That’s been prevalent in the South…. Ever since Nixon ran — and ever since Johnson didn’t campaign in the deep South, the Republicans have solidified their hold there,” he said.

Carter also said that GOP attacks on programs like food stamps have a coded appeal for the wealthy.

“Those kind of things just exalt the higher class, which is the whites, and they draw a subtle, but very effective racial line throughout the South,” Carter said.

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Ahem - so as I've been saying . . . well - just sayin'.

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Reply Pres Jimmy Carter: Why a generation of white men have solidly embraced the GOP (Original post)
JustAnotherGen Apr 2014 OP
Rex Apr 2014 #1
JustAnotherGen Apr 2014 #2
Rex Apr 2014 #4
Rhiannon12866 Apr 2014 #17
LittleGirl Apr 2014 #29
Doctor_J Apr 2014 #37
Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #3
arcane1 Apr 2014 #5
jmondine Apr 2014 #6
hfojvt Apr 2014 #7
loyalsister Apr 2014 #8
hfojvt Apr 2014 #11
loyalsister Apr 2014 #12
geretogo Apr 2014 #22
Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #16
leftstreet Apr 2014 #9
hfojvt Apr 2014 #13
pnwmom Apr 2014 #14
Tom Ripley Apr 2014 #15
secondvariety Apr 2014 #21
Hoyt Apr 2014 #26
SunSeeker Apr 2014 #33
Doctor_J Apr 2014 #38
Thinkingabout Apr 2014 #10
freshwest Apr 2014 #24
Skittles Apr 2014 #18
The Wizard Apr 2014 #19
billh58 Apr 2014 #20
freshwest Apr 2014 #23
ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #36
steve2470 Apr 2014 #25
OnionPatch Apr 2014 #40
Jamaal510 Apr 2014 #27
devils chaplain Apr 2014 #28
DhhD Apr 2014 #31
sheshe2 Apr 2014 #30
Triana Apr 2014 #32
devils chaplain Apr 2014 #44
TBF Apr 2014 #34
L0oniX Apr 2014 #35
DirtyDawg Apr 2014 #39
joanbarnes Apr 2014 #41
napkinz Apr 2014 #42
devils chaplain Apr 2014 #45
Mosaic Apr 2014 #43
Number23 Apr 2014 #46

Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 02:00 PM

1. 100% Jimmy.

 

I LOVE listening to the former POTUS tell the TRUTH about why the GOP is such a fucked up party and designed to fail. I don't listen to that criminal Oliver North either Mr. President. He is a POS like his former boss.

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Response to Rex (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 02:04 PM

2. He's my first Democratic President

I see Jimmy Carter and I feel like I'm five again.

Jimmy makes me happy!

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 02:07 PM

4. He is my favorite exPOTUS.

 

The man puts ALL exPOTUSes to shame. He is a dynamo of goodwill and action. He makes me happy too! There is no faceless corporation behind him or some billionaire brothers pulling his strings.

He is 100% Jimmy. Nothing diluted by politics or wealth. Just truth and boy do we need it now!

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 04:32 PM

17. And he was my very first vote...

He's continued to make me proud for all these years...

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #17)

Sat Apr 12, 2014, 09:38 AM

29. Mine too! eom

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #17)

Sat Apr 12, 2014, 11:32 AM

37. Same here

 

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 02:05 PM

3. Coded appeal..THAT is an understatement. n/t

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 02:14 PM

5. It was the entire "Southern Strategy" after all.

 

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 02:20 PM

6. How dare he speak the blatantly obvious truth that GOP'ers want to deny!

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 02:20 PM

7. then why did all those southern white men vote for Carter in 1976?

And why did a bunch of southern white men vote for Clinton?

Clinton, after all, won Louisiana, Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri in 1992 and 1996 (except Georgia, but then he won Florida in 1996).

And somehow "not campaigning" is NOT a factor?

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 02:32 PM

8. In Carter's case

religion played a big role. Thus, the religious right was born as part of another southern\midwestern strategy. With Clinton, I'm not sure. But, I think the fact that he is a southerner himself might have gone a long way.

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Response to loyalsister (Reply #8)

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 03:15 PM

11. clearly then

it is not all about race, location also plays a factor.

Kerry tried to make this work by putting a semi-southerner on the ticket.

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #11)

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 03:25 PM

12. Racial tensions differ with location



Racism also runs rampant within the religious right.

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Response to loyalsister (Reply #12)

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 05:31 PM

22. You got that right .

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #11)

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 03:47 PM

16. It IS about race when you have Republicans telling white people to vote for them "or else".

 

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 02:35 PM

9. Clinton won because of Ross Perot n/t

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #9)

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 03:28 PM

13. quite possibly

but it was never clear to me which way Perot voters would break. To me, they all sounded kinda conservative, and Perot in some ways also sounded more progressive than Clinton.

Clinton won by a lot of electoral votes in 1992. And he would only need, for example 31% of Perot voters in order to still win in Louisiana. Only 29.5% to still win Tennessee. Only 27.7% to still win Missouri. Only 26% to still win New Mexico. Only 40% to still win Kentucky. Only 27% to still win Pennsylvania only 10% to still win West Virginia.

And he could lose some of those states and still win. Bush would need to get 70% of Perot voters or more, and it is not obvious to me that Perot voters would split for Bush-Clinton by 70% to 30%, much less the 75%-25% he would need to win Missouri and Pennsylvania.

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 03:39 PM

14. They got more votes from white southern WOMEN.

The campaigning helps get their votes.

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 03:41 PM

15. Because Carter ran an incredibly vicious racist campaign against Carl Sanders in the GA gov primary?

 

He's a much better man now than he was then.

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Response to Tom Ripley (Reply #15)

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 04:52 PM

21. And

Lester Maddox was his Lt. Governor. Not Carter's fault, though.

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Response to Tom Ripley (Reply #15)

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 09:31 PM

26. I love Carter now, but you are right. He started out acting much like today's Repugs.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #26)

Sat Apr 12, 2014, 10:49 AM

33. Plus Carter was and still is "pro life." nt

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #7)

Sat Apr 12, 2014, 11:36 AM

38. A couple reasons. First of all, the GOP still had Nixon around its neck in 76

 

Second, Reagan ramped up the racism with his "states' rights" and campaign kickoff in Philadelphia MI. Third, Clinton was a sensational campaigner and Bush The Not Quite As Stupid was severely wounded. Fourth, Clinton is a white Southerner

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 02:37 PM

10. Jimmy Carter is a God fearing man and very faithful Christian. He helps with the poor

And the hungry. Instead of Carter having to leave the Southern Baptist it show ld be the other way. The SBC needs to join with Carter.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 09:12 PM

24. +1

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 04:36 PM

18. GOP men think everyone should be self sufficient

but they never acknowledge the playing field is severely tipped in their favor

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 04:46 PM

19. Since Nixon,

the underlying coded Republican message has been You're a bigot? We're bigots. We'll keep the brown down. Vote Republican to keep the coloreds in their place.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 04:51 PM

20. The common denominators are:

God, guns, and gays...

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 09:11 PM

23. Excellent. Followed all the links. Jimmy is telling it like it is, like PBO today:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4809989

to ChisolmTrailDem


Carter telling the truth is more damning than a pack of media liars.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #23)

Sat Apr 12, 2014, 11:22 AM

36. Oh, wow! Thanks for the tip-of-the-hat, freshwest! I'm also very fond of President Carter =) nt

 

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 09:24 PM

25. tell the truth President Carter ! My first vote for President ! nt

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Response to steve2470 (Reply #25)

Sat Apr 12, 2014, 12:21 PM

40. Mine too!

I remember riding to the polls with my grandmother. She was so proud to be taking me to vote for the first time and she just assumed I would be voting for Reagan. Boy was she wrong. I despised the Republican party even back when I was 18 and I adored Jimmy Carter. I didn't say anything to her, though. She would never have changed her vote, so why get her upset?

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Fri Apr 11, 2014, 10:33 PM

27. K&R

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Sat Apr 12, 2014, 07:31 AM

28. President Carter is correct.

Poor, lower class whites have been voting for the rich man's party for a long time at their own expense.

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Response to devils chaplain (Reply #28)

Sat Apr 12, 2014, 09:52 AM

31. It is scary. The poor and lower class whites that you wrote about may believe that the

Democratic Administration has been removing social benefits. Was any social net program cut during Bush I or Bush II? Democrats recently voting for cuts to SNAP, help seal a continuation of those poor and lower class whites voting for the GOP. Certain GOP lawmakers abstain from voting on theses issues so as to purify themselves when up for re-election. Democratic thirdwayers voting like the GOP, need to be removed in a primary as soon as possible.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Sat Apr 12, 2014, 09:40 AM

30. Kicked and Recommending!

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Sat Apr 12, 2014, 10:25 AM

32. The wealthy are evidently v.ignorant because...

 

....most users of food stamps are white. Many working and elderly.

They subscribe to the stereotype of SNAP users as being black or hispanic I suppose. But that's just not the case. Most on food stamps are white.

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Response to Triana (Reply #32)

Sat Apr 12, 2014, 08:43 PM

44. The wealthy / GOP elite do everything they can to reinforce that stereotype...

Poor whites deprive themselves of nutrition and health care so as not to "reward the lazy blacks" and to "keep America from becoming communist."

They are indeed ignorant -- and the right-wing media plays them like a fiddle.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Sat Apr 12, 2014, 10:50 AM

34. He's not holding back -

and it is a breath of fresh air.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Sat Apr 12, 2014, 10:52 AM

35. ...and yet there are some ignorant stupid assholes that say Carter is a racist.

 

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Sat Apr 12, 2014, 11:55 AM

39. I still say...

 

...that the reason 'white folks' have a problem with race is that they think that when they become a minority, they'll be treated by the 'new' majority the same way they've been treating the current minorities for the past coupla-hundred years...and they'll (we'll) deserve it.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Sat Apr 12, 2014, 01:35 PM

41. Carter not afraid to share and show his wisdom and blow up Right Wing heads.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Sat Apr 12, 2014, 01:42 PM

42. President Johnson answered that question decades ago ...


















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Response to napkinz (Reply #42)

Sat Apr 12, 2014, 08:44 PM

45. I'm not a big LBJ fan... but he nailed it. n/t

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Sat Apr 12, 2014, 02:17 PM

43. It's self deluding that by joining the "club" for the filthy rich

Poor, low class, working class whites can delude themselves into thinking they are one of them. The rich see a clear dividing line, but use the republican party to maintain power in our psuedo democracy. The real truth is even darker than old Jimmy sees it.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Original post)

Sat Apr 12, 2014, 09:55 PM

46. K&R!! I am so sorry I didn't see this sooner!!

This place has been making me almost nauseous lately. I haven't been reading or posting much. And I missed this!!

And of course, those with half, no, a THIRD of a brain know that what Carter is saying is the truth. Which makes all of the "Obama is a moderate Republican crypto fascist who could have been the best liberalest president if he'd used the magical bully pulpit" that much more the rantings of the uninformed and naive.

K&R

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