Truth, Candidates both D, I and R, and More Truth

[truedelphi]

I just wanted to point out that I think it is a totally worthwhile activity to use DU to attempt to correct what appear to be lies about candidates, be they Republican, Democratic or Indie politicians.

Should DU remains free of such corrections, then those who step away from the keyboard long enough to engage in clever repartee with relatives, friends and neighbors, might find themselves at a loss when discussions about candidates come up. You cannot win a political argument if you are devoid of facts.

Case in point - the other night, Jay Leno had Ron Paul, R candidate for the Presidency, come to his show. Mr Leno then allowed Paul to engage in discussion for a good fifteen minutes.

One thing that surprised me was that Ron Paul admitted to total willingness for people in this nation to be participants in a gay marriage. He considers marriage to be personal business, and he thinks government(s) should keep away from marriage issues of any kind.

On this very board, I had heard repeatedly that Paul is anti-gay rights. Maybe so, but I couldn't find anything in his remarks on that particular night to justify such statements.

I have a fondness for the Hon. Paul, as he has stuck to his conviction that our nation should remain free from entanglements in foreign wars. He has held to this belief from back in the days of Iraq I, circa 1991.

However, if the record needed to be set straight against Mr Gingrich, a man I hold in contempt, I would do so as well. Not because I have a fondness for him, but because people need the truth to be effective both as voters and as people who are attempting to persuade/dissuade others. When a person doesn't have the truth at their disposal, they end up looking foolish.

BTW, one of the people who has given some very gracious "props" to Mr Paul is none other than Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. So if she can be gracious to Mr Paul, I see no reason why I cannot be.

[SunsetDreams]

1. What is up with all the Paul Repuke Praise threads?

I will give no praise to a Repuke period, their policies are disastrous for this country.

[MineralMan]

2. Is GD now the Ron Paul forum?

Praise for him seems to be a hot topic today. He's a freaking Republican, folks. He's not a progressive of any kind.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

4. Exactly. I have NEVER seen Ron Paul as anything but a Republican, and don't understand anyone who

thinks that he's somehow different.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

3. A long, long time ago, I took Republicans seriously. I bothered to listen to what they wanted.

Then I realized that they're full of sh*t. Pardon the French. They are ill-intentioned, they defend whatever is wrong and evil for those who have the least power, they are pretty much identical, one to the other, with very rare differences (for example, McCain).

Further, all Republicans, regardless of differences, have the same result upon our country: heading it at breakneck speed toward its demise.

After realizing that it was a complete waste of my time to bother to listen to these sociopaths, I took a new path: that of exposing them for the scum they are.

Anytime they are given the importance that comes from listening to them, they are placed in a role they do not deserve: that of worthy individuals. After watching the destruction they reaped upon my country, I will not do that.

However, the majority of Americans are ignorant of what is being and has been done to them. Americans don't read, don't educate themselves, spend too much time watching "reality" shows and garbage on TV, adore sensationalism, and are simply too busy trying to eek out a hand-to-mouth living to look around them and notice what is happening around them. In order for them to learn, something else is required, and that something does NOT involve giving Repukes the importance that comes of analyzing their words. THAT is why I believe the OCCUPY movement is the ONLY THING that has come along thus far that is actually causing people who ordinarily would know nothing, learn nothing, and read nothing, to notice and get involved.

[truedelphi]

5. We totally agree as far as the Occupy movement is concerned.

And I certainly understand your point of view regarding Republicans from an emotional stand point.

But from a logistical one - if you are ever going to engage in conversation with someone and you want to attempt to convince them of your viewpoint, logistically you'll do better if you can know the counter arguments to the talking points as they have had them presented.