I hate these obscene disgusting, vile white men

[Autumn]

in this repuke debate with the white hot heat of a thousands suns. Listening to them discussing birth control and their fucking objections to it is just disgusting They are the most despicable, disgusting bunch of losers that have ever existed.

[pipoman]

1. Relativity would be a key element of this

very relevant rant..

[pnwmom]

2. Has a single woman been allowed to ask a single question?

I missed the first half hour so I don't know.

[Autumn]

3. My Husband was remote control surfing and stopped on the pig debate

while they were "masturbating" over birth control and Planned Parenthood and their objections to both. They are a bunch of disgusting pigs. It infuriated me and the cheers from the crowed were obscene.

[spanone]

4. it's such a pathetic showing...who can out hate the other...none of these are christians imho

where's the love?

where's the compassion?

they are political christians

[Autumn]

7. They are republicans, there is no love

there is no compassion.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

8. it's called 'christofascism'

ideological control for profit and power; nothing to do with anything value creative.

[gong bath water]

33. Hmm...

Obama is funded by Wall Street and yet you drag Christianity into this...

[BlancheSplanchnik]

57. please refer to the post

I was replying to.

It was there that the mention of POLITICAL christianity appeared, to which I replied in context.

christofascism has nothing to do with Christianity.....have a look at the rise of the Third Reich. Political christianity, twisted and expedient to the goals of the fascist movement, was one of the pillars of thier political manipulation, just as it is being used by CONservative republicans in 21st century America.

[JoePhilly]

5. This white guy is embarassed by these idiots.

[gong bath water]

30. Mighty White of you!

[JoePhilly]

81. Na ... just mighty human of me.

The GOP has lost its humanity.

[MichiganVote]

6. Yup. They bad.

[DavidDvorkin]

9. So I guess it would be okay for me to say about Herman Cain

that I hate that obscene, disgusting, vile black man?

[divide_and_rule]

10. careful, now

they might 'disappear' you for that heresy....

[lunatica]

11. If he's for everything they are, yes.

But right now, if you look, you'll notice there are only white men candidates left in these debates.

Lots of people hate white men as they're the historic symbol of oppression in this country.

[Nye Bevan]

12. Those "people who hate white men" are racists.

Let's try to judge people by the content of their character, not the color of their skin. Who's a better person, Joe Biden or Condoleeza Rice?

[DavidDvorkin]

13. Exactly.

[Autumn]

15. Did you see Condoleeza Rice or Joe Biden up there on that stage

discussing the removal of basic rights for women? No you saw a nasty group of white, entitled men , a bunch of disgusting, vile white republican men, they have no character. This old white woman absolutely loathes those nasty vile white men. You want to call me racist? Go for it.They are an obscenity to humanity. Do you think this is the first time in history white men have decided to oppress women? It's not.

[DavidDvorkin]

16. Only white men have oppressed women?

[Autumn]

17. They are the ones, at this time, up on that stage

saying women should not have the right to make informed decisions about their reproductive rights, have access to birth control and safe, legal abortions . That group of vile nasty white men want women to go back to "the good old days" when women were lesser human beings. I stand by what I said

"I hate these obscene disgusting, vile white men
in this repuke debate with the white hot heat of a thousands suns."

IMO it is obscene for that group of white men, and that's what was standing up on that stage , all white men, to feel they have that right. I'm not going where you seem to want to go, I never stated "Only white men have oppressed women" If they had been black grown yellow or green I would have said the same thing about any one who wants to do that. Had they been a group of women I would have said the same thing. As it stands they are a nasty group of white, entitled republican men and they are disgusting.

If my calling them what they are offends you there is an alert button in the bottom left hand corner. Feel free to use it.

[gong bath water]

34. Condi, Hillary, Obama, Eric Holder, that Sanchez dude

All people of color doing the same nefarious things but it's softer and kinder because they either have vaginas or melanin!

[Autumn]

68. Tell me. Did you see Condi, Hillary, Obama, Eric Holder, that Sanchez dude

up there on that stage discussing doing away with some very important womens rights? No, they weren't there.

[noiretextatique]

36. sorry, but i too despise the rich, powerful, white men who are trying to destroy this country

and roll back the rights of women. fuck them all to hell!!! and if there are black, powerful people who are in their camp: the hell with them too.

[Nye Bevan]

38. So you're someone who "hates those who are trying to destroy this country",

as opposed to someone who "hates white men".

I think we can all agree with that.

[noiretextatique]

39. but, most of them ARE white men

no need to be coy about that reality.

[Nye Bevan]

40. OK, so say "I hate those who are trying to destroy our country, most of whom are white men".

Why give a pass to Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, Clarence Thomas and Herman Cain?

[noiretextatique]

44. as you know, this discussion is about a group of white, male legislators

so, i don't give palin, or cain or rice "a pass." however, it is silly to pretend that the white male legislators the OP mentioned aren't using their status as white and male to assert their power...in this case, their power over women. does that mean all white men are evil misogynistic assholes? of course not. does it mean this particular group of white men are evil misogynistic assholes? YES.

[Nye Bevan]

46. This subthread concerns the "Lots of people hate white men" comment in post 11 (nt)

[noiretextatique]

51. thanks for the clarification eom

[we can do it]

76. +100

[siligut]

19. That is exactly it

Lots of people hate white men as they're the historic symbol of oppression in this country

Of course it isn't all white men, it is the ones in power and doing every despicable thing they can to stay that way. The KKK, the Neo-Nazis, the White Supremacists, those guys.

[Autumn]

14. Did you see a black man or a woman or any minority up there on that stage?

and yeah Herman Cain is a obscene, disgusting, vile black man. If I offended your sensibilities, this old white woman really doesn't care. The fact is that it was a group of obscene, disgusting, vile white men up there being offended and planning on their removal of women's rights. Fuck them.

[gong bath water]

31. What are "women's rights?"

We as women are the Holy Vessels of Energy and that doesn't mean we are allowed to do whatever we wish with said vessel. Keep those gams closed and break out the vibrator if you wanna really control yourself!

[noiretextatique]

41. yes...we can do whatever we wish with said vessel

including having sex with whomever we choose, whenever we choose. "women's rights" are HUMAN rights

[Arugula Latte]

42. g.b.w. is no longer with us.

[noiretextatique]

45. good riddance

[we can do it]

78. I Can Damn Well Do Whatever I Want To Do with My Body and with Whomever I Please

no matter what any bigoted disgusting man says.

If you want to call yourself a vessel go ahead, don't call me one.

[noiretextatique]

47. as a black person, i don't have a problem with your comment

cain is as vile and obscene and disgusting as santorum or any other white, male fascist.

[Hippo_Tron]

64. Institutionalized racism...

White people have never been institutionally discriminated against in this country. Therefore saying derogatory things about white people should not be considered the same as saying derogatory things about black people. However, in an ideal world we wouldn't say derogatory things about anybody.

[Union Scribe]

85. If you started a thread with that title

and without the context of this thread*, you'd be gone by the time you hit refresh on the page.


(*specifically, the people pretending they'd be okay with someone actually posting that)

[DavidDvorkin]

86. Yep.

[dynasaw]

18. Patriarchy at work my dears

This is what it looks like: uber rich, elderly males who wield power and who make the rules.

[time for me to fly]

20. Yawn...

Reading people spewing hate on here is pretty disgusting, too....

[Autumn]

21. Now that's funny. I would be tombstoned if I said I loved those

obscene disgusting, vile white men in this repuke debate. Thank you for giving me my laugh of the day
Edited to add if you are looking for love for these obscene disgusting, vile white men in this repuke debate try freeper ville. I'm sure they have enough love for them to make you feel better about my rant.

[time for me to fly]

22. No thanks. I just don't think in bipolar terms about people.

It's not hate or love but indifference. And I am also not bamboozled into thinking that 2012 politics is really about two sides. I see one side and it's against US.

[Son of Gob]

26. Do you ever do anything productive at the library?

[gong bath water]

29. Do you ever do anything productive wherever you are?

Or just harass people pointing out hypocrisy and the same sort of negative vibrations that they claim to denounce?

[Son of Gob]

79. You made it 12 posts this time

Good for you! See ya tomorrow!

[MadrasT]

23. Wow 35 minutes and 10 posts

Is that a speed record for troll removal?

[Autumn]

27. She is a persistant little bug. All that time in the library you would

think she would try to lean something.

[lunatica]

28. So why are you on here?

[MellowDem]

24. Careful...

Hate will only bring you closer to their level. Also, the fact that they are white is kind of irrelevant to the issue of birth control and comes across as a bigoted comment.

I agree that their presumptions and privilege in discussing the issue are pretty disgusting, but your comment seems more like something they would say about a group.

[Autumn]

25. How is the truth a bigoted comment?

The puke field is a group of entitled, vile, disgusting white men. They hate everything.They want to do away with access to birth control and women's low cost health care and safe, legal abortions. Yeah, I'm going to hate them, that makes me a better person because what they want is dangerous, they are not just a fluke, this is what the puke party has become. They are evil and I see nothing wrong with hating evil.

[Autumn]

63. In November I will have the privilege and honor of voting for Obama, Again,

and he will mop the floor with these pukes that are running against him. Sorry for your bad luck.

[noiretextatique]

35. it is not a bigoted comment: it is the truth

we are watching the desperate attempt at a power grab by the very same white, male hegemony that has been in power in the country since its inception. pointing out that fact is not bigotry: it is truth.

[randome]

37. No need to go all 'thesaurian' on us.

I think 'vile' sums it up nicely.

[mick063]

43. How is this different than Southern bashing?

Where are the droves of pissed off responders in this one?

Regardless, I have a good response: All men bashers give up Rock and Roll.


Trying to understand the DU culture here. Tell me if i got it right.

Old white men = ok to bash.
Old Southern white men = not ok to bash.

[randome]

48. Every group is worthy of mockery.

Especially when one that is not representative of America's diversity tries to impose its will on everyone.

DU does not have a single culture, by the way. Different people with different viewpoints. It's all good if we have the willingness to be objective.

[Chorophyll]

49. Because the OP is not a "men-basher."

She is justifiably pissed off that a panel called to discuss the evils of coverage for birth control contains not a single person who ever needed access to it.

I don't recall them allowing a man with an opposing viewpoint to speak either.

And I do believe that race is relevant to this conversation, as is class. If you've got enough cash, you don't need your insurance company to pay for your birth control, do you.

[Autumn]

50. The South is part of our Country

these white entitled repuke men are barely human. They are not just Old white men, they are vile dangerous old white men . And they deserve to be bashed, constantly.

You can pry my rock and roll, womens access to birth control and a womens right to chose to have an abortion.. from my cold dead hands.

[mick063]

52. Following the logic path.

If :
the South is part of the country

and:
old white men are not part of the country

then:
there cannot be old white men in the South.

We know through careful observation that this is not the case.

Sorry, your theory fails the logic path.

[Autumn]

54. Well you go on ahead and be offended about repuke bashing

I'm going to keep on doing it. Go right on ahead and pretend my post was bashing old white men if it makes you feel better. You just have a good day.

[randome]

55. Where does 'logic' come into this?

People's emotions are high because of the very real threat being posed by a small group of legislators.

Not everything needs to be parsed to its utmost in the name of 'logic'.

[flexnor]

53. is it universally wrong to hate on the basis of race/gender, or

are there exceptions when it is OK?

you say 'I hate these obscene disgusting, vile white men'

who makes that rule - whoever has power? (because that's the way it always is)

that the precident you want to set?

if you want to eliminate bigotry and racism, then lead by example. because if all you want to do is replace someone else's racism and bigotry with your own, rest assured people will see through it

[Autumn]

58. No it isn't wrong. when it is repuke legislators and politicians

attacking womens rights hating them is a necessity and and an honor. I delight in my hated and disgust for these repuke candidates.

This from your post to me.
you say 'I hate these obscene disgusting, vile white men'

Well you left out a very important part of what I said .

"I hate these obscene disgusting, vile white men in this repuke debate" Did you see that? "vile white men in this repuke debate"

Now if you are offended by my hatred for those bastards please use the alert button on the bottom left hand corner.

Yes I do want to set a precedent, I want EVERYONE on the face of this earth to hate those obscene disgusting, vile white men in this repuke debate.
Sounds like a good goal to me.

[cleanhippie]

56. Would it be ok to say "I hate these obscene disgusting, vile BLACK men"?

And while they ARE vile, obscene, and disgusting, the color of their skin has nothing to do with it, and is a racist comment.

[flexnor]

59. jury voted 1-5 to keep this thread

that's one heck of a statement about this site, wonder what the vote would have been if you title had been used instead?

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this post at Wed Feb 22, 2012, 09:44 PM, and voted 1-5 to keep it.

there is no such thing as 'reverse racism' - there is only racism, period

[cleanhippie]

60. Yep, I alerted and got that reply too. What. The. Fuck.

How far we seem to have fallen...

[Autumn]

61. Gee I hope someone will post the results from that

The statement it says is that on a Democratic website, puke bashing is looked on with favor. God I love this place.

[cleanhippie]

62. Your blatant bigotry, and refusal to address it is disgusting.

The color of their skin has no bearing whatsoever on their being vile, obscene and disgusting. The fact that you made that an issue, and then refuse to see the error of your way, reveals all anyone needs to know about your character. And it has nothing to do with your skin color, or your gender.

[Autumn]

65. Had there been one black man or one woman up there,

yes even Herman. My post would have read differently. I call it as I see it. It was a group of vile disgusting white men. Sorry about your outrage but it doesn't match my outrage or hatred for them.

[cleanhippie]

67. Thank you for supporting my argument.

wow. just wow.

[flexnor]

69. there WAS a black man, but he was dropped for harrassing women

and those settlements were made long before he ran

he was dropped just as john edwards would have been (for treating his own wife so badly), had he been exposed before he dropped out

[noiretextatique]

71. they are WHITE MEN

there is nothing inherently wrong in saying what they are: white men. and no...she is not talking about ALL white men, just the vile, disgusting, obscene white, male legislators who are trying to trample on women's health care.

[noiretextatique]

73. i disagree...their white and male privilege

has everything to do with their blatant disregard for women, and our healthcare choices. the fact that they are in a position of power to make decisions about women's healthcare options has everything to do with the white, male hegemony in our political system. things are changing, but white men still hold the majority of elected positions in this country. it is not racist to point that out either.

[Hippo_Tron]

66. Again, institutionalized racism...

Making derogatory comments about white people IS NOT the equivalent of making derogatory comments about black people. White people were not kept as slaves and then legally relegated to second class citizenship after they were freed. Still it's better not to make derogatory comments about anybody, IMO.

[flexnor]

70. there were lots of white people who fought against slavery from day one

and as many people died (on both sides, for and against) in a war to end it, as own slaves

if it took too long, it's because the rich people who wanted slavery had more power than the middle class whites who were against it (I know, hard to imagine a USA where power = money)

but, because there WERE so many whites who opposed it, it DID end, at a considerable cost of blood of people who never supported slavery

[noiretextatique]

72. if they are vile and obscene: what would be the problem?

stating the truth is not racist.

[Major Hogwash]

74. I was talking to a friend of mine the other day about their ridiculous debate.

And she said the same thing. That she couldn't believe what a huge group of losers they are. She said it was the worst group the GOP has ever had to pick from. They have engaged in a race to the bottom faster than even she could imagine.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

75. Kudos to the OP and the Jury for allowing this thread.

As a woman in this country I feel more violated and at risk on a societal level
than I have in my entire life. The image in my mind of the oppressor is an
older, white, male in a business suit with an agenda I am still trying to fully
understand. That image can be substituted by an entire host of individuals with
varying skin color, religious affiliations and unfortunately, members of my own sex.

The rant is based on very real threats to all women and I fully appreciate where the
OP is coming from.

[Autumn]

77. They are dangerous. Take it from this old lady

where they want to take you young women back to is a scary place. You have got to watch these bastards like a hawk and fight them with everything you have. Make no mistake, they are deadly.

[noiretextatique]

80. they are dangerous...and so is their vision of our country

no one wants to live in "the handmaiden's tale" country they are trying to create. i am glad you posted this thread, and called them exactly what they are.

[Autumn]

82. Thank you. What they want for young

women is to have them trapped by circumstances or by mistakes. They want to remove choice and safety. If their women need an abortion they will take them to where they can get a safe one, for others it's knitting needles and catheter tubes and the risk of infection, sterility or death. It is outrageous.

[noiretextatique]

83. and they are white men

I can't believe how much flack you got for stating the obvious. and i wrote in another post, white, male political hegemony has been the reality in this country since its inception, and it's not at all racist to point that out. and it is STILL true today. most of the people who hold elected offices in this country are still white men. and yes...their privilege as white and male does affect the way they think. clearly, the white men you were talking about think their privilege allows them to make healthcare choices for women. it is beyond outrageous, and it's long past time that we call this spade at spade. white men on the right are my enemy, they are enemies to all americans. and so are rw women, rw black people, and rw latinos and rw asians. however, it's rw white men who have to power to force my niece to be probed before getting an abortion. screw everyone who thinks phoney "political correctness: is more important than that harsh truth.

[noiretextatique]

83. and they are white men

I can't believe how much flack you got for stating the obvious. and i wrote in another post, white, male political hegemony has been the reality in this country since its inception, and it's not at all racist to point that out. and it is STILL true today. most of the people who hold elected offices in this country are still white men. and yes...their privilege as white and male does affect the way they think. clearly, the white men you were talking about think their privilege allows them to make healthcare choices for women. it is beyond outrageous, and it's long past time that we call this spade at spade. white men on the right are my enemy, they are enemies to all americans. and so are rw women, rw black people, and rw latinos and rw asians. however, it's rw white men who have to power to force my niece to be probed before getting an abortion. screw everyone who thinks phoney "political correctness: is more important than that harsh truth.