Breaking - REVOLT: Moderate House Republicans working to line up votes on their own plan

[Tx4obama]

First on CNN: Moderate House Republicans working to line up votes on their own plan

Washington (CNN) - Moderate House Republicans who want to fund the government with no strings attached are working to line up votes against a House GOP plan to renew federal coffers while chipping away at Obamacare, multiple GOP sources involved in the effort tell CNN.

Rep. Charlie Dent, R-Pennsylvania, Rep. Peter King, R-New York, and others are feverishly making calls to stage what would effectively be a revolt.

They say they are hoping there are enough GOP members like them who are fed up with the tactics of the leadership that they can find enough votes to defeat the first procedural measure, known as the rule.

That would prevent the House GOP leadership from even bringing their plan up at all.

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Full post here: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/30/first-on-cnn-moderate-house-republicans-working-to-line-up-votes-on-their-own-plan/

[Pretzel_Warrior]

1. please let it be so. You guys need to cave so hard, it's felt in China

fucking shit bags.

[freshwest]

11. Don't hold back, tell us how you feel! LOL! Agreed, all.

[Wait Wut]

26. +1

[Pretzel_Warrior]

37. That's how I roll..... :)

[sheshe2]

64. +2~

[Nanjing to Seoul]

78. I'm in China. It will be felt here. Chinese media is dreading this.

[Warpy]

79. I think the whole world is. The Nikkei was down over 300 last night

The Dow was off only 129 today but tomorrow is likely to be a total bloodbath if the morons get their way. Overseas institutional investors are likely to flee.

ETA: Google all the articles on this nitwit: http://meadows.house.gov/#dialog Apparently he's the Moron in Chief and has been twisting arms behind the scenes for months. He's a one issue Rep and in a safe seat.

He's the main architect of the current round of economic terrorism.

[freshwest]

81. What aspect concerns them most? TIA.

[Nanjing to Seoul]

83. How this will affect exchange rates and how it will affect current business deals.

Their concerns are solely selfish and economic.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

2. But but but what about Speaker Boehner?

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

12. If he has any sense left, he should be encouraging them.

[freshwest]

17. Here ya go! Keep that economy running!

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Will that be enough?

[Pretzel_Warrior]

20. that is an awesome animated GIF

[Myrina]

21. He's probably down the street at a bar

... under a table with no clue WTF is going on up the street ...

[Liberalynn]

45. Bingo

[Sophiegirl]

74. He's a big fan...

....of Guapos in Shirlington. Seen him there entering through the back door to drown his sorrows with crappy margaritas.

[Chan790]

93. He used to go to Bullfeathers when I was an undergrad back in 98-02.

Given, that was before he was Speaker and nobody gave a hell who he was. It wasn't like he was the only Congressman there getting wasted 11am-2pm on a Wednesday.

[WCLinolVir]

60. If this guy was anything but repug, he'd be unfit for office.

The man is mental. Great gif.

[MFrohike]

86. That is awesome

That's easily the best thing I've seen on DU in months, if not years.

[Cooley Hurd]

3. Yes!!!!!

We have a bonafide war going on!

[Cali_Democrat]

9. I've got the beer

[G_j]

4. nice

bring it on!

[winter is coming]

5. And they didn't think to do this last week because...? n/t

[Tx4obama]

30. Apparently the moderates did not think this would go as far as it did, bolded part below...

VIDEO here: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/peter-king-wont-vote-for-another-bill-amending-obamacare-tired-of-ted-cruz-calling-the-shots/

Congressman Steve King (R-NY) told Fox News Sunday afternoon he would not vote for another resolution to delay or defund ObamaCare if it meant shutting the government down, and that he was infuriated with Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) for letting the fight get to a stage at which the government was threatened.

“From the start I thought it was wrong to pursue this policy of threatening to shut the government down over defunding ObamaCare,” King said. “I went along with the votes up until now because I know that John Boehner does not want to shut the government down, and I was assured this was a process to keep the government open. Now we’re down to the last 24 or 48 hours, and it seems we’re closer than ever to the government shutting down. I think Harry Reid should accept the proposal that was made. If he doesn’t I don’t want the government to shut down and I don’t see how I can vote again to any more amending to ObamaCare.”

“We have too many people in our party, it’s a minority, who are following Ted Cruz, and they are tying up the entire Republican party,” King said. “The overwhelming majority of House members would vote to keep the government open. I’m tired of having Ted Cruz call the shots for the House Republicans.”

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[winter is coming]

33. Wow. Talk about not understanding members of your own party. n/t

[upaloopa]

6. Put a spike in the tea party coffin right now

This could be the end of the tea party

[NightWatcher]

7. they better take back their party, else the brand wont be worth shit next election

[Tx4obama]

32. Their brand being worth shit is a GOOD thing for us. But the shutdown is a BAD thing.

[Sophiegirl]

75. OT...to NightWatcher

Congrats on the no-no for the last game of the season. I watched it. The first no-no I've seen live. It was a nail-bitter to the very end!!! Pure awesomeness.

Now back to our regularly scheduled program.

Sof

[NightWatcher]

76. the wild pitch to end the game was hilarious

The pitcher was on deck and you saw how they all went nuts after that last play. It was great

[Sophiegirl]

95. Yes it was! n/t

[Squinch]

8. How many do they need. Are there any R's other than themselves who were already

siding with the Democrats?

[SunSeeker]

68. Dunno, but only 17 Republicans need to vote with the Dems for a majority. nt

[Squinch]

77. Seems like they only got 6 of the 17

[joshcryer]

92. They need 18 Republicans and 200 Democrats to sign a discharge petition.

Otherwise the speaker will keep applying the unwritten Hastert rule.

[Warren DeMontague]

10. Because they know that if the crazies shut the government down, the GOP is fucking TOAST next Nov.

[Cali_Democrat]

13. But how can they bring it to the house floor if Boehner won't do it?

Don't they need to follow the so-called Hastert rule where they need a majority of Republicans to support it before it can be brought to the floor?

[Old Navy]

19. Hastert Rule is called a being a Stepford.

It's not even codified.

They can just dump the rule and ignore it. Sometimes they have to break their stupid robotic tradition.

[Cali_Democrat]

35. True. Boehner has broken the rule at least 3 times:

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/28/17134595-boehner-eschews-hastert-rule-for-third-time?lite

And of course the right wing conservatives were furious with him every time he did it.

[Old Navy]

14. Fuck the 'Baggers. It's past time to dump them as they are past their expiration date.

If moderate 'thugs wants to join us to stop this crap, then their jobs just might be saved. The 'baggers are too far gone and it's time to dump them like the rancid meat they are.

[surrealAmerican]

15. I wish them well.

I doubt that this could succeed, but wouldn't it be nice if it did?

[Robbins]

24. Hopefully

They do.Democrats and moderate republicans could pass a clean Bill.The senate bill If you will.

[Ohio Joe]

16. A spark of sanity among the teapuglicans?

I doubt that will be allowed.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

18. But can they also force a vote to actually pass the Senate CR?

otherwise, what then?

[Old Navy]

22. They should set up a discharge petition voting ONLY the clean CR, and deal with the mess later.

Just 23 of them is needed.

[Myrina]

23. Split the party! Yesssss!!

Permanent minority status for both factions!!

[factsarenotfair]

25. My personal opinion is that they need to leave the GOP and caucus with the Dems or they are wasting

their time. I wonder if any Dems are trying to get them to switch. Remember Jim Jeffords, who switched from R to I?

[freshwest]

27. A clean bill, ONLY. Any other CR is more gaming. Damned no-good rat bastids.

[Liberalynn]

47. Exactly no side deals just clean

[TheKentuckian]

28. Good. Well except for the frame job that aligns fucks like King as "moderate"

Is there not a single event or story that does not double as an excuse to frame the country rightward?

[merrily]

91. My thought as well. WTF?

If King is a moderate Republican, I am way, way to the left of Karl Marx.

[johnd83]

29. So the savior in this situation is.... Peter King?

[kaiserhog]

31. Discharge Petition

Is it a possibility? What would be the political fallout if that happened?

[santamargarita]

34. So there are Republicans with an IQ >0

[bunnies]

36. Uh Oh, Mr. Speaker!

[JDPriestly]

38. That is the article I have been hoping to see.

Sane Republican members of the House have to defeat the Hastert Rule and the unwillingness of the Republicans to bring a measure that does not delay or cut the ACA to the floor. Let's see what the vote is on that alternative measure. No tricks. Just fund what has been voted for already.

[handmade34]

39. would like to see this story

some place other than CNN... if they can really override the Speaker... they should have been doing it all along

[Tx4obama]

41. It is the TOP headline on the front page of HuffPo at the moment

Here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

[colsohlibgal]

40. Foaming At the Mouth Wingnuts VS Slightly Saner Right Wing Toadies.

Most all of them licking the boots of billionaires while they do all they can to make poor folks choose between shelter, heat, and cat food.

I wish each night for the day enough middle class people finally figure out they've been used. As John Fugelsang says, Fox News is rich people convincing middle class people to blame poor people.

[Iliyah]

54. And "Slightly" is exactly a good meaning when it comes to GOPers

in most part because they are C R A Z Y.

The whole lot of them have lost their souls.

[NightWatcher]

42. Breaking: House to vote again (8PMish), moderates refusing to vote on anything but clean CR

Wading through the twitterverse is a little muddled right now, but it looks like the moderate pukes are trying to force Boner to hold a vote on a clean CR. If they dont vote on a clean CR, they'll simply vote to reaffirm that they'll let the govt shutdown go on unless the dems delay ACA for a year

[Tx4obama]

43. Peter King: 25 Republicans May Vote Against Taking Up Spending Bill With Obamacare Provision

Peter King: 25 Republicans May Vote Against Taking Up Spending Bill With Obamacare Provision

WASHINGTON -- Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.) said Monday that he will buck his party leadership and vote against bringing up a government-funding bill that includes a one-year delay of Obamacare. And, he said, there may be as many as 25 other Republicans ready to do the same.

Nearly all Republican lawmakers flooding out of a closed-door meeting scoffed at the idea of passing a "clean" bill that simply funds the government ahead of Monday night's deadline. Most said the idea didn't even come up in the meeting as GOP leaders put forward their latest plan: to pass a bill that funds the government through mid-December but also delays by a year the individual mandate portion of the health care law. Their bill would also end federal health care subsidies for Hill staffers and lawmakers.

Democrats and President Barack Obama are insisting on a clean bill or no deal. King said that when he stood up in the meeting and urged his colleagues to vote for a clean funding bill, with no Obamacare provisions, it didn't go over well.

"Overwhelming silence," he told reporters.

But while most House Republicans aren't inclined to publicly admit they'd support a clean bill, King said as many as 25 of them may join him in voting against the rule to bring up the GOP bill at all. The reason, he said, is because they are worried about the political fallout from a government shutdown, and they don't want to be seen as having voted to cause it. If that block of Republicans holds, they, along with all the House Democrats opposed to bringing up the bill, could potentially sink it.

"They just feel it's a dead end," King said of those lawmakers, without naming names. "Shut down the government and then get blamed for it."

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Full article here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/30/peter-king-government-shutdown_n_4018806.html

[Tx4obama]

46. 175 GOP lawmakers willing to vote for a continuing resolution without defunding/delaying Obamacare

SEPTEMBER 30, 2013 AT 5:34 PM

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There are 233 Republicans in the House. Insiders estimate that three-quarters of them, or about 175 GOP lawmakers, are willing, and perhaps even eager, to vote for a continuing resolution that funds the government without pressing the Republican goal of defunding or delaying Obamacare.

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http://washingtonexaminer.com/how-30-house-republicans-are-forcing-the-obamacare-fight/article/2536611

[mountain grammy]

66. Good article. Let's hope he's right..

not all Republicans are crazy, are they?

[a2liberal]

67. This reveals their actual strategy

If you read between the lines, they're not saying that they will somehow force introduction of a clean resolution, just that if it doesn't happen they won't allow a revote on the Obamacare-delaying version since it already stands and would just be symbolic (like all their earlier repeal votes) and would put the blame clearly on them. They'd rather not have their vote be the last on the record (for publicity reasons) in the event of a shutdown.

[Lobo27]

44. Isn't the definition of insanity...

To do so something on constant basis and always expect a different result and yet always getting the same one...
How many times have the ass clowns tried to repeal ACA 45 times now?

[uppityperson]

50. Of course, that also goes with those who say "delay a yr, then they'll pass it."

Not that I'd ever call. DUer insane. To clarify.

[Tx4obama]

48. Looks like Cruz's plan to boot King out of office is backing firing on him!

King is going to take Cruz down big time !!!

Edited to add...

Cruz and others have been using the 'Senate Conservative Fund' to attack King and others

Rep King: Cruz Supporters Making 'Vile, Obscene' Phone Calls
http://sync.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3735326

Senate Conservatives Fund roils GOP
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/senate-conservatives-fund-roils-gop-97505.html

Conservatives Eat Their Own for Profit
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/brian-walsh/2013/09/12/the-senate-conservative-fund-and-the-heritage-foundation-profit-from-attacking-republicans

[Iliyah]

57. Cruz is a nasty piece of s***

he's trying to run the GOP caucus in both houses like a dictatorship. Daddy Cruz learned from Cuba and has passed it on to his son.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

61. This sick fuck needs to go. He's a dictator in the making.

[The Second Stone]

49. The Dem caucus should only participate if it is a straight no strings

bill. Closing down the government except for pensions, debts and article III judges (payments are constitutionally required) for a few days would knock some sense into Congress, particularly if their pay and airport travel were included.

[Tx4obama]

51. The Dem caucus WILL ONLY participate if it is a straight no strings attached clean CR

That is what the Democrats and President Obama have been saying now for many days.

[MirrorAshes]

52. This debacle might just win us back the house!

Please let it be so, let them form their circular firing squad and HAVE AT IT!

[AgingAmerican]

53. This is great news except for the

"while chipping away at Obamacare" part. Having said that, the really good news is that the GOP is falling apart at the seams over the issue. The wider they split, the sooner they will cave.

[Liberalynn]

59. This is one civil war I couldn't be happier to see take place.

Keep fighting each other Pukeheads. One party isn't big enough to hold all your egos and you know it. It's time you get a divorce from each other.

[Tx4obama]

56. Just 30 Out Of 233 House Republicans Actually Want The Shutdown Fight

Just 30 Out Of 233 House Republicans Actually Want The Shutdown Fight

With hours left to pass a continuing resolution before the government shuts down, an overwhelming majority of Republicans may in fact be open to a “clean” bill that does not attempt to delay or defund Obamacare. Byron York of the Washington Examiner reports that just 30 radical House Republicans are responsible for keeping the doomed Obamacare fight alive.

Some 20 or 30 are somewhat less committed and would be willing to compromise, except out of fear of retaliation from their party. The remaining 175, York estimates, would support a continuing resolution without any Obamacare provisions. “If Boehner offers them a “clean” continuing resolution, they will vote for it,” York writes.

Yet House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) has thus far refused to bring the bill to a floor vote. Besides a few exceptions, Boehner has clung to the so-called Hastert Rule, rarely calling a floor vote unless it can pass with 217 Republican votes.

The 30 radicals driving the GOP’s brinkmanship include Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) and Rep. Raul Labrador (R-TX). These lawmakers say they will do anything necessary to take a stand against Obamacare — even though shutting down the government will not actually delay the law’s implementation.

In the Senate, Sens. Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Mike Lee (R-UT) have alienated virtually all of their colleagues in their fruitless crusade against Obamacare. An aide to Lee proudly stated, “The minority of the minority is going to run things until our leadership gets some backbone.”

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Full article here: http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/09/30/2706201/30-republicans-shutdown/

[Pretzel_Warrior]

62. they are screwing America even at this very moment. continuing to add amendments

bullshit.

[Iliyah]

63. Just 175 of them and one asshole speaker who is probably boozing it up.

Ya always talk about Dems not having spines, s***, seems like GOPers are cry babies with no spines. Eff, they got machine guns pointing at the employees of the US government and are about to gun them down, why, because they are sick and worthless human beings.

Dems are ready for a clean CR vote along with some GOPers. . . .

Do it do it do it do it do it

[ProSense]

58. Breaking: Some Republicans decided it's time to cover their asses. n/t

[Iliyah]

65. They didn't revolt, goper's mandate bill passed

SHUTDOWN . . .

Assholes

[Liberalynn]

69. You said it

assholes.

[roamer65]

70. Let the knives come out.

I so want to see an absolute bloodbath in the Rethuglican ranks.

[MNBrewer]

71. In what alternate universe is Peter King a "Moderate Republican"?

[Gore1FL]

73. Maybe they are comparing him to Steve King. n/t

[DeSwiss]

72. K&R

''Trapped by the vicious and snarling teeth of its own making, the beast began to gnaw at its own right leg. Opting to rid itself of the offending member, rather than to live with the knowledge that the leg now controlled its every move. No matter what it wanted to do, it always went right. When it wanted to stay where it was, it went right. Even on those rare occasions that it wanted to go to the left, it still went right. It had lost all control. And now it was going even further right than it thought was possible. Life had become nothing but right turns.

No, chewing that sucker off was the only way......''

[toby jo]

84. A wise man.

I'd say righties should look to him, but dems have already overtaken the import.

[lostincalifornia]

80. Only if they bring it to the floor will it mean anything. What is a moderate republican?

[Nanjing to Seoul]

82. Wait. . .when did Peter King become a moderate? WTF is this????

[sarcasmo]

85. Kick for sanity.

[NBachers]

87. "feverishly making calls" Yes, the republicans are riding to the rescue of America!

Please, please o save us heroic Republicans!

"Help me, Representative Peter King! You're my only hope!"

Sorry, this main stream media shit fantasy makes me want to puke.

[kiranon]

88. It's not to late to change parties/go Independent and

throw the House back into Democratic control. It's the only way to restore sanity to the House. As Independents, these "moderate Republicans" would be the key players in the House. There is no other way to defeat the crazies in the Tea Party who want the government shut down.

[blkmusclmachine]

89. Somebody call the waaaahmbulance

[totodeinhere]

90. Moderate threat fizzles

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014607309

[regnaD kciN]

94. Moderate House Republicans…

You mean both of them?