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Toon: Worst President in history! (Original Post) Playinghardball Jan 2014 OP
I wonder what that guy's DU user name is? 11 Bravo Jan 2014 #1
+1 Progressive dog Jan 2014 #2
LOL. Whisp Jan 2014 #6
nice! but drones... Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #8
And climate doom! Fracking! Snowden! Bush-Lite! AverageJoe90 Jan 2014 #31
heh! BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #15
Ha! Already here, with pals. nt Hekate Jan 2014 #24
K&R. nt awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #3
k&r... spanone Jan 2014 #4
I still don't see why soaring corporate and Wall Street profits is a good thing NuclearDem Jan 2014 #5
do some math on how many were there in 2008 and how many are there now Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #10
What economic health? NuclearDem Jan 2014 #13
pukrs blocked the jobs bill that PBO tried to get through congress, BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #14
US Stock ownership at an all time low. progressoid Jan 2014 #17
all time low? Or since the start of your graph in 1999. The range is from 52% to 60% Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #18
Worse, yet, like wealth in America, most of it goes to the top. progressoid Jan 2014 #21
And they will get back in more treestar Jan 2014 #41
Damn Shameful. davidthegnome Jan 2014 #19
Likely, more average people are draining retirement accounts PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #22
Yep. n/t progressoid Jan 2014 #23
Well it's OUR 401's sheshe2 Jan 2014 #26
Obama started withdrawing in 2011. joshcryer Jan 2014 #30
I would've added something sakabatou Jan 2014 #7
Record Wallstreet and corporate profits are not the halmark of a great president. progressoid Jan 2014 #9
Politicians have been suckered into thinking what's good for Wall Street is good for Main Street.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #12
It is for the investor class. zeemike Jan 2014 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #11
Not the worst, obxhead Jan 2014 #20
Yes whine whine whine.. Cha Jan 2014 #25
...with the able assistance of my lovely First Lady, OilemFirchen Jan 2014 #27
lol Cha Jan 2014 #28
Wow, this thread must have gotten tons of views sheshe2 Jan 2014 #29
Yeah, too bad Cha Jan 2014 #32
Red whine can be drawn out, sheshe2 Jan 2014 #33
Obama says.. Cha Jan 2014 #36
Well sheshe2 PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #35
The effort to claim there is no economic recovery treestar Jan 2014 #40
Except it was the Bush administration that is responsible for the auto bailout. Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #34
Heh. Are they taking credit for that now too? tridim Jan 2014 #38
The bailout was the money given. And that was in 2008. Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #39
Uhm, no. tridim Jan 2014 #42
Great cartoon Gothmog Jan 2014 #37
 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
5. I still don't see why soaring corporate and Wall Street profits is a good thing
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 06:50 PM
Jan 2014

And color me confused, but I missed the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
10. do some math on how many were there in 2008 and how many are there now
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 06:59 PM
Jan 2014

you may also want to research how stock price typically reflects valuation of a company based on expected growth from current level. many regular joe blow citizens have retirement accounts pegged to indexes. As those indexes go up, their 401k's and IRA's increase in value. Additionally, it speaks to a general economic climate that will spur hiring as companies grow and expand.

We can argue that not enough of a company's profitability makes it to labor, but it is hard to argue broad increase in company valuations by the market is not tied to the larger economic health in our country.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
13. What economic health?
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 07:13 PM
Jan 2014

This recovery has been terrific for Wall Street, but absolutely absent for everyone else. Wages are stagnant and most new jobs being created are shitty minimum wage jobs with little in the way of benefits.

That's not a recovery.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
14. pukrs blocked the jobs bill that PBO tried to get through congress,
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 08:06 PM
Jan 2014

Pukes blocked tax breaks meant to attract and keep corporations staying in US rather than moving overseas, pukes blocked and reduced stimulus amounts, blocked unemployment extension, food stamps....a zillion other actions that would have helped economy, blocked by pukes or passed during boosh.....

Way more than I can remember.

Also.....healthy stocks benefit way more than just Wall St. Wolves. Anyone with pension benefits for one thing...those programs invest in the market.
If stocks were to crash, the devastation would make what weve got now look like a picnic.

Way much more than I'm able to explain. More knowledgeable people than me here could help.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
18. all time low? Or since the start of your graph in 1999. The range is from 52% to 60%
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 08:47 PM
Jan 2014

not exactly a giant spread from fat years to lean years. What was stock ownership percentage for Americans in 1940? 1950? 1960? I doubt it was above 50%.

Still, half or more of U.S. households are directly tied to stock market per your own graph. That's pretty significant percentage.

progressoid

(49,945 posts)
21. Worse, yet, like wealth in America, most of it goes to the top.
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 10:21 PM
Jan 2014

The average working American is NOT benefiting from this "recovery".

treestar

(82,383 posts)
41. And they will get back in more
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 12:35 AM
Jan 2014

seeing the stock market go up.

It's silly these arguments that the stock market is only for the very rich. Do they realize what happens when it crashes? Then they are willing to admit it has overall effect.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
19. Damn Shameful.
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 08:55 PM
Jan 2014

Is the government still pumping billions of dollars into the stock market every month? It's not something I really keep up on because I haven't got any money to invest, but I do wonder if that's, at least in part, the reason why the stock market appears to be doing so well.

As for the wages... this is a National outrage and embarrassment. I make eight dollars an hour, without benefits - and it's not enough to survive on my own, it's not enough to go back to school. There are a lot of people on the same boat. It sucks. I guess the economic recovery kind of went over our heads, or something. It could be worse, I suppose, people like me could all be unemployed... but to call what's happening here an economic recovery for the majority, is a terrible lie.

sakabatou

(42,136 posts)
7. I would've added something
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 06:53 PM
Jan 2014

The guy saying he's the worst president would be, from behind, used by Murdoch a la sock puppet/strings.

progressoid

(49,945 posts)
9. Record Wallstreet and corporate profits are not the halmark of a great president.
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 06:56 PM
Jan 2014

Especially while the income of the rest of the country stagnates or declines.




 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
12. Politicians have been suckered into thinking what's good for Wall Street is good for Main Street....
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 07:08 PM
Jan 2014

America has seen it's not but DC has always been slow to catch up.

Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
20. Not the worst,
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 08:58 PM
Jan 2014

but not the best.

We've yet to actually pull out from Afghanistan and 1,000's of private corporate militia with no or little government oversight still operate in Iraq.

Wall street records are based solely on the fed printing money faster than we can chop down trees and a banking industry that has nowhere else to put the money.

DADT was repealed simply to avoid a court battle.

OBL... that was a bold move that thankfully paid off. "props" on that one.

Certainly not the worst, by far, but the toon implies a rosy picture that simply doesn't exist.

Cha

(296,846 posts)
25. Yes whine whine whine..
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 12:23 AM
Jan 2014

"Prez is not working fast enough. If I were President I could do 10 times as fast!"

sheshe2

(83,654 posts)
29. Wow, this thread must have gotten tons of views
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 12:54 AM
Jan 2014

from those that wanted him to fail.

You know, Cha. Those that really wanted to diss him~

Oh my~ 28 replies, 2265 views


sheshe2

(83,654 posts)
33. Red whine can be drawn out,
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 01:51 AM
Jan 2014

just put salt on the wound (Ouch that stings) I meant the stain!

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Cha! Great pics~

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
35. Well sheshe2
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 01:58 AM
Jan 2014

I clicked this thread thinking it was something about GWB. You certainly can not tell from the title what it will be about.

Title is click fodder, lots of people took the bait.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
34. Except it was the Bush administration that is responsible for the auto bailout.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 01:54 AM
Jan 2014

Credit should be given where credit is due.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
38. Heh. Are they taking credit for that now too?
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 10:57 AM
Jan 2014

Yes, Bush threw some no-strings cash at the auto industry, failed, and then handed the bailout over to the incoming Obama administration who promptly made the bailout work.

In a few short months they'll also be taking credit for Obamacare, just watch.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
39. The bailout was the money given. And that was in 2008.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 12:11 AM
Jan 2014

The Obama administration doesn't get credit for it for collecting the return checks.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
42. Uhm, no.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 08:31 AM
Jan 2014
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_Chapter_11_reorganization

The Bush admin provided a small bridge loan in 2008, but the bailout, restructuring and loan was stipulated and negotiated by the Obama Administration.

As much as you would apparently like to believe it, Bush did not save GM.
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