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This idiot has already been visited by the Secrete Service and got off with a warning. Now he thinks that women are not allow to speak,pray or say "Amen" in church http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/24/anti-gay-pastor-who-prayed-for-obamas-death-demands-silence-from-women-in-church/
Pastor Steven Anderson of the Faithful Word Baptist Church garnered national attention in 2009 when he told his followers that he prays for the death of President Barack Obama every night. After being contacted by the Secret Service, he insisted that he didnt say he wanted his parishioners to attack the president, he did say the country would benefit from Mr. Obama dying.
Pastor Anderson first attempted to justify the silencing of women by quoting 1 Timothy 2:11, [l]et the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
He then asked the congregation to flip to 1 Corinthians 14, which says [l]et your women keep silence in the churches, for it is not permitted unto them to speak, as it is commanded to be under obedience as also sayeth the law. And if they will learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is shameful for women to speak in the church.
Now obviously, he continued, before the service begins, theres chatting and talking going on, thats perfectly legitimate. When we all sing praises to God, of course the ladies should also lift up their voices
I remember his prayers for the death of President Obama and was surprised that he only got a warning from the Secret Service. Now this latest stunt from this idiot is going to run off all of his women followers.
lumpy
(13,704 posts)in the pre-enlighted age.
enlightenment
(8,830 posts)to be silent.
I think they should have gotten up and walked out - perhaps after telling the pastor what they thought of his interpretation.
redqueen
(115,096 posts)Timothy 2:12
Corinthians 14:34
Gothmog
(143,998 posts)As a Jew, I am happy that these passages are not from my part of the bible.
redqueen
(115,096 posts)A fact which is often used to disavow such atrociousness (e.g. 'But that's in the old testament! It doesn't count!')
sheshe2
(83,324 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Kurovski
(34,655 posts)then they can talk about hats and recipes and all those important things while they set the tables.
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)Isn't this crap what America keeps voting for? But seriously, where's a doctor for this chap? Thank god he's got a small closet...I mean pulpit.
I wonder what the Koch brothers have to say about this. If the womenz get too uppity, God might take away the pipeline they been paying so much money for.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)are 'no longer applicable' while they rail endlessly about the 'anti gay' verses shouting 'This is the Word of God, it say right there it is a sinnnnnnnnnn!'
If you are a Christian, this is what your religion says. Own it or move on.
Gothmog
(143,998 posts)This pastor is a real idiot and has pissed off Juanita Jean http://www.juanitajean.com/2014/03/25/because-you-know-those-ta-tas-make-you-stoopid/
You know the boy who couldnt get a date to the prom because he never bathed and his socks stank and he never combed his hair? Well, he grew up and became a Baptist preacher.
I have proof.
The preacher who hates gays and openly told his congregation that he prays every night for President Obamas death (which kinda tells you what God thinks of his lamentations) now has a new enemy.
The ladies.He then asked the congregation to flip to 1 Corinthians 14, which says [l]et your women keep silence in the churches, for it is not permitted unto them to speak, as it is commanded to be under obedience as also sayeth the law. And if they will learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is shameful for women to speak in the church.
Yes, the ladies are not allowed to speak or even say Amen in the church. If they have a question, they are to ask their husbands at home to ask the question for them at church. That, of course, is from St. Pauls letter to the church at Corinth.
Then he doubles down with St. Timothy.Pastor Anderson first attempted to justify the silencing of women by quoting 1 Timothy 2:11, [l]et the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
I guess hes already warming up for Hillary 2016.
Now, just to prove hes not a total hooter hater, he says, Now obviously, before the service begins, theres chatting and talking going on, thats perfectly legitimate. So, you women do your little recipe exchanges and giggling before the serve but remember too shut the hell up for men business.