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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:36 PM Dec 2013

No, Rand Paul, There's No Reason to Cut Unemployment Benefits

People aren't long-term unemployed because they prefer getting benefits. People are long-term unemployed because there still aren't enough jobs.
RAND GHAYAD

Rand Paul says he cares about the unemployed.

He says it's "our moral obligation as a society to take care of those who cannot take care of themselves." That "no one asserts that the problem [of long-term unemployment] is people not wanting to work." Rather "the problem is not in the minds of the unemployed, but in the minds of employers."

So why does he want to end unemployment benefits for people who have been out of work for 6 months or longer? Well, Paul cites my work on long-term unemployment as a justification—which surprised me, because it implies the opposite of what he says it does.

Now, we clearly have a long-term unemployment problem. The question is why. Paul says it's all about incentives. He thinks extending unemployment benefits does a "disservice" to the unemployed by encouraging them to stay unemployed for too long. And as a "big-hearted" member of a party that cares about the jobless, he wants to protect them from making such mistakes—by cutting their benefits, of course.

But Paul misreads my work to try to back up his argument. He says my paper, which shows that companies don't want to hire people who have been unemployed for more than 6 months, proves his point about long-term benefits (though he confuses it with another paper I authored with William Dickens). How does he figure this? Well, Paul thinks that "extending long-term benefits will only hurt the chances of the unemployed in the job market," because longer benefits will make them choose to stay unemployed longer—at which point firms won't hire them. But just because companies discriminate against the long-term unemployed doesn't mean long-term benefits are to blame. Paul might know that if he read beyond the first line of my paper's abstract.

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http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/12/no-rand-paul-theres-no-reason-to-cut-unemployment-benefits/282698/

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No, Rand Paul, There's No Reason to Cut Unemployment Benefits (Original Post) n2doc Dec 2013 OP
Rand is an idiot. One is still unemployed whether they're getting benefits or not. arcane1 Dec 2013 #1
What? daleanime Dec 2013 #2
Fuck Rand Paul. Rex Dec 2013 #3
wouldn't an intelligent person read this as a call for more jobs programs Johonny Dec 2013 #4
None of these "incentive" theories are true, DirkGently Dec 2013 #5
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
3. Fuck Rand Paul.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:44 PM
Dec 2013

Really don't know what else to say about that shithead, but fuck him and the high horse he rode in on!


Okay thought of something...why is he so fucking stupid!? Why does he get everything wrong or backwards?

What a supreme moran or Moran Supremo to some.

Johonny

(20,828 posts)
4. wouldn't an intelligent person read this as a call for more jobs programs
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:46 PM
Dec 2013

Private companies don't want to hire people 6 months out of work. Thus the best solution to get chronically unemployed due to the Bush depression is more job programs to bridge them back into the active work force. The Republican idiots were elected on the jobs, jobs, jobs platform. Something the have not even tried to do. No jobs programs, no unemployment = either death or crime. If the Republicans want a highly unstable society create a huge underclass of unemployed and desperate. That Republicans won't pass job programs and cut social programs pretty much shows once again they are terrible at homeland security.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
5. None of these "incentive" theories are true,
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:08 PM
Dec 2013

but that never seems to slow down conservatives or "Libertarians" a bit. Chris Hayes did a good job dismantling Paul's pseudo-logic just before Christmas, but apparently there is no amount of logic or reason that can overcome the "helping people is really hurting people" double-think.
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