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Ah, that truth is slipping out... (Original Post) nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 OP
The truth will out Nadin. Thanks for posting this. Would you please Autumn Mar 2014 #1
done nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #3
Thank you. n/t GP6971 Mar 2014 #27
How many decisions have gone 5-4 or more in favor of business in recent years? Scuba Mar 2014 #2
More than how many, but how many that are critical? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #4
Will no doubt go down as the most infamous case in SCOTUS history. Scuba Mar 2014 #6
Bush v Gore is pretty infameous, bvar22 Mar 2014 #33
That's the big one malaise Mar 2014 #17
I'd vote for giving power to GWB. Class Action of Citizens voting for Gore. Overseas Mar 2014 #28
You got me. Stealing the Presidency tops even Citizens United. Scuba Mar 2014 #29
Pssssst ... it's called "fascism." 1000words Mar 2014 #5
I've done that for years nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #7
Exactly! The Masked Shrike Mar 2014 #8
We did not come up with that word nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #10
Indeed The Masked Shrike Mar 2014 #16
Well yes, but that is because Americans are woefully uneducated. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #18
As opposed to who? whathehell Mar 2014 #40
Think you mean "As opposed to whom." n/t malthaussen Mar 2014 #43
Oh my.. whathehell Mar 2014 #45
Easy on us El Shaman Mar 2014 #51
Wow! The grammar fussbuget fails! demwing Mar 2014 #49
+1 an entire shit load! Enthusiast Mar 2014 #35
don't forget the trolls. Phlem Mar 2014 #19
or the zombies nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #20
Yes. Even arguing against higher corporate taxes. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #36
I would say that anybody attacking you for that navarth Mar 2014 #24
Well, the moon reflects the light from the sun nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #25
I dunno navarth Mar 2014 #26
Personally, I (and Mussolini)... nikto Mar 2014 #30
Tomato, tomahto. 1000words Mar 2014 #31
SUPERB. As she usually is! calimary Mar 2014 #9
K and R (nt) bigwillq Mar 2014 #11
NY Times: Supreme Court, Inc. antigop Mar 2014 #12
Nothing changes for years and years, and then suddenly... reformist2 Mar 2014 #13
certainly hope so nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #14
Thanks Elizabeth!! You are an angel!! hue Mar 2014 #15
Presidental. marble falls Mar 2014 #21
I think that has already happened ... nt MindMover Mar 2014 #22
powerful sad-cafe Mar 2014 #23
DING DING DING!!! 2naSalit Mar 2014 #32
Thank you, nadinbrzezinski! K&R! Enthusiast Mar 2014 #34
How? demwing Mar 2014 #50
That's the objective. Populist progressive majorities and a populist progressive president. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #60
You're much more optimistic than I demwing Mar 2014 #61
One of my greatest disappointments was after the Democratic majority Enthusiast Mar 2014 #62
And unfortunately it will take decades to get these clowns off the SC davidpdx Mar 2014 #37
Spot on madokie Mar 2014 #38
K&R woo me with science Mar 2014 #39
K&R. myrna minx Mar 2014 #41
i think we're already there spanone Mar 2014 #42
Isn't it lovely when someone from the halls of power... malthaussen Mar 2014 #44
Smart, articulate and CORRECT! mountain grammy Mar 2014 #46
Wish some of the fascist five would go away so President Obama can get a non-fascist in. santamargarita Mar 2014 #47
We need to lose two, ASAP demwing Mar 2014 #52
A real Democrat. What a rare and endangered species. Jakes Progress Mar 2014 #48
The Supreme Court upheld several of the civil rights laws treestar Mar 2014 #53
See, this is why we really need to elect Sen. Warren to the presidency in Zorra Mar 2014 #54
The supremes better watch out fasttense Mar 2014 #55
That is a little detail of the TTP nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #56
(Sooner, not later) Sing it, Senator! merrily Mar 2014 #57
EW: Telling it like it is once again. LuckyLib Mar 2014 #58
Could we, or can we, ever expect Hillary to come out swinging with the truth like Elizabeth? YOHABLO Mar 2014 #59
We have every reason to believe that Hillary will fight passionately demwing Mar 2014 #63
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
2. How many decisions have gone 5-4 or more in favor of business in recent years?
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:03 PM
Mar 2014

I know there's been some blockbusters gutting the power of class action suits, but don't have a good reference.

Anyone?

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
33. Bush v Gore is pretty infameous,
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 01:06 AM
Mar 2014

....and in some ways worse.

" One thing, however, is certain. Although we may never know with complete certainty the identity of the winner of this year's Presidential election, the identity of the loser is perfectly clear. It is the Nation's confidence in the judge as an impartial guardian of the rule of law."
---Justice JP Stevens Dissent, Bush v Gore


...but Citizens United is a BIG Fuck You to the 99% too.

Overseas

(12,121 posts)
28. I'd vote for giving power to GWB. Class Action of Citizens voting for Gore.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 10:37 PM
Mar 2014

That may have been the kick off.

ADDING:

But no, the NYT article posted below, Supreme Court Inc. gives the longer history, back to the infamous Powell Memo.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
7. I've done that for years
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:08 PM
Mar 2014

but I no longer use that word here when it applies to the US. Trust me, we have a small group of very committed folks that will personally attack you. And it is getting worst by the year.

 
8. Exactly!
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:15 PM
Mar 2014

That's why we had to come up with the word "corporatism". Fascism simply is too offensive. Similarly, the truth seems to offend many people as well.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
10. We did not come up with that word
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:19 PM
Mar 2014

Mussolini did.

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini

And yes, Libertarians are now trying to claim this is not a real quote, which is interesting, and not surprising.

Here libertarian quote

http://blog.skepticallibertarian.com/2013/02/07/fake-quote-files-mussolini-on-fascism-and-corporatism/

That quote is found in this collection

Benito Mussolini, 1935, The Doctrine of Fascism, Firenze: Vallecchi Editore.

 
16. Indeed
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:39 PM
Mar 2014

Yes, I know the history of fascism. There are many on this board who refer to the DLC wing as corporatists, or Obama as a corporatist. My point being, the left will get more traction with your average person using the term, corporatist, than the emotionally charged fascist. (Even though by your reference, they are equivalent.)

whathehell

(29,111 posts)
45. Oh my..
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 11:19 AM
Mar 2014

I get distraction attempt, bro, but since few distinguish between "who" and "whom" anymore, it's lame, even on its face.

Try again.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
49. Wow! The grammar fussbuget fails!
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 12:10 PM
Mar 2014

Shouldn't "Think you mean..." have been written: "I think you meant..."?

Also, shouldn't your quote ("As opposed to whom.&quot have ended with a question mark?

navarth

(5,927 posts)
24. I would say that anybody attacking you for that
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 10:02 PM
Mar 2014

should be urged to consider the possible option of going and fucking themselves. My 2 cents.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
25. Well, the moon reflects the light from the sun
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 10:03 PM
Mar 2014

will be attacked since I posted it.

It is Du, what do you do?

navarth

(5,927 posts)
26. I dunno
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 10:10 PM
Mar 2014

But I think my previous answer applies here as well. Sounds like you have a 'fan club' maybe? Do many of your posts get attacked? I hadn't noticed, but you're one of my favorite DUers, so I'll try to pay attention.

The fascism seems obvious to me. People can call it what they like, and I'll call it what I like. Fascism.

calimary

(81,608 posts)
9. SUPERB. As she usually is!
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:17 PM
Mar 2014

Thank God there's an Elizabeth Warren in the Senate! If there weren't, I'd really start losing hope.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
13. Nothing changes for years and years, and then suddenly...
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:21 PM
Mar 2014

...everything changes overnight.

I think we're getting close to that proverbial tipping point. And Elizabeth Warren just might be the one to push us over.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
34. Thank you, nadinbrzezinski! K&R!
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 04:13 AM
Mar 2014

Fabulous quote!

Way to go Elizabeth!

Now we have to undo the damage the corporate supreme court has already done.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
50. How?
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 12:20 PM
Mar 2014

Not to be a downer, but we'd need populist, progressive majorities in both chambers, a populist, progressive president, and a few "acts of God" to hasten the retirement of our most reluctant Justices.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
60. That's the objective. Populist progressive majorities and a populist progressive president.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 06:28 PM
Mar 2014

Then we hope to replace the neanderthals on the court. Apologies to neanderthal. Maybe one or more of of them will decide to retire early.

So, you said how, and I'm with you.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
61. You're much more optimistic than I
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 06:34 PM
Mar 2014

We need that change yesterday, and won't likely see it for a generation

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
62. One of my greatest disappointments was after the Democratic majority
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 07:14 PM
Mar 2014

was swept into office in 2006 they did not act to make certain that elections could not be tampered with. I was shocked that they didn't make this a priority.

We need uniform voting laws nationwide with a verifiable paper trail.

After the fake election (coup) in 2,000 one would think the Democrats would have been on it. I found that odd.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
37. And unfortunately it will take decades to get these clowns off the SC
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 07:10 AM
Mar 2014

and I'd venture to guess a half century to reverse all the bs decisions.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
38. Spot on
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 07:20 AM
Mar 2014

Senator Warren is the best we have out there, Bernie is next in line. In my opinion that is
Senator Brown deserves mention too
Representative Grayson also
Theres others but you get the picture I hope

malthaussen

(17,241 posts)
44. Isn't it lovely when someone from the halls of power...
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 11:00 AM
Mar 2014

... says something the rest of us have been thinking for years?

Elizabeth Warren is our voice in Congress.

-- Mal

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
52. We need to lose two, ASAP
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 12:25 PM
Mar 2014

Thomas, and his puppet master Scalia.

Funny...Firefox doesn't like the word "Scalia," and prompts me to use "scaliness."

How very appropriate...

Jakes Progress

(11,124 posts)
48. A real Democrat. What a rare and endangered species.
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 12:04 PM
Mar 2014

Thank you for that sighting. We don't get to see many of these wonderful creatures anymore.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
53. The Supreme Court upheld several of the civil rights laws
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 12:26 PM
Mar 2014

And has held up many consumer laws.

They are to follow the law and for the most part they reason the law out. There is no reason to be this shabby about them and to imply they are all corrupt.

Scalia is a disgrace, but we got that for electing Republicans.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
54. See, this is why we really need to elect Sen. Warren to the presidency in
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 12:29 PM
Mar 2014

2016, whether she likes it or not.

We need her, and she's just gonna have to woman up and accept her responsibility to the people of the US.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
57. (Sooner, not later) Sing it, Senator!
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 02:33 PM
Mar 2014

Warren's holding church, secular style (the way that a US Senator should).

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
63. We have every reason to believe that Hillary will fight passionately
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 08:02 PM
Mar 2014

for the things in which she believes.

It's the list of things in which Hillary believes that makes me wary.

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