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SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 10:09 PM Sep 2013

Impotent Rage

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In MY opinion,this is what is at the heart of so many of the incidents we have come to know as "tragedies".

Is it the impotent feelings of helplessness/hopelessness that may be driving so many people to crack under the pressure? The pressure may be self-imposed or could be triggered by an unjustified (in their eyes) job-loss, failed love life, loss of family, etc.

We do not cope well lately.

Too many people seem to be looking for vengeance. Does that make us much different from the people we love to fight against in another part of the globe?

Many unhappy people are too ready to lash out, and of course if they are armed, we all know what happens next.

America is seen to have the unique experience of gun-murder rates, whether one-on-one or on groups,

What is also unique about us is this:

Lose a job?..lose your health care for the family,,maybe lose your home...

Poor?..good luck, you're on your own

Want to go to college?..be ready to mortgage your whole life to rich bankers who may be deducting those inexcusable debts from your Social Security

Hungry?..Good luck, you loser..you should have saved more money, or maybe you are not worthy of food assistance..

WE HAVE NO SOCIAL SAFETY NET here that is automatic ...a given..something you have as a citizen.

When there is no "commons", society reverts to anti-social behaviors.

Any person (the day after an "incident&quot who has had a family member gunned down in a workplace/school/random massacre, would probably be in favor of paying any amount of extra tax required to put a safety net in place, so that even some person somewhere might feel less impotent rage..and the need to lash out at innocents..

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rustydog

(9,186 posts)
8. I think the simplistic answer is goober rage has reached mainstream America
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 11:12 PM
Sep 2013

We have allowed EVERYTHING to degrade in America. Education, entertainment, news reporting. A simplistic memory of what America was like in the "good old days" and a juvenile wish to return to those golden years today.
The Violence is simplified and glorified.

THE GODDAMN LARNIN' CHANNUL has Honey fucking booboo and other delicious reality shows that celebrate ignorance, avarice greed and violence: Brides of Beverly Hills. The Little Couple. Toddlers and Tiaras. Cheer Perfection. Sister Wives. Long Island medium (She knew I'd list her show, the ghosts told her) The GODDAMN LEARNING CHANNEL!

Violence in entertainment is generally shown as the first andONLY answer to any wrong or perceived wrong. You can go to jail for 50 years if you steal money from a bank or a millionaire. The millionaire will not go to jail for the same crime.
Thanks to the FUCKING REPUBLICAN PARTY, con-servatives and ALEC you can now say (In some states) " I was skeered of peein' my panties so I shot him in the face." Stand your fucking ground...thanks GOP, Gun Lobby and ALEC for legalizing murder in America for gutless cowards with a gun.

WWF, WWE, MMA, violent sports. Any argument in a bar or on the street will end up in gunfire before a fist is thrown. You can kill someone now and quote the Bush Doctrine as a defense for ambushing people in their own yard!

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
10. There's an element of narcissism as well.
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 11:33 PM
Sep 2013

And entitlement. Determined to take the glory they feel they've been denied. Maybe, I don't actually know, but I wish someone could figure these assholes out so we can *maybe* catch them before they murder.

I think I read he hadn't been in touch with his family for years. That's interesting. Isolation seems a pretty common element with these killers.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
11. Absolutely. We knew that already in the 70s but instead of enpowering more people we have
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 11:58 PM
Sep 2013

been steadily taking the power from the 99% and giving it to the 1%. And that is in almost every aspect of our lives. As I lobbied for progressive values in the past it was much easier to get anyone to listen than it is today. And I think most people feel that way.

Today I call a congressman's office and talk with a staffer who marks my call down as a pro or a con and lays it aside. The most the congressman will know is which side I was on. Even worse with an email. And the polls are ignored even when there are thousands signing them. If I feel this way with my experience imagine what those who do not even try to lobby are feeling. We are a pressure cooker waiting to explode and someday we will. I hope I am not around when that day comes.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
13. I don't pretend to know why but
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 12:58 AM
Sep 2013

Your post is the sort of thing that will engender discussion that is productive, instead of people just screaming at each other, and suchlike.

dickthegrouch

(3,174 posts)
14. I can inderstand all the emotions
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 08:10 PM
Sep 2013

But this does NOT explain why so many feel entitled to ruin other people's lives at the same time. Commit suicide if you must, but murder complete strangers in the process? That takes a special kind of entitlement.

Psychiatry is failing us big time if they can't devise a simple test for anyone who shouldn't wield a gun (including some cops and military).

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
15. Most people cannot afford mental health care
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 08:14 PM
Sep 2013

and the coverage in most HMO style coverage is pathetic..

and every person has a different presentation of their illness, so a "simple" test is not going to do it..

another issue is that millions of men are now with us, who have been "medicated" at young ages as their brains were developing.. who knows what long term effect those ADDHD drugs may have had on them?

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